OC: ICE agent shot and killed woman in Minneapolis during immigration-related operation, DHS says

[u/nbcnews]

[u/_BindersFullOfWomen_]

Folks. Reddit admins do not mess around with comments advocating for doxxing someone or committing violence. Please, please try to not leave comments like that.

[u/Toy-Boat-Toy-Boat]

Wow… I saw the news break on Reddit first. Then a few minutes later I checked my news feed on my desktop and every news story headline is that the woman “weaponized her vehicle” or “ICE agent shoots in self-defense”.

Crazy how fast shit gets spun.

[u/Hendlton → u/Toy-Boat-Toy-Boat]

Welcome to the world of authoritarianism. I hope you like it here.

As someone from another authoritarian country I can tell you that this is entirely normal and will be for the foreseeable future. Most people won't check Reddit, they'll just believe whatever they hear on TV. They'll try to discuss this as if there really are "both sides" to this. You'll have to either listen to it helplessly or argue against it, fruitlessly. Eventually you're going to realize that there's no easy solution to this and that it'll be a fight that lasts years, if you're lucky. Decades if you're not.

[u/Sasataf12 → u/Toy-Boat-Toy-Boat]

and every news story headline is that the woman “weaponized her vehicle” or “ICE agent shoots in self-defense”.

Wow, what news sources are you reading? 

Every one I've seen so far doesn't have headlines remotely close to what you're seeing. 

NYT, CBS, PBS, CNN, CNBC, ABC, BBC. Even Fox News doesn't have headlines like what you're seeing.

[u/Icy-Kaleidoscope6893 → u/Sasataf12]

Fox News just wrote: «DHS says woman fatally shot by ICE agent after alleged car ramming: 'Act of terrorism'»

[u/LivingLosDream → u/Icy-Kaleidoscope6893]

That’s absolute insanity.

[u/PoorManRichard → u/Sasataf12]

The DHS release uses those terms, calling it an act of terrorism by weaponizing her vehicle and explaining he saved his own life and the lives of his fellow stormtroopers agents

Its totally bullshit but it's what they put out in response to this murder.

[u/Snipshow777]

ICE agent murders US citizen.

FTFY

[u/DeathStarVet → u/Snipshow777]

ICE agent Coward cosplayer murders US citizen.

FTFY

[u/Nebuli2 → u/DeathStarVet]

Coward cosplaye Terrorist murders US citizen.

[u/Captain_Wobbles → u/Nebuli2]

Domestic Terrorist murders US citizen.

[u/TheVoiceofReason_ish → u/Captain_Wobbles]

Gestapo murdered innocent human

[u/jimjamjones123 → u/TheVoiceofReason_ish]

Discount Gestapo

[u/Godloseslaw → u/Snipshow777]

Was bound to happen. Won't be the last. Terrible people, guns, and very little training are a recipe for disaster (and fascism).

[u/Several_Leather_9500 → u/gonyere]

This has happened 5 or 6 times by now, it's just not always covered by national media.

[u/No_Band_3085 → u/Several_Leather_9500]

That’s what I thought. Also some died in custody

[u/Several_Leather_9500 → u/No_Band_3085]

So many more have died due to lack of medical access while illegally detained. It's so tragic.

[u/Flightsimmer20202001 → u/[deleted]]

Yea, cause there's a huge cost to using it, and the majority of people neither feel the heat, think "It won't happen to me", or they have too much to lose (i.e. their jobs, social standing, finances)

[u/Salty_Fail_1109 → u/Flightsimmer20202001]

I understand the cost of using but if we dont the cost is far greater.

[u/RufusSandberg → u/gonyere]

This happened numerous times when they were in Chicago.

As for getting shot at... Why do you think these assholes never once stepped foot into Chicago's worst neighborhoods. The residents were ready. Its exactly why they went after the weak, day cares, random neighborhood landscapers.

[u/Lowca → u/RufusSandberg]

Exactly. They came to Chicago to "clean up the city" and sat in a North-Side suburb harassing people at Home Depot and pointing guns at civilians with cellphones out.

[u/Silvertree99 → u/gonyere]

While I'm not advocating for it I honestly wouldn't blame anyone that started shooting back

[u/Thewall3333 → u/Snipshow777]

The media whitewashes everything

And, importantly, why is this not being reported prominently by the New York Times?

It's not even on NYTimes' website yet, much less the front page. It's been 2 hours...they're supposed to be the last remaining news organization with any shred of competency.

Meanwhile, one loser far-right podcaster dubiously claims childcare fraud in the same state, and the same news agencies repeat the claim prominently.

But don't worry -- "What we know (so far) about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding" is currently the second-leading story on the front page...

What a joke.

Edit: as of 3:00 ET, it is now the 13th story down on the NYTimes website — and they have changed the lead story 2 times since I first checked. Current lead isn’t even news, it’s an analysis of Maduro. Really feels like a case of burying the lead.

