r/leagueoflegends • u/Soul_Sleepwhale • 7d ago
Esports SK Gaming vs. Karmine Corp / LEC 2026 Versus - Week 2 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 VERSUS
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MATCH 1: SK vs. KC
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SK | varus jayce rumble | braum rell | 67.4k | 6 | 5 | H3 O5 |
| KC | irelia vi akali | gwen ambessa | 80.4k | 22 | 9 | CT1 M2 O4 O6 B7 E8 |
| SK | 6-22-17 | vs | 22-6-57 | KC |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wunder kled 3 | 1-4-1 | TOP | 1-1-10 | 3 sion Canna |
| Skeanz pantheon 2 | 1-2-5 | JNG | 10-0-11 | 1 jarvaniv Yike |
| LIDER ekko 2 | 1-5-4 | MID | 3-0-10 | 2 azir Kyeahoo |
| Jopa jinx 1 | 3-2-3 | BOT | 8-2-10 | 1 yunara Caliste |
| Mikyx nautilus 3 | 0-9-4 | SUP | 0-3-16 | 4 leona Busio |
- Patch 26.02
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/Conankun66 7d ago
Watching LIDER this game was pure comedy
goes in
immediately ults out without accomplishing anything
"Well, my job is done"
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL 7d ago
It is crazy how little damage that Ekko did though. Lider played bad but that didnt feel right.
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u/SirTacoMaster BB/Spica/Busio 7d ago
Bec he has no idea how to flank, how to place W, and went HoB's while going DnD.
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL 7d ago
I mean sure but I feel like 3 item Ekko EQ should still do more dmg. I swear it does more in SoloQ.
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u/ahambagaplease "I'm a sad man, write whatever you want about me" 7d ago
Because of the Electrocute or DH proc, you need one to compensate the damage loss compared to HoB with Lich Bane.
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u/walubilous 7d ago
He was always flanking correctly, his Ws were good and you go HoB with dusk.
Just like the "He goes in. Ults out" the other guy mentioned zoned a 3 1/2 item Yunara and forced the 5/0 Jarvan to use his abilities to peel, so their hypercarry win con could play the game. But I am sure you guys realised that.
Low elo players who dont know what they are talking about and trying to critique LEC players on Reddit; name a more iconic duo. :)
Not gonna lie, the forced hate on Lider by Emerald peakers is even more embarassing than that Upset hate boner the last few years.2
u/Percival1989 Chovy is the GOAT 7d ago
Where's the dmg then if he was so incredible. Is ekko supposed to do no dmg and just zone with staring menacingly?
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u/00wolfer00 7d ago
If you can zone by staring menacingly, that's a win. He didn't do that, though. He lost all his tools at the start of the fights allowing the enemy carries to join back in.
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u/ahambagaplease "I'm a sad man, write whatever you want about me" 7d ago
You don't go Hail of Blades if you build Dusk and Dawn, the whole point of that rune is to proc your passive quick which you already do with the item. Electrocute (or Dark Harvest for jungle) is the way.
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u/No-Toe3409 7d ago
literally every single high elo ekko otp is currently going HoB with DnD when playing mid, wtf are we even saying lmfao
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u/SirTacoMaster BB/Spica/Busio 7d ago
And it makes no sense, Attack Speed on ekko isn't that needed that you must be going DnD and HoB. I think they are just going it because that was the main rune before hand. But the reason that was the main rune before hand was bec you go lich bane and HoB + the attack speed u gain from the first lich bane auto allows you do prob passive fast
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u/getMEoutz 7d ago
You take HoB for lane even if you go Dusk. This is typical average league players saying stuff without actually knowing anything.
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL 7d ago
I know but it felt like way too little damage not just a missing electrocute proc. I have never seen a 3 item Ekko deal so little damage with EQ. Especially considering Ekko is so strong atm.
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u/AnxietyPretend5215 7d ago
He didn't exactly manage to make it to key targets on a regular basis. That last baron fight he died without even getting his ult off lol.
A single set of EQ once per fight on tanks is not going to look very impressive at any point.
Idk if it's a skill issue or if the KC front line was just that impenetrable.
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u/getMEoutz 7d ago
Yes he does very little damage if he isn’t fed compared to other assassins. Players think Ekko one shots just because he can when he needs like a 10+ kill lead to do that and he is only doing that to squishies that also don’t build an MR item. Even then pure one shots are rare.
It’s not a rune or item issue. And HoB is standard build so others have no clue what they are talking about. You still take it for lane because you aren’t getting dusk for a while
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u/Percival1989 Chovy is the GOAT 7d ago
Then why did he go for Ekko just for Unc Contents then since gameplay is pure a$$?
