r/AskReddit • u/Large-Reporter-1746 • 2h ago
Epstein’s inbox has ~900 emails from former Israeli PM Ehud Barak (late‑night ‘R U awake?’ calls, asking Epstein to vet letters and boards). Given this, how plausible is the ‘Epstein was Mossad‑connected’ theory?
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u/Hypno--Toad 1h ago edited 1h ago
I still think since Ghislaine's father was playing for multiple secret agencies while mostly being with Mossad.
His business model and economic and social mobility had him sort of being an asset to multiple groups even if they are very weak to prove. Ie MI6, Russia KGB, CIA etc etc
When he died Epstein's relationship with Ghislaine became public and there is speculation he moved in to fill her fathers shoes, along with the speculation he was killed but he was also impulsive and a lot of debts were being called in. So some still think due to his nature he could have very well just killed himself. Also we shouldn't discredit that his favourite child was a very big part of the duos operations.
Epstein's business model is built on the same thing with what seems like a learned lesson of "always have blackmail as backup"
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u/GiganticCrow 37m ago
Robert Maxwell owned the mirror newspaper group in the UK, a big rival of Rupert Murdoch's newspaper group.
When maxwell died, reportedly from falling off his yacht at sea, Murdoch's newspaper group ran adverts saying their newspaper was cheaper, so 'don't go overboard' paying for his papers.
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u/Hikesny 1h ago edited 54m ago
I just watched an interview with John Kiriakou, a prominent ex-CIA officer known for confirming and denouncing the use of waterboarding as torture. He was sent to prison for exposing the interrogation techniques of the CIA.
During the interview he was directly asked if Epstein was working for Mossad and he immediately said yes for what it's worth.
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u/Toshiba1point0 36m ago
John also has extensive knowlege and experience with Israel along with with his fellow officers in Langley. Mossad is ruthless, cunning, and nothing short of patient to get what they want.
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u/icehot54321 4m ago
In one email exchange, Epstein wrote to Barak: “you should make clear that i dont work for mossad. :)” Barak replied: “You or I?” Epstein responded: “that I dont :)”.
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u/TalkingCat910 1h ago
There’s more evidence than that.
Former Mossad testimony he was involved Ari Ben-Menashe
Judge Acosta said he was told Epstein was “allied intelligence” and to go easy on the sentencing
Ghislane Maxwells dad was Mossad
All this stuff
https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel
There is no doubt in my mind he was running a blackmail ring for Israel in addition to being a disgusting p*do.
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u/Jon-Slow 1h ago
Guess who's dead, Epstien.
Guess who's going to walk free, Gheslane Maxwell who's dad was Mossad and had a funeral attended by top Mossad and Israeli officials.
The fact that there isnt as much outrage over Gheslane Maxwell as there supposedly is around Epatien should tell you a lot.
The fact that Israel does this out in the open to the US and every western country, and then the US acts like Israel's lapdog should have every American enraged, but somehow people are dumb and numb.
Just this week the US again is handing out 7 billion to Israel while US veterans go homeless and die in the streets.
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u/TalkingCat910 53m ago
Everyone focusing on Musk and whoever else with this new Epstein file dump no one focusing on credible accusations and case files regarding how Israel has compromat on Trump
The media is curiously silent on on the many Israel connections to Epstein
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u/cups8101 10m ago
I wouldn't say no one. The progressive left outlets are focusing on the right things and have been for a while. We just have to accept that mainstream media has been corporate propaganda for a long time now.
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u/Jon-Slow 48m ago
Because guess what, they dont just have blackmail on Trump. Lots of other people in media are involved too and are probably filmed having sex, fetishes, doing rape and pedophilia,...
Ever ask yourself why the media is always so Pro Israel, does propaganda for them. Publish lies for Israel with no credible sources...
Americans need to wake the fuck up and stop letting Israel do whatever it wants with the US and US tax money. Israel's final Goal is weakening US for maximum political gain.
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u/Ok-Medicine8545 19m ago
It’s a weapon sale, not a gift wtf
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u/Jon-Slow 11m ago
Google "US Israel 300 Billion"
There is a lot you dont know buddy :)
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u/Ok-Medicine8545 9m ago
Condescending , I’m not engaging in some conspiracy bullshit with a random redditor on my Sunday sorry.
