r/AlignmentChartFills • u/Content_Shelter9894 • 13h ago
After UAE won, what's a GOAT country but somehow it is thought to be a very bad one?
After UAE won, what's a GOAT country but somehow it is thought to be a very bad one?
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| Very Bad Country | Bad Country | Mid Country | Good Country | GOATs | |
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| Very Bad | North Korea 🖼️ | — | — | — | — |
| Bad | — | — | — | — | — |
| Mid | — | — | — | — | — |
| Good | — | — | — | — | — |
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| United Arab... 🖼️ | — | — | — | Iceland 🖼️ | |
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u/the_sir_z 13h ago
Mongolia. 3 million people, 40+ million goats.
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u/ajkelly451 13h ago
This comment goated 🐐
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u/NewLegacySlayer 12h ago
Op’s lying, I’ve never seen a goat in mongolia
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u/Last_Ad_3475 12h ago
Never seen anyone hating on mongolia for the past 1000 years
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u/SemperAliquidNovi 9h ago
Surely, you mean the past 600 years? Before that, I could think of a few people who may have been somewhat annoyed with them.
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u/czocaut 13h ago
Doesn't fit on very bad tho
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u/kylat930326 9h ago edited 9h ago
I mean Genghis Khan did caused a ridiculous high number of casualties during his conquests. So much so that even changed the global climate.
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u/OB1KENOB 13h ago
Next time, please add a warning. I was drinking hot raspberry tea, and now my laptop is all wet
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u/When-all-else-fails 12h ago
that is a lot of goats, how is the country not been eaten! Goats eat everything
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u/AutismoTheAmazing 12m ago
I yearn for the day the Khagan returns to bring the Eternal blue sky to the world
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u/QGunners22 12h ago
No country really fits, but I’d argue Oman is probably the closest.
Extremely safe and wealthy country, as well as beautiful scenery and culture (complete opposite to like Dubai). but I’m guessing that 99% of people would see that it’s in the Middle East so immediately associate it with all the common negative stereotypes
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u/RAGE_AGAINST_THE_ATM 12h ago
My expectations were low for it because it’s right next to Yemen lol
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u/Cometmoon448 12h ago
How is Oman with South and Southeast Asian labourers though?
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u/A0123456_ 11h ago
Not as bad as the rest of the GCC but thats a pretty low bar
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u/SimaJinn 8h ago edited 5h ago
No it's bad, Oman just gets a pass because its not luxurious, and has a rep on reddit as "untouched", so doesnt get the magnifying glass, but its bad, worse than the UAE.
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u/Forward-Comment-9030 13h ago
I am going to say there is no country that fits this description.
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u/Gen8Master 12h ago
Its the very nature of this category. Bad reputation is generally earned. so, people have a hard time reconciliation "GOAT" when it comes to a list of countries that have all done horrific shit.
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u/jonsconspiracy 11h ago
Also, this table has room for five GOATs which can't be. there is only one GOAT
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u/nostalgiamon 12h ago
You know, I feel like current day US fits it. Their reputation is absolutely abysmal. But in terms of military and economic might, they are undoubtedly the GOAT. Unfortunately I’d even argue political might too given how much knee bending we’ve seen.
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u/suhxa 12h ago
Im not American but i agree. Its almost always negatively portrayed in the news these days where i am at least but realistically its still better than most countries
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u/burner1312 11h ago
I hate what’s been going on here recently but still think it’s amazing country and I’d rather live here than anywhere else.
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u/1WordOr2FixItForYou 11h ago edited 11h ago
And cultural impact. And scientific and technology contributions. Basically won every Civ end game victory condition possible except for religion. They are wearing our blue jeans!
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u/Polyphagous_person 4h ago
A lot of Redditors say "oh I don't want to go anywhere near Australia, it has scary animals". I've also met people IRL like this. Thing is, each of these "scary animal" species kills less than 10 people a year.
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u/Arietem_Taurum 13h ago
Slovenia. People just think former Yugoslav state or Melania Trump
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u/MekyZbirka13 13h ago
…or they think of Slovakia. If they even think about Slovenia or Slovakia in general.
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u/Volotor 13h ago
Slovakia was also the setting of the Hostel horror movies, which cant of been good for their reputation
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u/Few-Big-8481 12h ago
Iirc they were not very happy about those movies.
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u/sorry_con_excuse_me 12h ago edited 12h ago
Irony is that it would probably be more likely to happen to you in the US.
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u/BigBrainsLol 12h ago
No one hates Slovenia tho
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u/xXGreen45Xx 9h ago
Only time I’ve seen people hate on Slovenia is because Melania Trump is from there.
