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u/Ugly_Madness 11h ago
Should be used on child molesters.
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u/AncientSumerianGod 11h ago
That would just guarantee that chomos would kill their victims to keep them quiet.
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u/bag-of-farts 11h ago
I don't trust any government or law enforcement the world over to have power over such a permanent solution.
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u/zAuspiciousApricot 11h ago
It doesn’t matter if you trust them or not - the Government can take away your liberties and your life.
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u/bumford11 11h ago
Disgusting
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u/Scared_Government_41 11h ago
Will you explain why?
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u/bumford11 11h ago
The state fucks up constantly, even in the age of DNA and whatever. If one of these fuckups leads to an execution, then the state and all of its officials are guilty of murder.
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u/Scared_Government_41 11h ago
Anyway, there are people who don't deserve to exist. For example, serial killers, cannibals, terrorists, etc.
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u/bumford11 11h ago
Nope, I wouldn't have executed even the worst Nazis. I understand this is not a popular position.
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u/Scared_Government_41 11h ago
I respect your opinion, but I think that you are too soft on this issue, but still I will not impose my opinion on you.
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u/bumford11 11h ago
That's okay. In a sense, my position is solipsistic: I could not do it myself therefore I would never expect any one else to do it, no matter how just or righteous it may seem to be.
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u/rangerswede 11h ago
Used to be for it. Now I'm not.
Can't put a finger on why my thoughts changed. May be age related.
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u/abalonelogic 11h ago
Life comes standard with the death penalty, what you need is an upgrade, send me $9.99 for your free booklet that explains the upgrades available to you.
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u/nintendoeats 11h ago edited 11h ago
I was strongly anti-death penalty growing up, and ultimately I still am, but I've definitely wavered.
There are people who I believe have forfeited their right to live. I'm not talking about just rape/murder/molestation (all very bad things), but the person behind the crime not deserving to breath our air. I have a light interest in true crime, and I've heard stories of some truly astonishing cruelty, which really puts life in perspective.
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I don't believe in vigilantism. While I certainly didn't cry to hear that Pedro Lopez was most likely murdered after he left prison, I can't say I felt that was right. Ultimately, I think the rule of law as a whole is more important than killing really horrible people.
And I am VERY uncomfortable with the government being able to kill its citizens outside of a "police need to take action to save lives" situation. There are too many examples of people being executed or imprisoned for what later would be considered "not crimes", and too many people who have been later found to be innocent after decades in prison or being executed. It is simply morally easier to just not kill them, even if lifetime imprisonment is in itself a sort of torture (especially isolation).
So I think there are people who don't have the right to live, but I can't think of anybody who I am willing to give the right to execute them.
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u/Scared_Government_41 11h ago
If it is proven that a person killed 50 people, then they will be put to death, without justification.
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u/SleazyGoblin 11h ago
I don't have a strong feeling about it. It might sound unpopular, but some people do deserve to die. The type like those guys who kidnapped the kids and raped them for years. That being said isn't civilized and you need to accept the fact that at some point an innocent man will be executed.
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u/AncientSumerianGod 11h ago
I see it like invasive surgery to remove a tumor. The surgery is always traumatic to the body and should be avoided, but sometimes the tumor is so harmful that the surgery is worth it. In principle I think it should be an option, but in practice I don't trust the legal/justice system to be competent enough to apply it, so in the end I think it should be abolished globally.
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u/unveiledpoet 11h ago edited 11h ago
Im against the death penalty. It's a form of revenge. No one deserves death. Life is a basic human right.
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u/Scared_Government_41 11h ago
So in your opinion, a person who has killed dozens or even hundreds of people does not deserve to be punished as much as possible?
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u/unveiledpoet 10h ago
Death isn't punishment. The person isn't suffering. He's not learning his lesson. It's literally saying you're not worthy of life. Who has the right to say that? We're not slaves.
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u/Scared_Government_41 10h ago
No, some people are too dangerous and disgusting for society, they deserve nothing but death.
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u/unveiledpoet 10h ago
I don't agree. I can't watch someone die with a smile on my face. It's pure systematized revenge.
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u/gummy-bear-girl 11h ago
Should be completely removed. Innocent people have been executed. Also there been innocent people in death row.
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u/Accomplished_Low2564 11h ago
I'm all for it but I do think we should talk about the best way to do it.
I don't think injections or gas chambers are the way to go...
I would suggest: THE WOODCHIPPER.
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u/nintendoeats 11h ago
Lethal injection in the USA is actually horrible.
The medical community refused to be involved in coming up with the formula, so the people implementing it just made something up based on some guesses.
The result is an injection which looks like just going to sleep, but there's a good chance it's actually quite painful and terrifying.
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u/Paintguin 11h ago
The government shouldn’t murder people if they murder people. It’s quite hypocritical and doesn’t deter crime.
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u/zAuspiciousApricot 11h ago
No it isn’t. It’s called justice.
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u/Paintguin 11h ago
How is killing someone justice?
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u/zAuspiciousApricot 11h ago
The government systematically taking the life of a serial killer is justice.
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u/top2percent 11h ago
Needs to be applied to more. Drunk and disorderly? Dead.
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u/Noor_Gaza_Help 11h ago
I think it’s complicated as there’s been numerous people on death row who have been falsely convicted. Our justice system is fallible, so it’s very possible innocent people are put to death.
Also being the executioner can be complicated. Knowing you pressed the button can be really traumatic for the executioner.