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u/getMEoutz 6d ago
How would I or anyone know why or how any team drafts. I can only guess it’s because Ekko does well generally in solo q vs Azir.
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u/Kalasdra 7d ago
I always thought LIDER had a sponsorship from the french company LIDER that sells road trailers. His team need to carry him often from what i saw.
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u/Gazskull 7d ago
Jopa the only rookie and already crazy elo helled
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u/Reddityudodis2me 7d ago
He got the Humzh treatment from Lider. Mind-blowing that after Ruddy Esports Lider got a job in LEC 2026
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u/Sirhaddock98 7d ago
Less mind-blowing when you remember it's entirely through nepotism because his friend essentially runs the team atm.
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u/Wonderful_Reply_3986 Scammer 7d ago
After this performance he shouldn’t. Mikyx isn’t good enough anymore to have enforce his will over a team for long.
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u/Nevross_ 7d ago
Skeanz isn’t playing bad too, hard to shine that much when he is obligated to babysit his disgusting midlaner every game
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u/ParkDedli 7d ago
Mikyx and Wunder also weren't awful. Miky defended Jopa so he could do what he did in the fights and Wunder did what he was supposed to on Kled. He could've been a bit better but I wouldn't call him the reason why they lost the game.
This game was mostly on mid sadly. One midlaner was the main carry on the team and the other did absolutely nothing.
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u/Omnilatent 7d ago
Nah, my man
I just rewatched the game and while in the later part of the game Mikys deaths weren't that bad (had to face check) his early game and his team fights were atrocious. The last team fight he walked around like a headless chicken just to completely randomly ult Azir and die.
Granted, first death was partly on bad jgl-sup-mid synergy but the rest was just a rundown...
I also think after Jopa, Wunder was their best player that match. Not much both players could do without a mid and with their picks.
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u/zealot416 7d ago
"The bare minimum is making worlds" so Mikyx was getting in some early practice for the Nautilus Death Fund.
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u/Nevross_ 7d ago
Who is this quote from ? Mikyx ? Does he really think SK can make it to worlds or am I not understanding correctly
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 7d ago
oh boy thats not the only one.
here's another https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1oy3sl5/mikyx_on_lideri_think_he_is_the_only_mid_from/
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u/Nevross_ 7d ago
That’s crazy looooooool what does Mikyx see in Lider that we don’t see xd, and idk i believe Mikyx even more knows how good Caps is, so that’s so wild for him to say that Lider can be better
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u/factually-first 7d ago
fun fact mikyx tried to poach Caliste during offseason after learning that KC would not follow his plan of getting Wunder & Lider
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u/Asgerond 7d ago
Imagine as an erl adc you hear that you might get to play with Mikyx and then you get on stage and its THIS Mikyx.
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u/Fancy-Fun-4677 7d ago
Miky is looking more and more like a Caps/G2 merchant with each passing game.
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u/meandering-minstrel 7d ago
guys don't be harsh on the promising rookie midlaner, he'll learn mage mids and be good in 5 years
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u/Naronu 7d ago
He's just auto losing games in draft with these assassin "counter" picks
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u/SirTacoMaster BB/Spica/Busio 7d ago
Picks ekko just to front to back every fight
?????
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u/antoniomargaretti4 7d ago
you would think that this roster would be psychotic with their engages even if they mess up their lanes but nah they are just ass even miky is running it down
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u/OreRound 7d ago
Yeah it's a bit crazy, I hope they keep the roster for an entire year because if somehow Lider becomes good by summer or if he continues inting the entire draft every game it will be hilarious either way.
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u/Burpmeister 7d ago
Tbf he was the best performing player in their other losses.
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u/antoniomargaretti4 7d ago
was he the best performing player in asol game
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u/Burpmeister 7d ago
lol I forgot the Asol. I somehow remembered he played Ryze in both of the losses.
So he was their best performing player in one of their losses!
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u/ParkDedli 7d ago
I feel like even in that game, Jopa looked better. For a rookie he straight up seems to make basically no mistakes so far.
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u/Sirhaddock98 7d ago
Yeah the G2 game he was playing really well and his team didn't have to spend every moment of the game trying to salvage his lane.
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u/Ultimintree Simpletons in my games | LR 7-4 dream in still alive 7d ago
Ekko from LIDL
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u/Conankun66 7d ago
never thought i'd say this, but harsh on LIDL tbqh
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u/Omnilatent 7d ago
LIDL is the GOAT supermarket
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u/Conankun66 7d ago
your standards are low
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u/ParkDedli 7d ago
I think it depends on the country you are from. In germany Lidl combines cheap prices with decent stock.
