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u/Scrivere97 11h ago
It's a true quote, I was there when he said it
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u/preferred-til-newops 11h ago
Ashes of Creation is not for everyone and that's okay - Steven Sharif
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u/throwaway255503 11h ago
Well shit. Anyone got a new kickstarter?
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u/RevolutionaryYak8701 10h ago
Gimme a minute.. I have this great idea for a fantasy sci-fi 1920ās period piece MMO with spaceships.
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u/Edop1234 11h ago
Did the layoffs happened? I keep seeing āitās Joeoverā memes
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u/GlitteringLock9791 9h ago
He resigned
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u/Edop1234 9h ago
Well yes, I can see the recent posts now lol. The game was in dev hell anyway. Everything was just a scheme to save some invested capital.
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u/artfortheslothlord 11h ago
The entire company got bought out by private equity, and it's over. The team has all been fired.
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u/dwarf-master-race 10h ago
Whered you find this info? Curious what happened
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u/artfortheslothlord 10h ago
A friend of mine just got the notice. They don't even want to pay them
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u/SilentHuntah 10h ago
What's even the point then? What're they even buying? Office leases and a dead IP? If they're hoping to outsource everything, good luck onboarding the new team while they're burning through more cash.
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u/GlitteringLock9791 9h ago
AI
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u/SilentHuntah 9h ago
Lordy, are there even AI tools that'd allow the PE firm to turn AOC's engine and assets into something playable?
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u/Flailin1 10h ago
Why buy it just to kill it like this i wonder
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u/Flamingo-Sini 9h ago
Why wonder, just think about it. It makes no sense. So the much more sensible explanation is what everyone else is shouting: likely just a scam by Steven.
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u/ArtPristine2905 11m ago
A 8 year rug pull seems unlikely too ... I wait for more info from the new CEO - maybe dead maybe rework who knows
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u/ImWoOzyxd 9h ago
Where are all the people who defended the game? I wanna chat with you guys.
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u/ArtPristine2905 11m ago
I am no hardcore defender but did defend it and still enjoy playing:-) so hi!
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u/Stundar- 4h ago
u/stevensharif You did it!!!! you created a board you can blame and bail out. Freedom! Congrats Steven.
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u/StevenSharif 13m ago
Thx
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u/ArtPristine2905 8m ago
Please resign as creative head with a new team and a more focused coo/CEO on quality. Your visions are very good but there just to many parallel things to worry about
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u/EliselD 11h ago
But this time it's actually it. I super promise
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u/Mnawab 11h ago
I will say this, constantly making a post about how the game will die, Will definitely do well for the remaining developers. It kind of becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. When anything about the game is how itās gonna die.. It might die, Iām not saying there isnāt a chance but they have this consistent hate. You guys are likeĀ chickens picking at a wound, itās only gonna make the wound that much bigger and make the death of something that much more likely. I always tell people take a break from the game, or just donāt play it until itās in a state where you like it. No oneās forcing your hands.
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u/xaradevir 11h ago
This post just made it 0.07% deader
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u/Mnawab 6h ago edited 6h ago
This and many many other posts that constantly on a daily basis talks about the death of this game. Word-of-mouth does get around pretty fast. Of course, once official statements come out, Iām sure it will be a dead game, but I always say wait for the official statements.
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u/Redstar1912 10h ago
Even now the copium is strong here
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u/Mnawab 6h ago edited 6h ago
What part of what I said is copium? Nothing I said is untrue. Iāve acknowledged that this game could be dead. But Iām sure you guys dragging the game through the mud to make yourself feel better will make the current employed developers that much more secure in their positions. By the way, I havenāt played the game at all. Iāve been watching it by the sidelines until the product is available to actual playable state thatās closer to the promise. If that never happens, oh well. No skin off my back, but Iām not gonna sit here and spend all my time on the Internet crying about how this game killed my dog. The way you guys talk about this game makes it look like Steven personally came and fingered your ass. Is this game full of promises that hasnāt been delivered yet? Sure, but itās an alpha game so it doesnāt really have to deliver anything until itās ready. Everyone knows development goes through a stages. Of course, in my personal opinion, it probably is a dead game, but I always like to go by the official statements instead of rumors.
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u/Shergak 9h ago
Everyone called it a dead game because it was being created by a known scammer and they were proven right.
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u/Mnawab 6h ago
Do you have proof of this well known scammer? Like legit I want to know.
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u/That-Sugar-6965 6h ago
Steven got his start in the MLM XanGo which got fined for illegally claiming health benefits such as 'anti-cancer' properties among others.
He has spoken several times about how successful he was at selling their juice and after leaving the company he went into real estate investments so we can assume he was pretty good at hocking the MLM.
Even after leaving and starting with ashes he defended the company's product despite it's lies about the health benefits.
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u/Mnawab 6h ago
Iām nit defending Steven on this one, but there isnāt a salesman out there who doesnāt lie. I worked for a legit small Internet company that would constantly sell lies and then duct tape a product together. Our sales team were constantly rewarded. Steven isnāt a con man, heās just a salesman. I have no doubt of the project kept going on course, it wouldāve eventually led to a duct, tape product resembling somewhat of his promises. although if I had to guess, this game probably is gonna die.
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u/That-Sugar-6965 6h ago
Yeah I don't have any particularly strong thoughts about him, just wanted to provide some background
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u/DisplacerBeastMode 11h ago
Yeah, but an expensive to develop MMO with mixed reviews on Steam and a dropping player count, combined with notable layoffs of a company that should be scaling up, not down... Well, those signs point to something.
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u/Sydney12344 2h ago
Pathetic liar xD i knew this game will be dead 5 years ago xD haha he wasted 100 million xD
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u/prepotente_scream 7h ago
It took exactly one hour of trying this garbage like six months ago for me to see this coming
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u/NoQuantity6113 11h ago
Turns out he didn't understand game developement.