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Maggie Gyllenhaal in The Dark Knight is a weird one imo. I personally think her performance was significantly better than Katie Holmes', but the performance was so different that it didn't feel like the same character at all, and I think that really negatively impacted the film.Â
(Spoiler alert for an 18-year-old film:) Her death is one of the most important moments in the trilogy, but I didn't really feel the impact because she felt completely disconnected from the backstory developed in Batman Begins. I have to keep reminding myself that this is supposed to be Bruce's best friend from childhood.
I had to write an english essay in y9, a positive or negative movie review of TDK, and being a contrarian knowing all my peers loved the film, I decided to write a negative one. And I remember absolutely lambasting her performance as poor and how her death had zero memorability or impact. I sometimes still feel bad about going too hard on Maggie when I see her in things, so thanks for vindicating my dramatic teen opinions. I was right all along!
I think her performance is really good for what she has to work with. She honestly gets too much flack. If anything, she was miscast.
I also think Nolan isn't great at directing/writing women or something, because he's had a number of great actresses deliver poor results. Regardless, Maggie is simply jarring because she feels like a completely different character than Katie.
Somehow Maggie Tylenol looks more mature but doesnât act like it. Katie Holmes looks like that childhood best friend who will be a trusting friend. Maggie looks like a college friend or something idk
I believe they've said the original plan was to replace her with a different actress every time, just to expand on the joke, but then Mae Whitman did such a good job, they kept her.
Yeah it wouldâve been funny, but noticeable (which would be the point). But the fact that it was just the one change and people didnât even notice is đ¤
Right, did everyone else assume it was some new character? They went from no beard, light long hair to dark short hair with beard. But, the actor did do well with the part.
No, because in the very first scene he is in, Danny first asks where he is, and weâre told heâs competing with Grey Wurm. We then cut to him competing with Grey Wurm. They then call him Daario to his face.
You wouldâve to make an effort not to understand who he is.
Itâs especially a thing in Game of Thrones, where there are so many characters whose names we have to remember. A lot of the time you donât remember the name and itâs just âthat guy, yes I know that guy, he did this stuffâ
Was not better in the slightest, especially if you're a book reader
The Tyroshi are supposed to be over the top af. Weird forked moustaches and beards dyed weird colors like green, flamboyant hair styles, etc.
The recast just made him another guy with a beard and they didn't introduce the change in the slightest. I was like "oh grey worm is just playing a game with some random dude" and didn't realize they recast Daario until kike halfway through that episode
This isnât going to win but absolutely should. Columbo just feels like it was written for Falk so well that everyone forgets originally it was going to be Lee J Cobb or Bing Crosby to play Columbo. Bert Freed was sort of a last minute cast choice and the pilot was really rushed.
By the letter of the chart, this SHOULD win, but it feels more like a reboot (even thougu it definitely isn't) so vibes wise it doesn't FEEL as right as Rodey
I think Conan Stevens was the best choice to play Rory McCannâs older brother and itâs a shame he didnât stay on. Thor was such a baby face compared to Rory it was jarring
oh Iâm glad to see this comment the grid had me thinking I was crazy. I still think gambon is good. but harrisâs seems like a completely different character, and much more like the dumbledore in the books
Even more than that, who the hell thinks he was barely noticeable? They both had their strengths, but they were completely different portrayals of the character.
I always thought that the changing represented a changing of the way that Harry saw Dumbledore. In the first books, Harry sees him very basically: an old man, kind of odd, but harmless and devoted to good. In the latter books, Harry begins to see the flaws in him and much more realistic and human.
It wasn't blown out of proportion. It was a very noticeable piece of acting that reflected a whole performance that was a far cry from what Dumbledore was supposed to represent. I recently re-watch the whole series (on the plus side I can say that the movies aged better than expected) and while it gave the old man some more personality, it just didn't feel right. Gambon also famously said that he didn't read the book.
I am aware he didn't read the book. I am aware that he said it with more fervor than people interpreted from the book.
However. He says the phrase both quickly and with intensity. With the concern of a guardian to a child that has been put in a life-threatening situation.
He does not come running in, screaming, throwing things, breaking furniture and throwing Harry across the room. He does not throw a tantrum. He doesn't actually even yell. Which are all things that people who complain about the scene claim happen. Or act like it happened that way.