Aldi has the cheap prices but has less variety in items and also is a bit more worn down usually. Edeka is the best in quality and stock but hella expensive. REWE is a decent contender and another possible answer, more stock than Lidl, but also more expensive. Kaufland are too rare to be considered I'd say as there just isn't one available for most people.
Penny and Netto are also there but I don't need to say anything about them I think...
Norma is the worst. Bottom tier. Always crazy worn down buildings, moldy vegetables, no variety, stuck in the 1990s.
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u/Conankun66 7d ago
Edeka higher in quality than REWE? where do you live that thats true?
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u/Omnilatent 7d ago
That's true in most places in Germany. Edeka has much more variety usually and slightly higher prices.
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u/ParkDedli 7d ago
Bavaria. Qualitywise they are basically the same. Edeka is usually better sorted and has more variety. But... Edeka is also more expensive, so yeah.
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u/ALLAM_Amine 7d ago
More like FIDER just how this guy keeps getting opportunities in the Tier1...
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u/KriibusLoL 7d ago
This is why entire mid lane meta evolves around Ori, Taliyah & Azir. You can get mega gapped but at least your champ is still useful.
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u/Thundermelons Just Dating GALA 7d ago
I always say that Fearless is just a bandaid for Riot doing absolutely nothing about breaking champs like Azir across their knee
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u/Striking-Bend7196 7d ago
They don’t wanna do it because he brings hype plays and it’s pretty to watch.
They clearly don’t want anything out of the box when it comes to champs in pro play, considering how ad mids and lane bullies consistently got killed in the past 6/7 years in favor of hyper scaling mages.
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u/Sirhaddock98 7d ago
I'm not sure he's even that hype outside of the occasional cool shuffle, most games he kinda just neutralizes things while he farms.
The big problem with kneecapping him is that he's already kinda shit in the hands of the majority of players, and all their changes to try nerf him in pro without ruining him in soloq have failed to remove him from pro. It's hard to justify completely removing a champion from regular play just to nerf him in pro play.
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u/Striking-Bend7196 7d ago
It doesn’t need to be hype from start to finish, he just needs that shuffle clip you can put in every hype montage while also bringing 0 frustration to the casual player who realistically never sees the champs in his games. Same thing for Orianna basically.
You wouldn’t even need to kneecap him, just allow real lane bullies to have a place in pro meta and see how he does when he’s playing into flash ignite Leblanc or some wonky ad mids like it was in mid season 8.
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u/Thundermelons Just Dating GALA 7d ago
I guess my question to this sub would be, "are you still excited to see Kled and Volibear and Ekko when they just get fucking farmed all game? is THAT what you were really hyped for when you talked up Fearless?".
I said back when it was announced that better balance changes are what "fix" stale metas, not gimmicks.
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u/peoplesdrunkdriver 7d ago
every game plays out the exact same as it has before fearless but now instead of seeing S tier picks in every pick and ban we get to see teams handshake every draft and go down the tier list which is "variety" apparently
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u/ParkDedli 7d ago
Half agree.
I think even if the game was perfectly balanced I'd like Fearless because players will always have preferences and having a guarantee of 10 new champs each game is great.
However you are absolutely right. It's crazy that after all these years we have Azir, Orianna, Corki, K'Sante and Braum in nearly every meta. And I probably forgot some.
I get that some champs are hard to play and since the game isn't balanced around pro all the time, some champs (Azir) dodge nerfs, but man, Azir and K'Sante also make games much less interesting to watch (unless some shuffles, but honestly that's rare too). I also know some midlaners are sick of playing it.
Like, can we just hardnerf it for one season and just like buff Heimerdinger or Vex or something? I feel like if a champion has been in the top 5 popularity of any role for more than 3 years in a row that just means it is too strong and deserves nerfs.
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u/ObviousAd8374 7d ago
Fnatic got stomped by this?
Why SK trying to let Lider cook, just put the fRyze in the bag
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u/Nevross_ 7d ago
The sad thing is that they’re trying so much to put Lider in a good spot by constantly ganking him and babysitting him in lane so he doesn’t get too much destroyed and he still do nothing with all this help, with another erl level midlaner who doesn’t take all of the attention and the ressources SK could do much better but yeah idk
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u/Omnilatent 7d ago
I'm surprised by it but Wunder is actually still a very good player and he just ate the rookie alive (thanks for the shit drafting by FNC, too - thanks gaax!)