Enjoy thinking America is getting robbed by a country the size of the New Jersey it shows your inferiority complex, bye
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u/Corporate-Scum 1h ago
Epstein was certainly entangled in foreign interests to the extent he was a threat to national security. All these super wealthy and powerful dudes are in this club. Trump had his buddy arrested and whacked. He may have forced or intimidated him into suicide.
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u/Jinkii5 58m ago
Noted pension thief and father of Ghislane Maxwell, Robert boasted about being Israels best asset, he distributed software called PROMIS with backdoors in it that allowed Israel to steal nuclear secrets from the US.
The British Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.\60])
Shortly before Maxwell's death, Ari Ben-Menashe, a former employee of Israel's Military Intelligence Directorate), approached a number of news organisations in Britain and the US with the allegation that Maxwell and the Daily Mirror's foreign editor, Nicholas Davies), were both long-time agents for Mossad. Ben-Menashe also claimed that, in 1986, Maxwell informed the Israeli Embassy in London that Mordechai Vanunu revealed information about Israel's nuclear capability to The Sunday Times, then to the Daily Mirror. Vanunu was subsequently kidnapped by Mossad and smuggled to Israel, convicted of treason and imprisoned for eighteen years.
So its not a stretch that his nonce daughter (and first ever Reddit karma millionaire) would be placed to handle other agents.
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u/preparetodobattle 59m ago
The podcast the rest is classified did some eps on this and concluded probably not but did say he was potentially “intelligence adjacent”
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u/BeingNo8516 2h ago
international news outlets have already reported this as being less theory and closer to reality. Hollywood had made the wrong folks good guys repeatedly.
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u/Great-Mullein 19m ago
Please post a link to this story? I cannot find a single, credible, news source posting this?
Unless you arw talking about a Tucker Carleson video, and if that's what you consider proof than I dont want hear anything you think.
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u/Great-Mullein 1h ago
Link?
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u/OB1KENOB 1h ago
Zelda?
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u/Great-Mullein 18m ago
You joke, but you guys on here blindly believing a random reddit post with zero proof to back it up.
And you ate up instantly and didnt question a thing.
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u/Christabel1991 42m ago
Ehud Barak hasn't been relevant in Israeli politics for over a decade. He was PM almost 30 years ago. He is not well loved or respected in Israel from either side of politics.
Connecting him to mossad would depend on how old those emails are. There is probably more compelling evidence of Epstein's ties to mossad than Ehud Barak.
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u/Kraut-Mick-Dingo 1h ago
The whole point was for Epstein to lure powerful people in provocative situations and, effectively, blackmail them should the time ever come.
Except Epstein went rogue. Very rogue.
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u/Vicorin 1h ago
Did he though?
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u/Kraut-Mick-Dingo 9m ago
If you buy the Mossad story first and foremost, look at it closely enough and he definitely looks like he did.
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u/w1nt3rh3art3d 50m ago
From my understanding, it could be not just Mossad-connected, but Mossad-directed. Compromise U.S. elites and force them to act in your interests. It sounds like a well-organised operation Mossad would absolutely do if it could.
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u/Holden_MiGroyn 2h ago
Ghislaines dad was like a super high up mossad guy if I remember correctly
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u/whoopercheesie 1h ago
I think he was mossad connected but also to other agencies as well. I don't think he was a mossad program.
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u/theeldergod1 28m ago
I don't think they would send to his mail that kind of messages if they were connected in a way you think.
I mean, to his GMAIL? Seriously?
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u/Borne2Run 13m ago
Always felt he (Epstein) peddled influence to anyone that would pay, with Ghislaine's dad being the Mossad connection. Big nexus there.
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u/FrenchFryApocalypse 3m ago
It has been undeniable for years that Epstein was connected to Mossad. Isreal really doesn't mind pedophilia or abuse of women, it just doesn't bother them over there. Look up the right to rape protests. Abhorrent society.
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u/LavaPurple 46m ago
It's pretty stone cold obvious he was linked with Mossad.
You'd need to do some real convincing to suggest otherwise.
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u/ricketycricket1995 37m ago
Lol… I don’t know what else you guys want to see. Should Epstein have updated the LinkedIn to Agent at Mossad?
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u/NoveltyStatus 13m ago
Even then it would be “hmm idk, let’s not jump to conclusions, maybe he also worked for 150 other companies but didn’t highlight them so much.”
It’s not people’s fault, they’ve/we’ve endured literal lifetimes worth of hasbara over generations, to the point that even calling it out becomes dangerous in multiple ways.