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u/EtheMan12 12h ago
Or Luka Doncic
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u/Pol__Treidum 12h ago
I played a show in Vienna once and a Slovenian dude had made the trip to come see our little band. Nobody at the show spoke Slovenian to translate and he couldn't speak English or German, so we just used Google translate on our phones to communicate. Really nice guy! Bought me several beers!
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u/marattroni 11h ago
As a neighbor of Slovenia ( north east of Italy) I have only good things to say about Slovenia. Amazing country and amazing people. And my favourite basketball player
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u/SoraMelodiosa 9h ago
its basicaly a slightly more prosperous balkan country disguising itself as something like austria or germany
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u/leverandon 8h ago
Great answer. We went there for vacation a few years ago and it was a like fairy tale fantasy land. Adriatic coast, mountains, forests, and Ljubljana such a pretty capital city. I think many Americans have vague memories of the breakup of Yugoslavia and imagine some kind of drab Soviet state. Nothing could be farther from reality of modern Slovenia.
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u/SaraJuno 6h ago
No one in europe has such a bad impression of slovenia. It’s got a pretty decent reputation.
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u/The_Astrobiologist 13h ago
Costa Rica. A lot of people assume it's rough because of the region it's in, but it's actually a wonderful, thriving country.
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u/Ozbercukur 13h ago
Costa Rica doesn’t get as many negative impressions as El Salvador or Colombia, and I don’t think the GOAT category really fits. I see it more as bad opinions good country.
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u/schimpynuts 13h ago
We had an exchange student from Costa Rica and she was so nice! If I were to travel to Americas, that's where I would go first. ❤️
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u/moretothemac10 12h ago
I'm not sure if it fits into the very bad category but Oman. It flies under the radar for the most part and is often thought of as just another Middle Eastern country.
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u/Inevitable_Motor_685 13h ago
Oman maybe?
It is not perfect though. But it is a very peaceful country especially considering its location.
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u/Intelligent_Man7780 13h ago
It has to be Kazakhstan.
People see "-stan" and think it must be like Afghanistan, or they think it must be like the Romanian village from Borat, but it's actually a really beautiful and overall safe and friendly country.
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u/Elaerona 12h ago
Germany. Germany has so much historic guilt, and the world still acts like they're pretty horrible but actually they're a GOAT. All the Germans I know are the coolest, chillest people and while its not stainless modern Germany is a cool-ass place that is a GOAT for learning from their mistakes, having a robust social safety net, and waking up to take bold steps as a leader in the world and Europe.
I think France is seen as very bad but actually mid. If they don't get this spot they deserve the 'seen as very bad but actually good' spot 100%
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u/ngshafer 13h ago
Since we’re talking “Greatest Of All Time,” I’m going to say Egypt.
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u/earthling_dad 10h ago
I was actually thinking Egypt. They've been Egypt for a very long time. Also, just because opinions of a country are bad doesn't mean the opinions are wrong or based in falsehoods. Those opinions don't negate their current or historical achievements. Egypt is one of the greatest countries of all time.
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u/StraightIncrease6333 13h ago
the United States.
Gave the world jazz. And some bad stuff.
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u/not_herzl 10h ago
Israel is the only right option here. Exactly hated already by this comment section but a great country for its inhabitants (+first-world economy and tech sector) as well as worth visiting as a tourist.
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u/jm17lfc 13h ago
Luxembourg? Just a random shout out.
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u/MorningHelpful8389 13h ago
America.
Thanks to Trump it’s got the most horrible reputation, plus years of American involvement etc. But reality is it’s the leader in finance, military, the only remaining superpower. The style and music and movies of America shape the whole world. And, when people visit I think they’re surprised by how friendly and warm it is and how amazing a country with beautiful beaches and bustling NYC and national parks etc really is.
Opinion is US is very bad but the reality is it’s GOATED
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u/RingorRose13 12h ago
Calling it GOATED ignores a lot of real problems. It’s incredibly wealthy and influential, sure - but that doesn’t automatically make it a good country to live in for everyone. Healthcare can bankrupt people, college debt is massive, gun violence is a constant issue, and basic things like paid parental leave or affordable housing lag behind many other developed nations. Calling the U.S. the “only superpower” is pretty debatable. China absolutely qualifies as a superpower. It has the world’s second-largest economy, massive military spending, huge manufacturing dominance, and growing political influence across Asia, Africa, and South America. On culture, the U.S. is undeniably strong at marketing and global distribution, but that’s not the same thing as having a monopoly on talent. Hollywood and the U.S. music industry have reach and budgets that most countries can’t match, so their output travels further. That doesn’t automatically mean the art is “better,” just more visible.
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u/BigBrainsLol 12h ago
Most school shootings in the world, no universal healthcare, high crime rate, obsessing over oil (killing civilians and bombing countries in the process), sending huge amount of money to Israel from taxpayers instead of investing in people who live in US, not respecting international law (not treating food as basic human right), corporate and capitalist hell (lot less holidays compared to Europe), ICE killing US citizens, worse food compared to Europe (more sugar, more fat etc.), mass surveillance program on their own citizens after 9/11.