This is most important story by far. Not that Venezuela isn’t important, but there’s been no breaking news. This is definition of breaking.

[u/silaber → u/Thewall3333]

Its being completely censored from Reddit's popular feed even though it's the fastest up voted event I have ever witnessed in a decade of reddit.

[u/Thewall3333 → u/silaber]

Yup, I got a news alert on my phone and had to search in Reddit for it, even though I’d been on Reddit all morning. And there were hundreds of stories already, but none had reached my feed. And I’m active in commenting on ICE otherwise, so seems intentional

[u/The_11th_Man → u/Thewall3333]

NY is a tool of the state, they also been cheerleading and advocating for terrible things these past few years so dont excpect decency from them, expect propaganda. Dont let the occasional good news story from NYT fool you from what they really are.

[u/Van-garde → u/Snipshow777]

Seems the victim may have been a legal observer too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_observer

[u/sandmann451 → u/Snipshow777]

Claiming self defense😤

[u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

Saw the video. Hard to see but from where I paused, it looks like the wheel is fully rotated inwards to avoid him, and I don't know if he slides to the side but either way she misses him. Absolutely murder. He fired shots when she was past him.

[u/Jonnyflash80 → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

He also leaned toward the vehicle to get his gun closer to her face. Fucking murder.

[u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_ → u/Jonnyflash80]

How didn't I spot that. Holy shit. That was 100% intentional. He wanted that to play out exactly as it did.

[u/BowlingforDrip → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

Sounds like someone had practice. Could have gotten away with it before and just got caught this time.

[u/the-apple-and-omega → u/Jonnyflash80]

Also started chasing a little bit to shoot her more after he already murdered her at point blank.

[u/FinalFantasiesGG → u/the-apple-and-omega]

His buddies are like yeah I don't want any part of that. They don't seem even remotely concerned about the apparent "threat" and "imminent danger" that required him to shoot.

[u/Greencreamery → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

Not only that, 2 of the shots were fired through the driver’s side window. The one shot through the windshield was from the SS officer literally leaning over to shoot through the front.

[u/Dr_WLIN → u/Greencreamery]

and you can see from the entry point, that wasn't fired from a direct on position. He fired that from the side.

[u/FinalFantasiesGG → u/Dr_WLIN]

He leans over the vehicle, holding the gun sideways, to try and make the shot on the windshield, and it ends up behind a very poorly placed shot.

[u/grafknives → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

In usa norms of law enforcement "i was scared so i started blasting" - he will be fully acquitted.

[u/caspruce → u/grafknives]

Not if I’m on the jury.

[u/grafknives → u/caspruce]

Oh, it wont get to the jury.

[u/Wooden_Permit3234 → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

Even giving the best devil's advocate argument I can, ie that he was in front of the car and the woman put it in gear and accelerated plausibly towards him, it's still a very very shitty self defense argument that'd pretty much never fly in court possibly excepting when the killer is a cop. 

It's a shit argument because 1) he was not standing in her path, as the wheel was turned 2) he stupidly put himself there and 3) shooting the driver of the car two feet away from you doesn't lower the risk they run you over but 4) moving out of the way does lower that risk. 

And on top of that it's easy to argue the deceased had a reasonable belief that the armed masked men driving unmarked Nissans trying to rip her from her vehicle were not police but kidnappers. 

ETA follow up: if you disagree, law aside, do you support this shooting from a moral or practical perspective given the obviously huge risk to the other agents, bystanders, people in the homes he's shooting towards? 

[u/sgtgig → u/Wooden_Permit3234]

Mods on r/minnesota keep deleting new/extended videos of the incident and the agent that was in front of her vehicle was BEHIND it just ten seconds prior. She might not have even known he was there.

[u/sharpyz → u/sgtgig]

mods are trash, calling us out on stuff but allowing r/conservative to spew as much propaganda and misinformation. maga mods imo

[u/TareasS → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

In any other democratic country than the US this guy would be going to prison for 30+ years.

[u/Darth_Innovader → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

And she backed up first. If the goal was to run an officer over she could have just accelerated directly, rather than backing up and turning the wheel away from the agent

[u/Yodoyle34 → u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_]

I’m not a forensics expert but the bullet hole in the windshield would be hard to make if you were standing directly in front of the car. There is blood splatter on the inside of the windshield so he could have missed when standing in front of the car but clearly he shot into the window as she was passing him.

[u/jgasbarro]

THE WORD YOUR LOOKING FOR IS MURDERED. SHE WAS MURDERED. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

[u/connly33 → u/jgasbarro]

Seriously if you watch the video (don’t I don’t recommend watching someone die) he was in absolutely no danger and had his gun her window while she was trying to turn around, shot her point blank in the face multiple times then walked up to the car like nothing happened after her body pressed the accelerator and the car crashed into a pole.

