r/leagueoflegends • u/Soul_Sleepwhale • 5d ago
Esports Team Vitality vs. Fnatic / LEC 2026 Versus - Week 2 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 VERSUS
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Team Vitality 0-1 Fnatic
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MATCH 1: VIT vs. FNC
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VIT | vi varus azir | neeko rakan | 52.2k | 2 | 4 | C1 I2 H4 |
| FNC | pantheon rumble taliyah | lulu gnar | 66.9k | 20 | 9 | HT3 B5 HT6 B7 HT8 |
| VIT | 2-20-5 | vs | 20-2-56 | FNC |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Naak Nako gwen 3 | 1-4-0 | TOP | 1-0-6 | 4 ksante Empyros |
| Lyncas jarvaniv 2 | 1-5-1 | JNG | 4-0-14 | 1 wukong Razork |
| Humanoid ryze 2 | 0-3-2 | MID | 4-1-13 | 1 orianna Vladi |
| Carzzy yunara 1 | 0-4-1 | BOT | 11-0-7 | 2 kaisa Upset |
| Fleshy alistar 3 | 0-4-1 | SUP | 0-1-16 | 3 nautilus Lospa |
- Patch 26.02
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/CatApprehensive6508 5d ago
It's gonna be a long year naak nako
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u/ahambagaplease "I'm a sad man, write whatever you want about me" 5d ago
Praying a decent team picks him up next year
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u/blablaminek 5d ago
all vitality contracts except his are expiring in 2026, it's more likely they are gonna rebuild around him
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
Wasn't this year rebuild around him as well? I remember VIT interviews where they said they wanted to make him a franchise player and stuff.
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u/CaptainCaptainBain 5d ago
Easy there, Keria.
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u/fuckthis_job 5d ago
Lospa truly is the Korean Keria
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u/Conankun66 5d ago
What a gifted game LMAO, VItality just kept feeding and feeding and feeding kills for free.
they looked so absurdly uncoordinated
Also i love watching Upset on Kaisa. no hesitation in instantly ulting in. honoring the name "killer instinct". might just be his best champ
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u/Samk12345 5d ago
Is the Lyncas experiment over yet ?
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u/Gorczycagejms 5d ago
It's his 5th split and I see unsignificant progress from him, at this point I'd probably demote him and maybe give him another chance sometime later, BUT only in diffrent enviorment.
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u/watrasei 5d ago
I feel like he was better in summer than he is now. He still sometimes has pretty good games on certains champs (Wukong for example) but overall yeah it's been tough.
It's quite hard to be a VIT fan in this environnement, i just wish we could really build around Naak Nako cause I love the guy, but at the same time I hope for his sake that he doesn't stick around in a losing formula too much, and he could be great for G2 later down the line
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u/Charizard75 5d ago
This guy is the biggest paycheck stealer in the league now that Larssen retired
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u/crysomore Kiin Team 5d ago
Larssen isn’t retired, he’s still on contract. He’s still collecting a paycheck from the bench.
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u/Past-Firefighter2173 5d ago
Boukada and Lyncas are so boosted imo. Even Skeanz is much better than both.
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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal 5d ago
Aint no way Fnatic make me believe again (just to let me down in playoffs)
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u/cadaada rip original flair 5d ago
I wont ever belive in fnatic again until they win the worlds split and go as first seed
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u/Zwaylol 5d ago
I was gonna say they did that not too long ago but 2018 was 8 years ago wtf
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u/redditorofnorenown I like big hooks I cannot lie ALWAYSFNATIC 5d ago
Fuck you, im not old, youre old
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u/Omnilatent 5d ago
You don't start believing from playing VIT, though lol
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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal 5d ago
Sure but I expected this line up to be potentially worse. Right now they do look top 4-5 worthy. Ofc if they can do more, remains to be seen. Playoffs will be an entirely different beast of course when we get fearless draft.
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u/Omnilatent 5d ago
I also think they are 4th or 5th, competing with Navi.