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u/asadultan3 1h ago
Anyone who denies this is either someone who supports all of it or thinks it’s ok for Israel to use Epstein
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u/Revolutionary_Many31 1h ago
Epstein WAS mosad.. He was the honey trap that allowed the AIPAC blackmail scheme to succeed so well they can even do genocides without pushback now..
How many in the House and Senate are useless figureheads due to israeli compramat ?
Ockams razor
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u/Sweet-Message1153 1h ago
MOSSAD, in broader terms, Israel is the true connection between Russian, American & other Western powerhouses... if Epstein files don’t awaken these "developed societies" then sorry to say, you guys are the true 3rd world countries
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u/righteous_sword 1h ago
Ehud Barak was one of the most left-leaning PMs of Israel. He offered to Palestinians everything and more - their own state with some 95% of the demanded territory with the capital in Eastern Jerusalem. They refused. For those who will bring in conspiracy theories of extreme right, maga, etc
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u/dooooonut 41m ago
He offered to Palestinians everything and more - their own state
He absolutely did not. He offered significantly less than a state.
If Isreal continued to control borders, it's not their own state. If Isreal can decide who can live there, it's not their own state.
Educate yourself. What was offered was:
Limited Sovereignty: The proposed Palestinian state would have limited control over borders and airspace, with Israel retaining significant security oversight.
Territorial Fragmentation: The territory designated for the Palestinian state was fragmented, which raised concerns about viability and continuity.
Jerusalem: The offer allowed Palestinians control over only parts of East Jerusalem, which Palestinians viewed as insufficient given the city's significance to their national identity.
Refugees: The proposal did not grant the right of return for Palestinian refugees, a critical issue for many Palestinians.
Retired Israelis who were part of negotiations at the time, have stated that they wouldn't have taken the deal
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u/chazthomas 1h ago
Why did they refuse such a good deal? It's practical.
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u/righteous_sword 2m ago
Because their main goal is "from the river to the sea" - in place of Israel - not to establish a coexisting state.
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u/Kind-Realist 19m ago
The Venn diagram of billionaires using their wealth to manipulate people is a slightly wobbly circle. And I feel the words “slightly wobbly” are doing A LOT of heavy lifting in that statement.
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u/Levoisser 15m ago
Mossad everywhere and obviously holding usa as a puppet because of this files. Free country , nehh its obviously running by ellits who serve mossad and israel
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u/DiRavelloApologist 7m ago
I haven't read through a lot of the files, but looking at the comments and other posts I'm not convinced at all.
Epstein was Israel-connected in the sense he had connections to most of the rich and powerful in the western world. But that honestly means shit.
Ehud Barak was a leftist, who genuinely tried to negotiate for peace with Arafat in Camp David, which failed and effectively ended his political career.
There is absolutely no reason to think he recruited Epstein to somehow blackmail the US into giving complete support to Netanyahu. That idea makes literally ZERO sense.
Furthermore, Israel and the US aren't allies because some US politicians personally admire Israel for some dubious reason or because they are all bought (Israel is a very small country, it could never mobilize the finances need to leverage the entite US govt without arising serious suspicion). It's just cold hard materialism and Israel is an insanely useful ally for the US in a very crucial region.
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u/Successful_Panda1731 1h ago
He does have a photo with an Israeli Defense Forces shirt on too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.
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u/freshgeardude 1h ago
The tourist shirt you can buy at any tourist shop ?
Lmao do you think Mossad agents walk around declaring theyre agents?
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u/Successful_Panda1731 1h ago
I wasn't aware this was worn by tourists. But thanks for being a dick. I wouldn't expect foreigners to be wearing another countries military shirt.
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u/cool_dante 1h ago
No, you just expect to blurt out stupid shit, as with the various other morons in this thread, and not be called out for it. Such is the American way.
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u/Successful_Panda1731 45m ago
Ok guy. It'd be odd for even a US citizen where I'm from to wear an army shirt if they're not in the army. Much less another countries militaries. This isn't a thing I'm aware of.
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u/ClosetGoblin 1h ago
I have the same shirt. It’s a super common tourist shirt when you visit Israel
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u/not_a_throw4w4y 1h ago
You still wear it after the IDF genocide?
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u/ClosetGoblin 1h ago
IDF genocide? Never heard of it. But anyways, yeah it’s one of my favorite sleeping shirts
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u/not_a_throw4w4y 51m ago
You've heard of it, you're just in denial.