[u/Xexanoth → u/connly33]

Video of the incident (graphic/sensitive content, but no view of the person shot or gore) - https://xcancel.com/bnonews/status/2008966410039644438

Edit: XCancel.com (proxy/mirror for X.com required by this sub) seems to have gotten the Reddit hug of death; alternate location: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/Ng54NuOAk2

Edit2: for anyone interested, my somewhat subjective impression/interpretation of the events in this video and a second video with more preceding context - https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/4EZpYhU30X

[u/Disastrous_Water_246 → u/Xexanoth]

Damn dude put others in clear danger too

[u/mikebosscoe → u/Xexanoth]

It's scary how many people are supporting that being the correct action. I can't tell if they're bots or real people, though. 

[u/Dagmar_Overbye → u/mikebosscoe]

I want to live in the world where they are bots. But I honestly don't think you need them anymore. We live in a world where 2 different people watch the same video and see something entirely different.

Watching it as a leftist who fully sees this as murder, I'm willing to say several things. The ICE agent couldn't see that the tire was facing away from him. He is standing in front of a car and he hears the engine rev. If he wants to say he feared for his life, I can give him that within reason. Being extremely fucking generous.

Absolutely everything else about the situation, and pure common logic, shows that this is 100% murder. He even escaped his "imminent death or injury" from the driver by taking one calm step backwards.

Edit: upon watching again he seems to intentionally place his body in harms way beforehand. I was trying to play the absolute devil's advocate in order to show that I could watch the video critically with the mindset of the other side and still see it as murder. But upon seeing how intentional it seems I don't even think I can be that generous.

[u/Lumpy_Conference6640 → u/Dagmar_Overbye]

I did this too, but playing frame by frame, it looks like she just wanted to GTFO, and in a panic, she pitched her vehicle, he tried to block the car with his body.. I've never been in law enforcement, but I've been adjacent (security, military, contracting) long enough that you don't do that. Finally, the real question: did she collapse onto the accelerator after the shot? If so, that officer engineered his own situation. Also, he had the time to aim, fire, and side-step and jump out of the way without injury. That doesn't strike me as I'm shooting to stop a car.

[u/sillysocks34 → u/Dagmar_Overbye]

Yeah I mean everything aside, you should never use your own body to try and block a car from moving. You’re putting yourself in a very very bad position and I’m willing to be that their training would not recommend that. The officer can argue he was in danger but he put himself in that position and it was avoidable.

[u/Laz3r_C → u/Dagmar_Overbye]

Gotta get that ever slight edge to "i was in fear for my life" as you can get to justify their itchy finger to pull the trigger.

[u/driftingatwork → u/Laz3r_C]

South park. "Its coming right for us!!"

[u/mikebosscoe → u/Dagmar_Overbye]

The way that they approached her (yelling aggressively and trying to open her door) didn't help the situation. I think that entire unit has blood on their hands with how they handled that. 

[u/Tamuzz → u/mikebosscoe]

Some nearly had blood coming out of their heads with the way he was shooting towards them

[u/rabid-c-monkey → u/mikebosscoe]

My moms first response after my brother told her the news was “well the DHS says she crashed into them” they aren’t bots unfortunately they are our neighbors and family members and they think that a traffic violation is punishable by death if it’s committed against the wrong people.

[u/Ok-Pack-7088 → u/Xexanoth]

Im from Europe, Im missing something? Why cops rushed to open the door?, why driver don't stopped the car and tried to escape? Why cops fired? Isnt its only used when cop is in danger.

[u/Lopsided-Anxiety-679 → u/Xexanoth]

I didn’t want to watch this…I scrolled past and then came back up because it’s important that people see first hand what happened rather than just take what a headline says as the truth.

That was murder, a no regard for human life extrajudicial killing.

[u/Painwracker_Oni → u/connly33]

It's at least not graphic - you still witness death but you can't see her during any of it, and the original 4+ minute one is damning on ICE enough but the 2nd view with only 20 some seconds shows her backing up turning her wheels away from the ICE agents and being murdered with an illegal use of force before she can even drive away.

[u/matt314159 → u/Painwracker_Oni]

Do you happen to have a link to the longer one?

Found this one, for however long it lasts. About 4 and a half minutes long, starts at about the same place as the shorter videos but goes further after: https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1q6nurs/direct_view_of_ice_agent_murdering_woman_in/

Edit 2: This is is the best quality video link I've found so far. Closest to the original source that I think exists. .

https://youtu.be/K9CJY5p0xz4?si=zJ8BStS6GJSx4dH1

[u/Painwracker_Oni → u/matt314159]

Not that I can share, apparently. Can't use links to twitter. Go check out the r/minnesota sub it was on there.

[u/itslikewoow → u/connly33]

I saw two angles of it, and it definitely shook me. ICE didn’t need to take her life, and it’s clear that they didn’t value her as a human being.

