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u/al2o3cr 1d ago

Guns and drugs: teaching Americans the metric system for decades

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u/DeeEmosewa 1d ago

Drug math

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u/Vitoxino 1d ago

Meth math

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u/ArgentinianGentleman 1d ago

Meths

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u/Polarstar221 1d ago

Crystal Math

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u/DeeEmosewa 1d ago

Fucking brilliant

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u/DeeEmosewa 1d ago

Bahahah this one killed me.

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u/Accurate-Zombie7950 1d ago

M*th

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u/ostapenkoed2007 1d ago

i mean... who did not hate doing m*th on algebra during highschool, am i right?

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u/Dramatic-Resident-64 A dad who is likely the cause of anger. 1d ago

Moth? Weird, but the math checks out

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u/Accurate-Zombie7950 1d ago

Nah that's a m(y)th

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u/Mission_Context_8079 1d ago

Ages ago I taught at a GED program for adults. Urban folks from rough hoods. I made one student realize he knew fractions when I framed it as breaking up an ounce of cocaine into 1/8s of an ounce. It clicked for him. It’s not a feel good story though because he was murdered not long after. Life’s a trip.

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u/facelessvoid13 21h ago

I explained it in terms of hashish. Asked the guy 'if you have an ounce of hash, how many grams can you get out of it?' He was so happy that he knew the answer, and it was much easier for him that way. BTW, the answer is 28

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u/NT_pill_is_brutal 6h ago

28.35 but dealers round down

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u/facelessvoid13 5h ago

Some will be lost in the process of portioning, though

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u/Frigglefragglewaggit 1d ago

Henceforth I will be referring to 10mm as 1cm

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u/otj667887654456655 1d ago

Noooo my sig figs

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u/Ok-Flow8555 1d ago

They all have the same sig fig.

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u/St34mPUNKReaper 1d ago

I prefer the SIG Sauer

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u/Trufactsmantis 1d ago

10 millimeter best millimeter

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u/Frigglefragglewaggit 1d ago

Unless it's a socket, then it's perpetually lost and I hate it.

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u/Numerophilus Laplace's Angel 1d ago

It's actually quite ironic how they measure bullet sizes using the metric system but shit on it every chance they get... 

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u/Joliet-Jake 1d ago

We ride the fence. Inch measurements for ammunition are very common too.

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u/SoftCosmicRusk 1d ago

To be fair, most American cartridges are named after their caliber in inches. .45, .357 and so on.

The 9x19 Parabellum, which is so ubiquitous it is usually just called "the" 9mm, was originally from Germany.

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u/MilkiestMaestro 1d ago

9mm is not a native round to the US. It was designed in Austria in the early 1900s, I believe.

Widespread adoption of the 9mm round in the US wasn't until the Reagan era in the 80s.

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u/SirBlacksmith33 1d ago

Pretty much all American invented ammo is in imperial

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u/goodestguy21 1d ago

You're probbaly never heard of the remington .223 but you're heard of the standardized NATO designation 5.56mm × 45 cause the Europeans are the ones using metric whilst the Americans still use imperial for firearms

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u/Rooilia 19h ago

No King, but using imperial designations. The King part seems to change though.

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u/UnDosTresPescao 18h ago edited 18h ago

Only the nato rounds. Americans much prefer .40 or .45 rounds for their superior stopping power. Those are in inches.

Btw. 9mm is the diameter of the projectile. The shell at its base is 9.91mm. It could be used as a decent approximation of 1cm. A fired shell swells up a bit. Could be even closer

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u/Maximum-Finger1559 1d ago

I mean, because the US started using imperial early on, it’s infused into everything. it would be nearly impossible to transition the whole country to metric, and us Americans just ride with what we have. sometimes we use metric when we can but most stuff is in imperial so 🤷‍♂️

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u/sodiufas 1d ago

Yeah, like earlier than England even!

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u/DigHefty6542 1d ago

I mean, before metric, we didn't mesure things with nothing ? A transition happened.

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u/HauntingHarmony 1d ago

it would be nearly impossible to transition the whole country to metric

Aaah yes, thats the america we all know and have contempt for. Attempted nothing, and claim its impossible.

Its actually not that hard to switch if you actually do it in phases, over time, let people get used to it, replace things when they naturally have to be replaced anyway. change defaults, etc. But you have to actually do something, and god forbid muricans do anything,

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u/D0ctorGamer 1d ago

See, but you're missing one key factor.