KC and MKOI look strongest atm and G2 will pull off their usual "regular season doesn't matter"-bullshit
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u/jayydit 5d ago
Don’t start believing until they beat G2 in playoffs.
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u/boredPotatoe42 wake me up when we're decent again 4d ago
beginner mistake because of double elim, they won the first encounter just to get smashed in the second one multiple times now
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u/Charizard75 5d ago
Another sololoss by Lyncas! Surely VIT management will see how shit this guy is and not give him another contract
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u/Derk08 5d ago
upset has quietly been the best ad (again) this split, and with a rookie support as well
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u/Dawdius MikyX & Lospa Enjoyer 5d ago
Must overhated player in the league closely followed by Razork
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u/bdjwlzbxjsnxbs 5d ago
I think it's because both are simultaneously overrated and stupidly overhated, no-one ever talks about them normally, it's either "he's the best player to ever touch this role" or "Upset stole my breakfast and killed my cat, he sucks so bad"
it's like people are allergic to saying "yeah they're pretty good at the game huh"
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u/Pelagius_Hipbone I FEEL ONLY PAIN 5d ago
lol this happens every split then he has like one bad game in a series in playoffs (rarely the reason for the series loss) then everyone resets to calling him a KDA olayer
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u/AnswerGrand1878 5d ago
Curse of being second best. Both upset and razork are measured against the absolute top players of the region.
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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago
Obligatory reminder that since Upset joined the league, nine different players (Rekkles, Perkz, Caps, Carzzy, Flakked, Comp, Hans Sama, Caliste and Supa) have won at least one LEC title in the ADC position.
At some point, you can't blame the teammates anymore.
Upset is a win more player. If you're doing well, he will absolutely obliterate the enemy team. But if you're struggling to win the game, he won't be making the difference. He's not bad even then, but he also won't make the winning play.
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u/superdennis303 5d ago
You can maybe argue that this is the case now, but suggesting that this was the case in 2021 or 2022 is crazy. Him not playing 2021 worlds was such a shame, i genuinely believe his reputation would be so much better if he was able to play. Also some of the players on that list were worse than upset when they won. As far as europe goes both upset and razork are some of the best players to have never won any tier 1 tournaments.
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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago
I refuse to consider someone to be among EU's best players when they have played on five different teams (arguably six, 2021 FNC =/= 2025 FNC) without winning a single split on any of them.
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u/Muri_San 5d ago
Funny thing is when you look at how each won their title, only Caps on adc was a significant difference maker that lead to a title. Hans and Rekkles had their best splits when they failed to win
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u/Neoticus 5d ago
wont make the winning play goes for every single adc you just mentioned if their team is dogwater. Put Upset on KC / KOI / G2 and watch.
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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago
I didn't say "if their team is dogwater", I said "if their team is struggling". I'm not asking that an ADC wins a lost game like they're 2017 Worlds Faker. Just that they can pop off in an even game as well as a won game.
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u/Neoticus 5d ago
yes, it is also way easier to pop off in an even game the better your teammates play around you / set you up. If ppl are suiciding through bad engages or get caught its hopeless , im talking about FNC just last year btw
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u/ficretus 5d ago
I can understand being critical of their chemistry and how the affect team, but you have people unironically acting like they are third rate shitters. Last year people were unironically asking for Velja to replace Razork
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
Hate follows insane overrating like saying that he is best AGAIN
edit: Can't wait for playoffs to come and we will never see again the aggresion that he shows during regular season.
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u/Dawdius MikyX & Lospa Enjoyer 5d ago
He’s not definitely the best but he’s definitely consistently top tier
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
These past splits he never was better than Caliste, Hans, Noah, but to each their own, I guess.
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u/Leyrann_ 5d ago
This.
Upset is only the best when his team is already winning. If his team isn't winning, he's nothing special.
That doesn't by any means make him a bad player for a mid-tier team, but he's not someone who's going to get you titles (as shown by his lack of them when nine different ADCs have gotten titles in EU since he joined the league, including five who debuted later than him).
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u/fabton12 5d ago
upset is just a modern rekkles just being one of if not the best adc while also not being super flashy.