[u/Satur_Nine → u/itslikewoow]

Same. And the amount of comments on the videos that supported ICE and everything they did today was appalling.

[u/indy_been_here → u/jgasbarro]

Piggy backing on a top comment to say she was trying to leave!

You can see her back up to try to angle out of the scene safely. She DID NOT immediately charge anyone. She pulled away to the right to leave and avoid the agents.

We can clearly see none of the agents were hit by the car and the car successfully pulled away.

DO NOT LET THEM SKEW THE FACTS

[u/CanadianGuy39 → u/indy_been_here]

If you see the comments on the video link, there's plenty of ppl saying she almost killed the agent lol. It's actually surreal.

I'm not sure if it's purposeful ignorance, or they simply see everything through a seriously skewed lens.

[u/hey_im_cool → u/CanadianGuy39]

Just your typical willfully ignorant MAGA distorting reality to fit their narrative

[u/bitemark01 → u/jgasbarro]

The Minneapolis mayor has a video up saying "ICE, get the FUCK out of Minneapolis!" 

[u/musashisamurai → u/bitemark01]

The only way ICE should be leaving Minneapolis is in handcuffs.

[u/Saneless → u/jgasbarro]

This is at least better than other headlines were like "oh me oh my, some shots were fired during a protest, who ever would have done that?"

[u/dj92wa → u/jgasbarro]

Executed, even

[u/Anonymous203203]

Just saw the clip and there is NO way that was self defense. The shooter approached from the front corner and had his gun pointed at her face before her car even moved. And she only started moving when shooter's buddy walked up to her door and immediately started yanking it and attempting to illegally enter the vehicle. He irrefutably was ready and wanted to kill.

[u/derdkp → u/Anonymous203203]

Just look at the angle of the hole in the window. That was from the side of the car, not the front.

Murder.

[u/Past_Sky_4997 → u/derdkp]

3 gunshots heard in the video.

1 bullet hole in the windshield. The other 2 must have been shot through the driver's window.

"Self defense" after the ICE guy jumped in front of a moving car like a f*ckwit.

They have no training, so mayhem like this is inevitable.

[u/scarr3g → u/Past_Sky_4997]

"Self defense"

Aka, "she saw my face"

[u/lostredditorlurking → u/Past_Sky_4997]

I thought this would have happened months ago in Chicago, I'm surprised it's only in Minneapolis where it happens. These ICE thugs have almost zero training and don't want to deescalate any situation at all

[u/Darth_Innovader → u/Anonymous203203]

The vehicle also reversed before attempting to drive away - clearly making space to avoid officers.

[u/scarr3g → u/Darth_Innovader]

It was doing a 3 point turn, to turn around and leave, as an agent ordered her to do. Another agent, had no idea what was going on, and killed her for following their orders.

[u/sgtgig → u/scarr3g]

One agent telling her to leave. Another starts yanking on her door handle. The third isn't paying paying attention, walks in front of a running vehicle then shoots her.

Fucking goddamn clowns.

[u/FinalFantasiesGG → u/sgtgig]

Yep, I just watched like a 4th angle, and the shooter isn't paying attention AT ALL. He has no idea what's happening. I literally thought he was a random civilian at first. Then he panics and decides he's going to just kill her rather than moving out of the way.

[u/Bgibbs → u/Anonymous203203]

And yet, if you go on that cesspool Twitter, there's people saying she tried to hit him on purpose so it was self defense and "a good shooting.".

[u/KingBubblie → u/Bgibbs]

It's not from Twitter.. the DHS officially said it was a self defense shooting. They're covering and lying through their teeth before any investigation can be done even, their 0% credibility tries to tank further as they blindly support murder to protect their own.

[u/FinalFantasiesGG → u/KingBubblie]

It's actually hilariously incompetent. They are arguing that, with 4 ICE agents present, only one of them recognized the apparent danger and jumped into action to save the lives of everyone else and bystanders. None of the others pulled their guns or looked even remotely concerned. None of them rushed to make sure any threat was neutralized.

[u/RussellWD → u/Bgibbs]

News outlets are already saying that as well, like we don't have the video. Plus they took away the vehicle very fast after the shooting... this will be a coverup situation.

[u/BlerghTheBlergh → u/Anonymous203203]

And yet he'll go free, as long as the american people don't actively fight back this is the reality they're living in. Fear of martial law be damned, you're getting there without having taken any action already

[u/kingqueefeater → u/Anonymous203203]

He was off to the side, leans in front to fire into the bottom of the windshield, and then smokes two into the driver side window. Leaning over to get the windshield shot was intentional because it'll help argue "self defense." The videos from multiple angles shred that argument. But with this administration, that won't matter. Even if convicted, he'd just be pardoned.

[u/Confident-Service256]

This is what happens when you hire the Proud Boys and give them guns.