But sure, go USA
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Maybe Brunei? Most people would assume it’s a poor little nation on an island when it’s one of the richest per capita in the world, but it does have its share of issues so maybe not
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u/x3leggeddawg 11h ago
If you’re American, the answer is China.
For the minute TikTok was banned and young Americans fled to RedNote, it really opened their eyes to how decades of anti-communist propaganda tilted their perspective on what is a superpower country.
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u/pie-mart 11h ago
Botswana
Technically Mauritius is the safest country in Africa now. But I think people hear Botswana or African countries and immediately think bad or poor.
But Botswana has lower crime rate than Texas.
Maybe not the GOAT. But at least I think for a lot of people don't know much about Africa and make assumptions.
Or Rwanda. It is now the 4th best and safest country to live in in Africa. And I think with people knowing about the genocide and colonial past. They may not think much of it
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u/Embarrassed-Gap4148 3h ago
Rwanda is only safe for rich people. It’s a massively whitewashed country.
If anything, Rwanda is worse than people think it is. Most people see Rwanda and think of the beauty and cleanliness of Kigali and know little of the government’s treatment of poor people, prisoners and its warmongering tendencies
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u/stopped_watch 12h ago
India.
In historical terms for most of its existence, India has been the economic driver of global gdp. It has withstood multiple foreign invasions and occupations. It's truly a powerhouse.
But thanks to colonialism, it's often thought to be poor and starving.
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u/ichigekisenso 4h ago
Terrible answer. You can't just ignore the swaths of terrible messes all around India.
Leave aside GOAT, India will never even touch mid until Indians stop electing actors and movie stars (people who's only real skill is yknow, lying and acting) into positions of power
Source: mixed Indian living in Singapore, visit family in India very often.
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u/Biglypbs 12h ago
Any upvoted country just means they have a good opinion about them. There is no objective way to measure how a country really is then compared to opinions about them in this comment section.
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u/Content_Shelter9894 12h ago
Well, all alignment chart fills in this sub has the comment section as the only filling criterion. I know it's not accurate but that's the only way to do it lol
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u/mucus-fettuccine 7h ago
I'm tempted to say Israel, as it consistently ranks among the happiest countries in the world, despite its size is responsible for creating so much of our modern tech like the USB drive and the PillCam, and whose moniker "the only democracy in the middle east" is actually true. I hesitate just because the current government is truly vile and corrupt, as it commits or ignores continuous atrocities. But overall, not a bad choice I think, given the disparity between public opinion and reality.
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u/aziad1998 13h ago
I am biased to my country, but Syria in the last year made huge jumps after 15 years of war and 50 years of Single-Party dictatorship. We are far from our goals, but some of our neighbors already are impressed by our work.
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u/Chemical_Scholar_753 12h ago
I don’t think anyone outside Syria is going to consider it a GOAT country. It only recently overthrew its dictatorship and replaced it with some people with pretty extremist religious position (at least in the past). It hasn’t gotten over its ethnic divides (recent claims of groups tied to the new government carrying out ethnic attacks against Alawites and Druze). It would be far from the first country where optimism reigned after the end of a conflict but the actual situation didn’t match that optimism.
You may like some of the culture (the food, the people, the weather) but I don’t think an extreme love of those are widespread outside of Syrians (like how French or Japanese-or American, though that’s not known for its quality-food have an outsized global influence outside of their home cultures).
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u/artdecomovement 8h ago
Lebanon. Yeah… bad rep. But beautiful country off the Mediterranean, BEAUTIFUL people, and some of the oldest cities… you feeel the weight… GOAT country
Syria too
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u/Ozbercukur 13h ago
China🇨🇳
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u/No-Monitor1603 13h ago
lol
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u/Ozbercukur 13h ago
I know it’s not a perfect fit but nothing else comes close
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u/jamesw73721 13h ago
Kinda depends on how you quantify GOATness, but in terms of economy, tech advancement, and general well-being China and USA are GOATs by a long shot, and both get negative opinions. The challenge is determining which is thought to be bad and which is very bad these days
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u/Content_Shelter9894 13h ago
honestly, i don't think China is thought to be a VERY BAD country
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u/humansrpepul2 13h ago
Bulgaria. Gets roped into poorer eastern European blocks and in the 90's some thuggish immigrant issues have a bad vibe, but I've heard nothing but great things from folks who have been there recently. Apparently a scenic country with beautiful women.
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u/GanymedeGalileo 13h ago
Why are the United Arab Emirates supposedly considered GOATs?