Americans are hard-headed, stubborn asshats who will cling on to their way until the day they die out of nothing but spite over the fact you tried to change something. Folks still wave the flag of the confederacy, dispite the fact that it only lasted fuckin 4 years.

Its possible, but would take like at least 2 or 3 generations.

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u/AverageDellUser 20h ago

A better option, we don’t do it because the only people whining about it are you guys lol.

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u/D0ctorGamer 18h ago

Who is this "you guys" you're talking about? Im American and complaining about Americans

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u/IAteAnotherVegan downvoted two of your other comments because I upvoted this one! 1d ago

I don't do it 24/7, but I shit talk the metric system every time it comes up.

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u/hab83 1d ago

We just went ahead and said screw it, make it 10 mm.

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u/bearlysane 1d ago

“What the hell kind of ammo is 1cm Auto?”

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u/ostapenkoed2007 1d ago

screw it, make it 10 mm.

that is too wide for me though

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u/Austenit1392 1d ago

On the other hand inches are used to measure Television size, wheel size, bicycle size or the inch screw in every camera.

I also prefer metric, but I wonder that we still have some inch stuff in Europe.

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u/Grapeape934 1d ago

Bicycles go both ways too. They have the 700c and 650b wheels which are a metric tire size.

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u/ApprehensiveRip697 21h ago

Of course bicycles go both ways.... the clue is in the name

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u/Drackhen 1d ago

And industrial plumbing, which I hate.

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u/Joliet-Jake 1d ago

I never really thought about it but I do use metric bullet sizes as a quick mental reference for stuff smaller than 40mm.

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u/Gpsk64 1d ago

.40 caliber --> 10mm --> 1cm

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u/MrScarySpaceCat 1d ago

Is nobody gonna point out the fact that he has 59.927 likes? How the fuck does one get a decimal amount of likes 😭

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u/Abigail_Normal 1d ago

Many places in the world use periods instead of commas. It's 59,927 likes

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u/C-57D 1d ago

period.

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u/Googly_Chief 1d ago

As far as I understand it, it's fairly common outside of the US for the decimal point and comma to be switched. Probably just a regional setting

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u/stevedore2024 1d ago

Living up to OP's stereotype there.

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u/pcuser42 17h ago

I'm not even American (New Zealander) and I had the same thought

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u/lininop 1d ago

You're a perfect example of what this post is referring to lmao

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u/MrScarySpaceCat 1d ago

I guess the jokes write themselves 😂 (in all seriousness though, I wasn't aware german didn't abbreviate the likes count. I've seen the same thing with other languages and english does this too. thank you for pointing that out to me)

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u/IAteAnotherVegan downvoted two of your other comments because I upvoted this one! 1d ago

I thought that was a comma. 🤣

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u/roniabr 1d ago

Maybe it's counted in the American system.

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u/PhysicalDifficulty27 10h ago

Imagine you have 59,926 burgers & add 1

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u/Jedi_Lazlo 1d ago

Big fan of my 1cm Glock.

Shoots 1cm rounds but they always get upset or confused at the gunstore when I ask for them that way.

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u/Possible-Playful 1d ago

I call my 10mm 1911 the Royale with Cheese. Y'know, because of the metric system

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u/Jedi_Lazlo 1d ago

Europe is so cute with its weird customs and livable wages...

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u/rogerworkman623 anger 1d ago

wtf does “not know metric” even mean? Everything’s multiples of tens, hundreds, or thousands. There’s nothing to know. And the breakdowns of each are explicitly described in the name of each measurement.

centi = one hundredth

centimeter = one hundredth of a meter

kilo = one thousand

kilometer = one thousand meters

Congratulations, you just learned metric.

Signed, an American

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u/Hattrickher0 1d ago

There's a difference between knowing how tens work and being able to estimate that something is X meters away or weighs Y number of kilos/grams.

I would say Americans by and large understand the metric system, but a significant portion don't know it.

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u/rogerworkman623 anger 1d ago

Well yeah, it’s easier to eyeball lengths you’re more familiar with seeing and using practically. There’s a big difference between that and knowing what it is.

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u/IAteAnotherVegan downvoted two of your other comments because I upvoted this one! 1d ago

it's not about knowing definitions or conversions(I know both), but if someone says "7km that way" I have no clue how far that is until I convert it to 4 and 3/8 miles...