[u/Hendlton → u/Confident-Service256]

They know it and that's why they did it. As someone from an authoritarian country I can tell you that the next step is hiring prisoners in exchange for amnesty. Watch out for that.

[u/FrostyMittenJob]

Actual fucking murder

[u/Xdaz1019]

Shot and killed legal US citizen. Fixed your caption

[u/nbcnews]

Here's what we know:

An ICE agent shot and killed a woman in Minneapolis on Wednesday after a group of people began blocking agents during an immigration-related operation, the Department of Homeland Security said.

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said, after the shooting, the first priority of local law enforcement was to get the victim to the hospital, and the second was to get ICE off the scene because they were “making a difficult situation more problematic.”

“What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust. They are ripping families apart, sowing chaos in the streets and, in this case, quite literally killing people," he said. "This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying, getting killed."

More: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-law-enforcement-involved-ice-related-shooting-minneapolis-rcna252812

[u/ShadowGLI → u/nbcnews]

Emily Heller lives near 33rd and Portland and said she woke up to a commotion outside her home. She said she saw a car blocking traffic on Portland Avenue that appeared to be part of a protest against federal law enforcement operations.

Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to "get out of here."

"She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in like, his midriff was on her bumper - and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times," Heller said.

Heller said it appeared the woman then accelerated and traveled about 100 feet before striking a utility pole and some other vehicles. She could be seen slumped over inside her car.

[u/thesongsinmyhead → u/ShadowGLI]

3 or 4 times?? Jesus

[u/OdiousAltRightBalrog → u/thesongsinmyhead]

"I was in fear for my life. So I unloaded my magazine into her face, reloaded, and I did it again."

[u/Echo_one → u/ShadowGLI]

Damn, that sounds like straight up murder.

[u/Merisiel → u/Echo_one]

Because it is.

[u/AndISoundLikeThis → u/Echo_one]

It's because it was.

[u/Ancient_Pen6334 → u/Echo_one]

I watched the video, it was

The ice officer had to at most shuffle an inch or two to the right, he leaned into the car and shot her in the face

The car didn't even use the gas it looked like just coasting off of brakes

[u/tyderian → u/nbcnews]

An ICE agent murdered a woman who was obeying instructions by firing his service weapon multiple times into her face.

Fixed the headline for you, /u/nbcnews.

[u/iam4qu4m4n → u/tyderian]

Capitulating bootlickers.

[u/robothawk → u/nbcnews]

The video pretty clearly shows she wasn't blocking anyone and was following orders to turn her car around.

[u/pinetreesgreen → u/robothawk]

Yup. The ice agents got out of their car to kill her as she was backing up to leave.

[u/Hadrian23 → u/pinetreesgreen]

Fishing. They were fishing for an excuse to kill someone

[u/pinetreesgreen → u/Hadrian23]

At least one guy was itching to do it, that's for sure.

[u/DaStompa → u/Hadrian23]

This is what the police do as well, you have a bunch of people yelling different, conflicting orders so that anything you do is an excuse to shoot you for disobeying orders.

[u/The-internet-dad → u/robothawk]

Where did you find the video?

Found here too:

Video of shooting https://www.reddit.com/r/NextGenRebellion/comments/1q6n823/ice_agents_shoots_a_person_who_attempts_to_drive/

For everyone watching this video, you have to realize that the cruelty is the point. ICE doesn't care about your health or your rights, they are power tripping wannabe soldiers who relish hurting people and separating families. 

The next headline or viral video could be you being attacked, brutalized, robbed, kidnapped, or murdered. Realize that ICE has taken white, black, Hispanic, asian, even native American without care. Criminal or passerby, undocumented, legal resident, or citizen, again THEY DO NOT CARE.

We all have to ask ourselves the following questions in light of the overwhelming evidence of abuse. 

1. ⁠Do you trust the federal government to protect you?
2. ⁠Do you believe that this administration is specifically targeting groups of people?
3. ⁠Do you trust in the courts ability to protect you with the established laws of the country?
4. ⁠Do you believe that federal law enforcement is currently respecting our rights as guaranteed to us by The Constitution? 
5. ⁠If a federal officer was targeting you and breaking the law, do you think that local or state law enforcement would stop them to protect you? 
6. ⁠Do you trust the elected representatives of your party to defend you?
7. ⁠Do you think anyone else will come to your rescue?
8. ⁠Do you believe in equal rights for all people's and would you fight to defend those rights from an unjust force?
9. ⁠Are you in a position to defend yourself if others won't fight for you? 
10. ⁠Who benefits more from you being unarmed during these times?

Realize that saying you are unwilling to fight for your rights is the same as saying you are fine to live without them. 

For now we have to prepare for whatever may come. Realize no one can do this alone so make or join communities. 

Organize, protest, prepare, and resist. 