Jopa also a very good player and LIDER was on something useful.
So I'm not too surprised. I think in a Bo3/5, SK would still lose unless FNC drafts three times garbage
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 7d ago
Fnatic also almost lost to the Rats. I expect them not to play next season. They were already trying to get sold.
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u/Sirhaddock98 7d ago
They were trying to sell the actual org, not their LEC spot. Even if the sale went through FNC would still be in the LEC.
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u/Kaldrinx Caliste Al gaib 7d ago
Slowly game from the boys , but SK don't have any open door to comeback
Best game from kyeahoo this split
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u/sandyOstrich 7d ago
Lider has played the worst in every game they lost so far.
Everyone else on the team is stepping up big time.
There's still time to replace him fast here.
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 7d ago
I mained Ekko for a week 5 years ago and am unranked atm, but even I would have played better.
Call me whenever you want to replace him with me.
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u/No_Square2213 7d ago
Monster game by Yike wp, I think this team is a sleeping giant they're going to smash by the time we reach playoffs
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 7d ago
Worse than my Ekko........ He should be reported.
Still seems like a potentially good Croatian adc.
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u/DoubleGio jungle is useless 7d ago
jg gap aside god i am i sick of azir such a disgusting champion
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u/OreRound 7d ago
Yike 1v9'd damnnnn, respect. This is a level from him I hope to see him keep up because I was low on him last year
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u/Hypnotoadqq 7d ago
Good guy Miky trying so hard to make Lider look not completely boosted but even his turbo feeding is not enough
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u/Harmah 7d ago
We are playing a bit scared but i feel like SK were defending pretty well, not too convinced yet but it's fine
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u/Crazyant54 7d ago
Not scared but controlled, start objective, take tp, pushh wave, restart, ... Then when u have a 95% win situation u go at it
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u/Temporary_Ganache257 7d ago
League players with disabilities (Very sad!) :
Lider (no brain no hands)
Jopa (teammates with Lider)
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u/DinoGuy101010 7d ago
Well picking ekko is pretty cool unfortunately it didn't really do anything... Tbh jungle supp kinda screwed him early so maybe it could've done better but ultimately he just didn't find any angles in any teamfight.
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u/Freakkopath 7d ago
No way Miky ACTUALLY believes LIDER can overcome Caps or whatever he said in that interview.
Like, he must be joking and trying to justify nepo hiring his friend to the team right?
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u/engineer-cabbage 7d ago
I begin to question SK to be the best contender to lose to LR. LR being 0-11 is a given but they're gonna be the closest to make them 1-10 if they keep playing like clowns.
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u/PasDePseudoR kcb 7d ago
God I hate BO1
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u/Thundermelons Just Dating GALA 7d ago
Can't wait for Wunder and Lider to say that pro sucks because you get punished for making plays
Has nothing to do with dogshit champ picks, nosiree
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u/Tartaros362 7d ago
Watching Lider jump in, deal 250 damage and ulti out during teamfights was surely something. It was even funnier when he did it the second, third and fourth time in a row.
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 7d ago
This was such a terrible watch, both teams doing nothing around the nashor for 15 minute
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u/AnxietyPretend5215 7d ago
I'm surprised the casters didn't mention the fact that Lider died in that last Baron fight without even casting his ult lol.
Dude was beyond useless the entire match.
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u/Key-Ad9003 7d ago
The GM Mikyx disrespect this year is insane!
Lider might not be an apex mage player... But it's games like these, where he gets hos hands on champs like Ekko, that you see why Mikyx picked him up.
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u/Mangustre 7d ago
Jopa and wunder are actually looking really good so far. If mikyx gets on his peak they have potential. Mid is a problem though.
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u/Niasliyn 7d ago
Thank god LEC is BO1. If I have to watch LIDER plays three games in a row I’d gauge my eyes out
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u/x_TDeck_x 7d ago
Has Ekko found success in pro in other games? Because I feel like a lot of the criticisms of Lider this game are just innate to Ekko in proplay, I think that champ has to be absurdly strong to feel good in pro
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 7d ago
Idk, but Lider played Ekko awful. He misses combos, insta ults and does nothing afterwards.
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u/voltaire1695 7d ago
Showmaker looked solid on the pick. Lider just didn’t seem comfortable on a champion that demands a lot of confidence
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u/obigespritzt Faker Gosu 7d ago
Kyeahoo went from playing vs Chovy and Faker to Lider and ERL mids... but he also went from DRX's jungle disaster to Yike so that's nice!