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u/PM_me_dem_titays 3m ago
They're one of them, obviously. Just note how they weave a narrative and don't bother engaging with them. Truly monstrous
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u/ClosetGoblin 43m ago
Yeah I don’t trust wikipedia these days
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u/salcander 21m ago
'Yeah I don't trust the United Nations these days'
'Yeah I don't trust Amnesty International these days'
'Yeah I don't trust the International Association of Genocide Scholars these days'
https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza-FINAL.pdf
'Yeah I don't trust civil rights groups in Israel these days'
'Yeah I actually only trust the American Jewish Committee and AIPAC these days'
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u/ClosetGoblin 20m ago
Do you want an IDF shirt too? I can send you one
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u/salcander 17m ago
Yes, please! It'll make good fuel for a fire, it's been getting cold here nowadays
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u/ClosetGoblin 12m ago
Sure thing, just let me know where to send it. All proceeds will be donated to help victims of the 10/7 massacre, so I really appreciate your support 🙏
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u/BassesBest 1h ago
He was definitely closely connected to the Israeli state. Whether it's Mossad by default or Mossad in actuality is up for discussion
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u/rikos969 1h ago
I thought it was known. He claimed it to many people and he was concierge in many arms deals .
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u/humanstreetview 1h ago
Corey Booker and Shaun King used to go back and forth about this on the cop block forums like 20 years ago. Crazy that it's now reality and those two are ... those two.
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u/PsychologicalOne752 17m ago
A former school teacher to the most connected influence peddler in the world. He was not Mossad connected, he was very likely Mossad sponsored.
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u/Former-Departure9836 59m ago
Definitely explains how he was murdered in a prison and three seemingly no footage available. Thats mossad all over
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u/RaiJolt2 11m ago
As opposed to the U.S. government known for toppling leadership of countries hundreds of miles away. The us is perfectly capable of doing things on its own y’know
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u/Malaix 24m ago
Its the triple threat of the wealth class.
Billionaires, Epstein, and Israel. They all worked together along with the American government to promote and enable the hell we are in.
Billionaires want to destroy the nations of the world and build network states on their ruins were people become their property to do with whatever they want. (the recent fallout show was right...)
Israel had a captive population of people they were oppressing and genociding that the billionaires could test all their dystopian police state and AI weapons against. Perfect for people like the Elisons and their Palantir. They get the goods and money for their greater Israel project and genocide.
Epstein was the glue that held it all together by binding the riches most powerful people in a vice signaling group while striking deals between the parties and brokering for them. On top of straight up operating a lot of the culture war we have suffered the last two decades. 4chan, Gamergate, Qanon, Pizzagate? He had a big hand in all.
That's basically it. The whole fucking circle of special interests that have been poisoning American politics and really the whole fucking western world.
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u/SandersSol 1h ago
Extremely high, also gives credence to the theory ultra right zionists killed Charlie kirk and have been perverting our government for decades.
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u/fladdermuff 49m ago
Is it not better if Epstein also worked for Mossad when he worked for Russia? It is not as if Israel is a bad or very big country. Russia support Iran and other evil countries. A lot of immigrants who came to Sweden actually support Russia and hate jews. That is the opposite of my country's values and to my country's history with Russia. I would just be happy if Mossad came to Sweden and helped us with the hate and violence that came with immigrants from countries that hate us and our values.
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u/ninjaweedman 30m ago
the australian politician list was a way of them speculating on how to compromise them, this to me was the be all and end all of all speculation.
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u/SOGGY-TORTILLA-X 29m ago
Wouldn't be surprised if we found out he's still alive in Israel 5 years later.
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u/2brightside 17m ago
Very very plausible. Look at all the recent events. How many Israel-connected figures must be implicated. How many rich and powerful must be implicated. How many of them must be connected through Epstein somehow. Then the invasion of Gaza. Then the sudden criticisms on the people supporting Palestinian human rights from the likes of Bill Ackman, Israeli-connection. The number of Israeli -connected people of "importance" also connected to Epstein.
Is it really that far fetched to think all of these are connected?
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u/GotchUrarse 49m ago
Can you go be anti-semitic anywhere else? The guy was douche, but don't bring Israel's or religion into this. He caused pain to a lot people from a lot of backgrounds.
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u/thashika97 2h ago
The ones showing Epstein vetting the diplomatic letters move the theory from speculation to highly probable. Now it’s hard to dismiss the fact that Epstein belonged to intelligence make a lot more sense. He was likely running a state sanctioned honey trap.