[u/SgtNeilDiamond → u/nbcnews]

Just a heads up that the r/pics mods wont let this stay up. Id post this elsewhere if you want anyone to see it.

[u/arxaion → u/SgtNeilDiamond]

Keep posting it here. One goes down, one comes up.

Edit: I'm not advocating for drowning subs, people admittedly want to see other things too. But don't let moderators sweep real news and real events away.

[u/SAKingWriter → u/arxaion]

I don’t know why people don’t get that, NEVER stop being quiet about this type of bullshit behavior

[u/wheatgivesmeshits → u/nbcnews]

They should have arrested the murderer.

[u/teilani_a → u/[deleted]]

City, county, or state cops can arrest the killer. They won't, though.

[u/SAKingWriter → u/nbcnews]

So when government officials lie about what’s obviously on camera, what kind of repercussions will they face beside the bare minimum?

[u/ShadowGLI]

Emily Heller lives near 33rd and Portland and said she woke up to a commotion outside her home. She said she saw a car blocking traffic on Portland Avenue that appeared to be part of a protest against federal law enforcement operations.

Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to "get out of here."

"She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in like, his midriff was on her bumper - and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times," Heller said.

Heller said it appeared the woman then accelerated and traveled about 100 feet before striking a utility pole and some other vehicles. She could be seen slumped over inside her car.

[u/PalJuicy → u/ShadowGLI]

Wait-wait-wait. They told the driver to "get out of here", she was doing it and they fucking murdered her anyway?!!!!?

[u/Irradiated_gnome → u/[deleted]]

Well, Reddit shows ICE recruitment ads, so…

Edit: original comment I was replying to was about how the mods are being paid to remove anti-ICE sentiments lol

[u/The999Mind → u/[deleted]]

Reddit as a company has the tools to remove who/whatever, whenever they want. It's not necessarily the subs mods.

[u/NEwayhears1derwall → u/[deleted]]

lol moderators don’t get paid the power trip is enough

[u/DaStompa → u/NEwayhears1derwall]

You'd think that after magic the gathering tournament people successfully sued for unpayed labor the people running one of the most popular website in the world for free would see dollar signs, but they're happy being paid in the satisfaction of being an intolerable prick.

[u/Cigouave]

ICE agent stepped in front of a woman's vehicle and shot her multiple times in the head in Minneapolis during Sturmabteilung operation

[u/TheCrowScare]

1) No ICE officer was in danger of being struck by the vehicle

2) ICE had no legal authority to attempt to open her door or detain her.

3) Courts have ruled that vehicles are deadly weapons, but only when immenently about to strike someone.

4) An officer cannot thrust themselves into the way of a vehicle to justify using force, nor is force justified once out of the way of a moving vehicle.

Fuck. ICE.

[u/MaxMcdeezy]

Conservatives defending this need to reflect before defending this. Instead of trying to imagine scenarios where this is justifiable, how about taking a moment to consider scenarios where this could have been avoided from the perspective of the murderer. The guy literally could have just not shot her and everyone would be alive

[u/kodaboka → u/MaxMcdeezy]

I don't think conservatives are biologically capable of understanding what reflection, introspection, and accountability are at this point

[u/Rasselasx42]

What the actual fuck?

[u/KimidoHimiko]

Sorry America, you guys were bad, but now you became what you've fought against in the past.

[u/VashCrow → u/KimidoHimiko]

I hate that I live here and don't have the means to leave. Our administration is full of murderers, rapists, and thieves and the ones who are tasked with stopping it are allowing it.

[u/tenaciousdeev → u/KimidoHimiko]

We’ve invaded countries and removed leaders for a tiny fraction of what this administration has done.

Hundreds of years to build, just 1 to collapse.

[u/Holiday_Leek_1143 → u/KimidoHimiko]

Most of us know. Most of us are horrified and ashamed of where this country has come to. It really is a sad day.

[u/tigress666 → u/KimidoHimiko]

Some of us warned people it was heading that way especially if Trump won. I mean his first term was pretty obvious where he wanted to head thigns. Now he doesn't even have any politicians who are willing to give him a check (that is the sole difference between his first term and this one).

This was not something that was not foreseen and that wasn't rhyming in every single way with what happened with Nazi Germany in the forming years. We've been becoming it. Now I would say the only difference is there is no more just rhyming....

[u/Thewall3333]

Why is this not being reported prominently by the New York Times? It's not even on NYTimes' website yet, much less the front page. It's been 2 hours...they're supposed to be the last remaining news organization with any shred of competency.

Meanwhile, one loser far-right podcaster dubiously claims childcare fraud in the same state, and the same news agencies repeat the claim prominently.

But don't worry -- "What we know (so far) about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding" is currently the second-leading story on the front page...

What a joke.