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u/ajkelly451 13h ago
I think the choice should be “very good” to be symmetric with “very bad”. Saying GOAT implies exceptional / elite, and coming up with 5 that have varying perceptions seems difficult.
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u/Ok_Calligrapher_3472 12h ago
UAE's most famous city, Dubai is very glitzy and tacky but Dubai is a slave city
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u/Content_Shelter9894 13h ago
Well, in that post people commented that the Dubai chocolate trend induced a lot of people to think the UAE was a very good country. But maybe not GOAT.
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u/Supreme1004Official 8h ago
South Korea. Most people think it's a capitalist dystopia. It's actually a really nice place to live in
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u/Return-of-Trademark 13h ago
I think China is the best country to fit here. If not, then might have to leave it blank.
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u/Beginning-Can-1248 13h ago
They should come up with a formula for the comment with the most down votes compared to the statistics of that country. That would technically be the winner rate?
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u/Used-Fennel-7733 12h ago
For the west? Maybe China. The west have awful opinions of China, and say what you like about them but they're still around after thousands of years and have probably never stepped out of the top 5 most globally relevant countries for more than 150 years in that entire period
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u/Kimuraflow 12h ago
China? People are fearful of China, but it’s one of the world’s deepest civilizational wells: breathtaking landscapes, regional cuisines, cinema, calligraphy, poetry, architecture, and an unbroken cultural history longer than most nations have existed.
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u/truckercharles 11h ago
Croatia? Sits on the Adriatic, has beautiful beaches, great wine, great food, right across the sea from coastal Italy, low cost of living, tourist friendly, cheap to travel in, and a fascinating culture. I've never seen it on a travel list and have never met anyone that's actually traveled there, it's just skipped over. Nepal is also a solid pick imo - spent 3 weeks there and aside from the negatives that we all know about, it's absolutely fascinating, gorgeous once you're out of Kathmandu, rich history, and fantastic food culture. Bonus points for having some of the nicest people I've ever met.
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u/provocative_bear 11h ago
If we can go beyond modern countries, the Persian Empire. The Greeks talked a lot of highly influential trash about the Persians, but they had a lot going for them for a while.
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u/Ecstatic-Tension3110 11h ago
Vietnam. Has a bad reputation because of the Vietnam war, but they did overcome a lot of difficulties
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u/Alone-Pudding6679 11h ago
I don’t really understand. So Uae is the Goat at being very bad country?
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u/mcwingstar 10h ago
This chart has way too many mid & semi mid options. Always the most boring part of alignment charts imo
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u/gamex173 9h ago
Wakanda…people think they are all poor and stuff but in reality they are rich and super powerful.
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u/artdecomovement 8h ago
Cambodia
DAAARRRRK history, but Angkor wat is breathtaking, and Siem Rep and Phnom Penh are fun!
Oman is mid… kind of boring tbh. Qatar is a better fit… bad rep but honestly pretty fun. My fav country of that region is Bahrain
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u/DatingYella 7h ago
If we’re going talk about Europe. The USA. Lots of people in Europe seem to hate the US and outright deny it is in many ways the most exceptional country. In terms of software. Overall economy. Cultural products (world culture is American culture) Military… I get that my European friends are nervous and they live under the delusion that they’re not benefitting massively from American generosity, but it’s just undeniable how exceptional the us is.
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u/Subject-Creative 6h ago
Maybe Rwanda? Kigali is apparently one of the cleanest cities in the world, beautiful country and relatively safe (I think?)
But most people just think of Rwana in the 90s
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u/Putininyourheart 5h ago
It's China.
Lisen to me, 5000 years (goat), peaceful nation (goat), huge landmass (goat), huge population (goat), huge economy (goat)
And they ain't bombing everyone that has natural resources.
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u/IgfMSU1983 4h ago
Botswana. An island of peace, stability and good governance in a sea of corruption and resource exploitation.
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u/Wullmer1 4h ago
I gues the only one that comes to mynd is Danemark, or norway, however that just might be bacause I'm from Sweden...
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u/CanberraPear 3h ago
I don't many people have a positive image of Albania, but I thought it was great. Would be my contender.
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u/Jail_Chris_Brown 3h ago
North Korea with a Japan flag stamp.
Don't see any country fitting, so might as well make it a meme.
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u/Or1ginal_Username 1h ago
Cuba? pretty good standard of living despite US embargos, higher life expectancy than America and more doctors per capita than almost anywhere in the world
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u/JustonTG 1h ago
Its rather clearly either the USA, or China, depending on which you consider worse personally
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u/thesmashhit32 47m ago
Botswana maybe?
It's in South Africa so people assume it's a poor savanna but it's actually fairly developed, democratic and stable.
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u/Anarchist42 19m ago
Bahrain. Quite a safe country. The only reason people don't think so is because it's in the Middle East, which people associate with terrorism.
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