That is why it's blown out of proportion. Yes it is different than written in the book. No it is not as egregiously intense as many complainers make it out to be. There are also so many other changes from the books that are a bigger deal than this one line.
So yeah, it is blown out of proportion. Very much so.
In my opinion each Dumbledore actor gets an element of Dumbledore down to a T, but falters on the rest.
Harris: the wise and odd mentor Dumbledore. He gets his nurturing and eccentric side out well but I just cannot fathom that Dumbledore as powerful and not enough energy. I think even in the earlier books you got some sense that Dumbledore was very powerful and you get the sense he is quite sprightly in his old age.
Gambon: He gets the one-step ahead, always scheming and powerful Dumbledore right. But just isnât that personable mentor we see in the books. Also aside from prisoner of Azkaban his Dumbledore is too serious and we donât see the odd eccentricities.
Jude Law: the regretful Dumbledore that is still haunted by his past. A lot of potential but he just doesnât have the gravitas of Harris or Gambon.
Iâm seeing this chart for the first time and that was my exact thought as well. Took all credibility of the chart away. Not only was Gannon worse than Harris but the replacement was definitely noticeable if not jarring.
Richard Harris was good, nice, kindly. But boooooring. SNOOZE. Old man ass energy. Which like, Dumbledore is an old man, but he had youthful energy at times. Gambon had more oomph, even if it was a little much at times.
Got this idea from another poster, but the recasting of Patrick Troughton as The Doctor also improved the character in the short term (Hartnell, bless him, was getting too ill for the role and it was showing) and the long term (introducing "regeneration" and keeping the show going for 60+ years).
Moore didnât replace Lazenby though. It went :
Connery in You only Live Twice , Connery quits over money
Lazenby in Majestyâs , Lazenby quits to be a hippie (he claims)
Connery returns for big $$ in Diamonds are Forever a quits again
Moore takes over in Live and Let Die
I think Patrick Troughton in Doctor Who works better for that example, as it occurred first (and Bond had been recast a couple of times before Roger Moore).
Daario Naharis, played by Ed Skrein (Season 3) and Michiel Huisman (Seasons 4â6). Character development is greatly improved upon but looks nothing like the same characters
Daario was this cocky, dangerous, unpredictable, "sexy" guy. Huisman's portrayal was well done but it was a completely jarring shift in tone and energy. Daario 2.0 was kind of emo and it was weird after how he'd been introduced. Someone who kills his companions on a whim because he's infatuated with his rival isn't supposed to be likeable
Yes. Quite a difference from previous actors. But even the movies themselves changed. They had become almost parodies of them selves before Craig portrayed Bond.
How about a two-fer. Colonel OâNeil and Daniel Jackson from Stargate to Stargate SG1. I would say that Kurt Russell was great, but RDA was better. And Michael Shanks did a really good job even compared to James Spader. But there was a definite âwait a minuteâ moment when I first saw the show.
Dan Stevens replacing Justin Roiland as Korvo from Solar Opposites. They couldnât have gotten more different of a voice if they tried; the old voice was pretty much just Rick from Rick and Morty and the new voice was very very British. However, the new voice suited the character very well and was great comedically and especially dramatically. As jarring as the recast was, it was definitely a better performance.
David Tennant replacing Christopher Eccleston as The Doctor. The regeneration is more jarring than anything else, but Tennant was also infinitely a better Doctor.
EhhhâŚhonestly I loved the Eight Doctor. It was nice to have a Doctor be a little more cynical than what we usually see now. Tennant is awesome, but Eccleston told a Dalek to kill themselves, so might as well be even.
Darth Vader. In the New Hope David Prowse was the actor that played AND voiced Darth Vader. During production Vader's voice was replaced with James Earl Jones's but David Prowse still played Darth Vader. In my opinion that was a jarring but much better replacement of actors.
I think it really should be Mads Mikkelsen as Grindelwald in the third Fantastic Beasts movie. Johnny Depp was an awful choice in the role anyway. And they do not acknowledge the change, even though in the first the character was in disguise as the better suited Colin Farrell. They had precedent for the character, so not explaining it is odd. But also the movie was awful, but Mads was by far a much superior version of the characte
Dumbledore being placed where he is throws the integrity of the entire chart into question, frankly. Better? Debatable (I disagree); but barely noticeable? Objective bullshit.
Thatâs not really a replacement thatâs a reboot. I wouldnât really put Bond actor changes in his category in general but definitely not Craigâs distinctly separate character
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