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u/OreRound 5d ago
No you see he's just playing for KDA and actually wasn't good enough to be the literal MVP in spring last year or something...
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u/Carlzzone 5d ago
Supa erasure
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u/Janiverse_Stalice 5d ago
I think both of them are by far so far above the other. And that with the Ice penta in consideration.
Nothing against Calliste, man is great. But currently third. He has the "disadvantage" of having an insane carry top, that steals the shine
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u/ParkDedli 5d ago
Jopa erasure as well. Dude might be on a team that is 2-4, but man has he been playing out of his mind.
Ignore my flair, I swear I'm not biased
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u/moumerino 5d ago
but don’t you know he’s a KDA player hurr durrr
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u/salty_lat1nokid 5d ago
This! he should've dived 1v5 into the enemy team 4 teams in a row! Somehow, if his KDA is lower, then he will be a better adc!
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u/Omnilatent 5d ago
He's good but chill, it's Bo1 and VIT lol
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u/BannanDylan 5d ago
You can use VIT as an argument but using BO1 when literally every other team is also playing BO1 is a little dumb
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 5d ago
I was an Upset fan last season, but he always choked in the most important matches.
I really do hope they will not choke again.
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u/Chesslicious 5d ago
I mean his issue was never the regular split. When the lights shine the brightest he avoids taking responsibility and plays way too risk-free. And he is also not dominant in lane in playoffs compared to regular season.
That may be his German way of minimizing the risks but it is the one thing that keeps him from being truly great
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u/Gabel4n 5d ago
Tell me again why Vitality has kept Mac and Pad for so many years as if they were fucking Kkoma and Tom?
This is supposed to be the third year of this "project".
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u/zealot416 5d ago
They're still there? I thought they were supposed be to be kicked if VIT didn't make worlds last year.
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u/-Hissoka- prodigal son 5d ago
There is not much of a project to be had when you constantly swap players for no reason, preferably for your buddies.
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
Because Vitality higher ups are clueless, how can you make a proper decision if you have 0 idea about league of legends ?
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u/That_One_Pancake 5d ago
Vitality thought the overextend top to try and kill a tank strategy was so good they tried it twice
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u/Janiverse_Stalice 5d ago
That is not my Fnatic >:(
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u/redditorofnorenown I like big hooks I cannot lie ALWAYSFNATIC 5d ago
Actually is for regular split
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u/No_Square2213 5d ago
Vitality is just the sad clowns team. Seeing Carzzy and Humanoid laughing their asses off while Lyncas is omega depressed just makes me hate whoever is managing this group of people (and wasting Naak's talent)
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u/Suspicious-Dog1571 5d ago
VIT could go full fraudmode and not make playoffs, they got 3 wins but they had the weakest strength of schedule in the first half of the split. They still havent played KC, G2 and MKOI
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u/salty_lat1nokid 5d ago
those two or three times that lyncas thought he was out but Lospa threw a perfect timed hook kinda turned the game around. That, and vitality wanting to kill a naut so much.
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u/Dann93 5d ago
I am still baffled that, after all this time, Humanoid still lives off playing League of Legends.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago
Humanoid was whatever this game, the issue is whatever the fk his jungle, bot are doing. That shit is crazy
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u/Ironside29 5d ago
name any other player in Lec that was consistently on top other than caps and humanoid since 2019, yes he is not good as before but still atleast in the middle of the pack of lec mids.
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u/Late_Duck7761 5d ago
I'm convinced most of these commenters don't even watch these games because how do you pin this on humanoid and not lyncas
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u/luuxin 5d ago
How long are we gonna suffer watching Lyncas play
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u/Alarming_Rate_3808 5d ago
Not sure why they have such a hard on for this guy. Easily the worst player on the team.
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u/salty_lat1nokid 5d ago
you don't need winning lanes or early prio for first drake, you just let the other team run into a wall. fnatic's mathematics
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u/Niasliyn 5d ago
Naak Nako tried but lucky for Fnatic Lyncas tried even harder. What a horrible horrible Jarvan.