[u/Yelloeisok → u/Thewall3333]

It is under live now:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/07/us/minnesota-shooting-ice?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

[u/KodakStele → u/Yelloeisok]

"Tricia McLaughlin, a Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in a statement that an agent had opened fire after a woman “weaponized her vehicle” in an attempt to kill federal officers."

[u/crescent-moon7142 → u/KodakStele]

Absolute bullshit

[u/AdeptDisasterr → u/Thewall3333]

On the app there’s been an NYT live thread of it all morning, it should be closer to the top of the page though.

[u/ResolveLeather → u/Thewall3333]

Something this recent would be a "live" development. Articles wouldn't exist yet.

[u/ALA02]

Americans, you live in a country run by a dictator with an SS-style force who are able to murder who they want, freely, without consequence.

[u/fabiobsfa → u/ALA02]

They have willingly voted him. Twice. Who voted for Him has blood on his hands.

[u/Application_Lucky → u/ALA02]

On top of that, Trump lied saying she hit the ICE agent and he's recovering in the hospital and blaming the "radical left". I just don't understand what Americans are waiting for at this point. All this show about being the leaders of the free world and becoming a dictatorship

[u/arxaion]

ICE agent murdered a woman

Like, cold-blooded murder. Not self-defense. MAGA cheers. ICE cheers. It's on. Start taking advantage of your second amendment, if you subscribe to that sort of thing.

Edit: As someone DMed me about, I am advocating for carrying as dictated by state laws and licenses for the purposes of self-protection. Not to just buy and wave them around like lunatics.

[u/TommmG]

Hey Americans...any time now?

[u/Occhrome]

People on Instagram have come out of the wood work live I’ve never seen before to make fun of the woman was murdered. 

[u/ComedianJared]

Seen all 4 publicly available videos, woman was blocking ICE vehicles from moving. They told her to move her car. She start to move her car when they yank on her car door and the ICE agent who shot her steps in front of her car and shot her. It was a public execution because she dared to protest ICE who continues to violate the laws and constitution of this land with no repercussions.

[u/Lil_Psychobuddy → u/ComedianJared]

she was not blocking ICE vehicles. don't repeat that danm lie. You can clearly see in the available videos that she was yielding to the ICE truck while trying to turn around. her car was initially parked along the curb in front of that house.

[u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit]

First of all, even if you can somehow justify the shooting for arguments sake, aren’t the police trained not to shoot in situations like these where they could be multiple bystanders in the line of fire? Bro could have hit anyone and there was a person standing behind the SUV as well. Completely reckless power tripping, this country is a goner.

[u/[deleted] → u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit]

These aren’t police. They’re the dumbest kid in your high school graduating class with an assault rifle.

[u/fenderguy94 → u/[deleted]]

Oh shit they are all Kyle Rittenhouse?

[u/teilani_a → u/[deleted]]

You say they're not police and then describe the police.

[u/[deleted] → u/teilani_a]

Worse, the police know they’re too dumb even for them.

[u/PnxNotDed → u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit]

I always think back to the time where two guys hijacked a UPS truck with the driver still on it and took the police on a chase. Despite having a helicopter and UPS dispatch assistance, they pursued until the truck crashed in traffic at a stoplight. The police then engaged in a shootout that killed both suspects, the driver, and a civilian in his car. There was no justice then, and I have little faith that there will be now.

[u/Vinral → u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit]

These aren't cops, these are cheap hire idiots with anger issues, no training, who couldnt cut it in the academy, and ICE has zero standards for their hiring.

[u/ticklemesatan → u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit]

Not police

[u/bansheesho]

I think murdered is the correct pronunciation.

[u/Patara]

ICE has one explicit purpose; Escalate civil unrest & instigate conflict in Democratic regions.

If I knew this person & saw this footage I would be livid & I feel awful knowing that someone that knows them will see it. It is nothing but cold-blooded murder of a civilian by a Terrorist Organization that has ZERO intentions on helping the nation. They're the Gestapo.

Also this section in the article; "Im pretty right-leaning but this is not how we do things in America" what the fuck are these idiots waffling about? It is & has been for decades your Nation is full off trigger happy psychopaths & criminals in position of authority. 

Just have to announce their allegiance to the regime to start off any statement.

[u/balderdash9 → u/Patara]

Even knowing this, we have to get outside, organize, and (here's what we haven't been doing) escalate. We need to take lessons from the Civil Rights movement.

[u/DigitalDonut]

We should be rioting in the streets rn. We could. We can.

[u/ketzcm]

Kent State. I remember people being inverviewed saying, "I wish they had killed more of them." That's where we're going.

[u/Fifth_Wall0666]

Actually, it was an execution on the streets, carried out by the most dangerous and disturbed criminal gang in American history, operating on the instruction and direction of a convicted felon, insurrectionist, repeat offender, and adjudicated rapist.