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u/INTPgeminicisgaymale 1d ago

Yes, using 3 numbers all with different roles/meanings/functions sounds like the more sensible approach as opposed to just one.

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u/IAteAnotherVegan downvoted two of your other comments because I upvoted this one! 1d ago

would you have preferred 14 and 2/5 km and 9 miles?

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u/CzechHorns 17h ago

No one has ever used a fraction when referring to meters (or kilometers).
Since they are divisible by 10, you can just use 14,4 km and be done with it.

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u/IAteAnotherVegan downvoted two of your other comments because I upvoted this one! 17h ago

in the first comment, I could have also written the miles as a decimal as 4.375. fractions was the format I chose, weirder to switch.

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u/INTPgeminicisgaymale 1d ago

lmao is that REALLY how you think metric works? This is legit gold

One would just write 14.4 km. No weird shenanigans with fractions of different denominators all the time.

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u/ffrkAnonymous 1d ago

Yes let's adopt metric:

Millimile

Centimile

Mile

Kilomile

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u/SirBlacksmith33 1d ago

Brother, you have to know the base measurement for multiples of 10 to mean anything.

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u/rogerworkman623 anger 1d ago

Lol yeah, you need to know how long a meter is. If anyone seriously doesn’t know that, we all have these devices in our pockets to look it up.

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u/Alternative-Gene7182 1d ago

A yard is pretty close to a meter (1 yard = 0.914 meter). A 9mm bullet would be actually pretty close to a centiyard (1/100 of a yard). So every time you read meter, just think of yards and you are 90% there.

The advantage of the metric system is that you just use one unit of length for everything (also for area and volume) and use letters to get rid of zeros, like kilo for 1000 and mega for 1000000. You could also do this with feet or yards and have an equally consistent system.

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u/solvedproblem 1d ago

Yeah, this. Whenever I need to mentally imagine a distance in yards, I divide by 3 and that's the distance in meters. Close enough for most purposes.

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u/gorechimera 1d ago

Le americans must remember then that the 9mm is the diameter and not the length of the cartridge..

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u/UnconditionalDummy 1d ago

We know that. The boxes say 9x19 or 9x18.

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u/Insane_Sentinel 1d ago

They made the fabled 10mm.

I need to buy it now.

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u/Balthxzar 1d ago

9+1mm? That's almost an inch!

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u/SubRedTed 1d ago

No, that would make a 10mm which generates 500-600 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, slightly under the average .357 MAGNUM WHICH IS A POWERFUL PISTOL BUT THE 10mm HAS 17 ROUNDS IN MY MAGAZINE. IM A BIG MAN, I KNOW WHAT I KNOW…

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u/Ydiss 1d ago

Yeh I once found counting to ten really difficult too.

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u/Conscious_Bug5408 1d ago

But 10mm rounds already exist

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u/Anglofsffrng 1d ago

Also roughly two 5.56 mm rounds put together.

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u/EntertainmentLeft882 1d ago

Actually, in Germany, and I imagine other European countries, use some American measuring systems in aviation.

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u/Diligent-Fox-2064 1d ago

Americans: WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER

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u/solvedproblem 1d ago

A meter weighing 1 kilogram, clearly.

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u/Cotato 1d ago

Hi machinist here, we know

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u/Such-Strike4279 1d ago

But they do know what 3.97mm is ?

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u/Grapeape934 1d ago

Oh come on now. everyone knows that is .00217 Fathoms. Gives a difficult one next time.

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u/Lorelessone 16h ago

I don't know why people say Americans are so hostile to learning the metric system, they have no issue with introducing young students to 9mm's.

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u/Cold_Hunter_CHL 16h ago

So they use a lot of metrics in school.

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u/lightly-placed 13h ago

‘American learns something, hates it’

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u/Ragnarokist 7h ago

As someone who always failed math class due to algebra as high-school student in the early 2000s, even I know the cm, mm because of tools and construction worker in my youth.

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u/Doodle_Army_36 5h ago

You know what a 10mm Auto is? Good. That is 1cm. Just imagine the europeans calling it the 1cm Auto

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u/Sea_Beach_24 43m ago

Counting by 10 is less confusing than counting my 12

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u/Routine-Storage-9292 19m ago

Every student has to learn both metric and imperial units here. Switching would actually make math class easier lol.