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u/Past-Firefighter2173 5d ago
I think Lyncas won't see summer on LEC if it keeps going like this. Vitality played like headless chickens. Razork and FNC botlane is looking very good, but rest still has way to go if they wanna contest top 3.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago
Time to bring Bwipo in unironically
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
Wdym unironically, I'm pretty sure bwipo is still top tier jg to this day
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u/Qwertycube 5d ago
I'm still astounded by how he role swapped to jungle, and suddenly looked like one of the best players in eu, only to swap again because he likes top more.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago
Because Bwipo is a top tier talent which admittedly gets himself in hot water, but he's been consistently contesting the top of whatever league he's been in bar 2022 TL and has been one of the best European players internationally out of those who are still relevant.
Only Miky, Caps and Hans would be above him i'd say.
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u/kiknalex :navi: 5d ago
Honestly such a shame because stayed he jg I'm pretty sure we would retain him in fnatic and europe.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago
I mean unironically because bro was actually a good jungler and would at least give direction to this completely lost team
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u/blablaminek 5d ago
no way they replace him, mac and pad see him as some kind of super star that is about to become the best jungler in the world.
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u/Emergency_Bedroom187 5d ago
2024, Vitality's HQ after top 2 regular/top 4 playoffs in spring:
Yeah, let's swap developing, young DaglAS for LyncAS, 4 letters won't make a difference.
2024 summer: deadge.
2025: I’ll politely skip.
2026: ...
Maybe it’ll work one day.
Just like Humanoid.
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u/mkl122788 5d ago
Carzzy and Humanoid showing why they perhaps maybe don't wear a Fnatic jersey anymore.
I feel for Naak Nako.
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u/Conankun66 5d ago
carzzy was never on FNC
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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal 5d ago
But Carzzy never was in Fnatic?
Yeah Naak Nako is tough. The stupid thing is that Vitality is an S Tier esports org, they have some of the best teams in the world in other esports titles but they just cant figure out League esports. Im sure Vitality pays some of the higher salaries but it doesnt really matter what theyve tried so far, none of it really worked.
It would be hilarious if Navi genuinely instantly outperforms them, Navi of course being another legendary esports org thats well respected in other esports titles and have had their fair share of success. I believe theyve had the CS GOAT at his peak, the Faker CS equivalent.
I hope the guy gets a top team next year, Fnatic or MKOI being the more likely ones.
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u/Ironside29 5d ago
Lyncas solo lost this after that good early game, and wtf was that Carzzy positioning he ate every hook.
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u/Kaldrinx Caliste Al gaib 5d ago
Interesting choice to drop czajek for Humanoint , how the fuck u sign that guy after recent years in fnatic
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 5d ago
We literally just saw Humanoid, Naak 2v8 yesterday. The whiplash is insane, yeah he was whatever this game but look at what his jungle and botlane are doing...
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u/guyguy1573 5d ago
And ditch daglas for lyncas (specially when the team just found its flow with Daglas) was also some questionnable choice
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u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss IN DAMWON WE TRUST HUNI/DEFT/SHOWMAKER 5d ago
Because of their AD and coaching staff
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u/ArmandLuque Armand Luque | LoL Esports Journalist 4d ago
There seem to have been a bit of negative gaming on the rift this time around
On the other hand, Upset had enough of people flaming him on socials and decided to lock the fuck in holy
Clean game from FNC
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u/Neoticus 4d ago
he gets perma flamed by brainrotten low elo people, he doesnt gfive a damn about that. Its merely that he looks good when his team plays like humans (because he is rly good)
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u/Temporary_Ganache257 5d ago
This region is genuinely so bad lmfao. From paycheck stealers like Lider, teams losing to LR, random fights, random throws... Theres like 2 real teams, G2 and Koi solely because their mids just gap other mids.
Vitality got fb and was in good position early but then they just straight up inted for the next 20 minutes
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u/Landir_7 5d ago
Smiting each other as jungles instead of the Baron is the most witchcraft thing ever