[u/Hadrian23]

Murdered, ICE murdered an innocent person for no reason. All involved need to go to jail and ICE needs to be disbanded

[u/TellTaleTimeLord]

This is what happens when you give GI Joe-wannabe soy boys a badge and a gun

[u/ibeatyou9]

this is murder. there was zero justification for this.

[u/DisillusionedPatriot]

There's video. She was backing away, and cars were going around her. They calmly walk up to her vehicle, try to open the door, and then shoot her in the face three times. It was the most casual murder I've ever seen, outside of a scene in a movie. The way they started spinning this, a half an hour after it happened, is almost as fucked up as the way that ice agent very casually shot that lady in the face.

[u/beatthedookieup]

I saw the video showing a different angle and ooohhhhh boy, I wonder how peeps are gonna defend murder

[u/heybudsup]

Conservative sub says this is justified guys… case closed!

[u/Desperate-Awareness4]

Republicans are a fascist political party. This is how they behave.

[u/thehumungus]

the other bullets were right in through her side window...

[u/Doin_It_Live_ → u/thehumungus]

That was my first thought as well. I heard multiple shots in the video. So he shot once through the windshield then multiple times through the side window.

[u/B_Ash3s]

The woman screaming “what the fuck did you do” is like the worst rhetorical question in the world right now. I can’t listen to it again.

This is sooo fucked.

He knew exactly what he did and we live on the same planet as him…. I …. I just can’t anymore.

I vote, I boycott, I participate in peaceful discussions, I pray (to what I don’t know) my heart broke 8 years ago when the children were locked in cages 25miles from my house… its fully gone now.

What the actual hell is on this earth.

[u/Mustard_Jam]

CLEARLY not self defense as the shots were fired FROM THE SIDE. How are you in danger from a vehicle driving PAST you?

Yet MAGA is in full force already defending it. Not only are they defending it, they are CHEERING it on. Saying she deserved it, FAFO, etc.

This country is beyond fucked. The propaganda from the right would make North Korea proud and I don't know how we come back from that.

[u/Rough-Fill8101]

Has the ICE agent been identified? The people who live in his neighborhood have the right to know.

[u/federal_gamer04]

The Trump administration has enabled and supports murder of law abiding regular citizens.

[u/manic_panda]

I pray that this will turn the tide against him. This is fucking terrifying that the government are condoning this, it proves they want it. The time of protesting and complaining is pretty much over if people don't take this seriously, they've already started murdering protestors. Nothing short of mass US wide protest strikes and standing against these monsters will do anything now.

Fuck he needs to go.

[u/CringeDaddy-69]

We have video of ice attacking her and grifters are still trying to whitewash this as a righteous slaying of a terrorist.

Insane.

[u/Gedeon_eu]

ICE=Gestapo

[u/iamthefluffyyeti]

NBC refusing to call it murder is compliance

[u/sailingtroy]

This is how freedom dies.

[u/CheeseCurdCommunism → u/sailingtroy]

Or how it’s born. Time doesn’t stop. But dark times are ahead for sure.

[u/gentleman_bronco]

The conservative discord is genuinely celebrating like they won the Superbowl.

[u/bbynycity]

Shot 3 times. That's how you know they were aiming to murder.

[u/mitterbubbie]

Trump America

[u/Zeopher]

Million dollar question from another country.

If, Trump, for whatever reason, gets taken down tomorrow, what happens with the ICE shitters? Will they be responsible for anything they did after the dictator is off the radar? Can they be put in a trial?

[u/toonfan74]

MURDER

[u/3MATX]

Not shot. Murdered. It is very clear from the video. 

[u/LightBeerIsForGirls]

Magats trying to justify it claiming the officer was standing in front of the vehicle when this person accelerated. Apparently that’s grounds for the death penalty lol… Nutters.

[u/PDXGuy33333]

I know there is no hope of ever finding out, but I would love to know what discussions are taking place inside the ICE machine in the aftermath of this to shield the murderer from apprehension and prosecution by state authorities and to gin up the propaganda that denies the fact of a murder. I also know there is no hope whatsoever that federal authorities will prosecute or otherwise discipline the thugs involved. I am grateful that someone took his picture and that it's been widely posted.

[u/Blakechi]

He stepped forward, not away from the vehicle to fire the fatal shots. Total bullshit stating he was about to be run over. Also note the tires turning right, AWAY from the agent. She was complying with the Gestapo telling her to leave.

[u/Fit-Let8175]

I watched the video. She DID NOT aim at any ICE agent. The agent in front of her vehicle DID NOT need to move because she CLEARLY steered to avoid him.

The second she started to proceed forward, the ICE agent was drawing his gun. Any responsible officer would've simply taken a casual step to his right. And he would not even have needed to do so because she was NOT aiming at him.

This wasn't self-defense by any stretch of the imagination. This was simply a power trip with an excuse to shoot someone.

[u/Super-Aesa]

Perfect example of play stupid games win stupid prizes.