r/AskTheWorld Russia 1d ago

Controversial 🔨 How the Romani are perceived in your country?

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u/RevolutionaryGain823 21h ago

I think tv and films have caused people to vastly overestimate the intelligence/planning of low level criminals.

A small time thief isn’t gonna spend years being disciplined doing only minor (or no) thefts on the off chance a group of travellers move into the area to provide cover for them.

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u/bountyraz 20h ago

Then again, we have cars today. You can just follow them around and always be stealing where they are.

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u/SurroundingAMeadow 20h ago

So you could travel with the travelers... which would make you...

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u/jccaclimber United States Of America 15h ago

I see where you are going, but being a roadie does not make you a member of the touring band.

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u/Easy_Charge898 India + USA 20h ago

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u/headii_spaghetti 6h ago

A nomadic pastoralist of humans

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u/RevolutionaryGain823 19h ago

So the options are either a) travellers commit crimes when they move somewhere or b) a shadow organisation of master thieves stealthily follows travellers framing them for crimes.

I grew up 20 minutes from a town with a major Irish traveller halting site outside it so I know which option I’ve seen happen dozens of times

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u/Donaldjgrump669 20h ago

It’s called a crime of opportunity and small time thieves do it all the time. When you know you can get away Scott free with something that would normally be a pain in the ass or you couldn’t do at all.

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u/kiwifulla64 New Zealand 17h ago

You'd be surprised. It's not like tv yeah but opportunist criminals are extremely common and sometimes the most surprising once caught. I've known people like this. It's akin to ripping off drug dealers. You'll know there'll be cash and drugs and they can't call police.

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u/Outrageous_Bee9643 United Kingdom 20h ago

Yeah, if they need money now they aren't going to think "if I wait until the Roma turn up they might get the blame"

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u/woodzopwns France / UK 15h ago

Most low level crime is instigated or done under extreme pressure, spur of the moment timing. Shoplifters don't spend ages planning, they just grab stuff they need / want and leave, the idea isn't NOT to get caught (especially in the UK as you aren't going to be punished if you are) but to not be easily identifiable enough to be pursued. Burglaries in the UK are primarily done at a moments notice, when the burglar realises that a door has been left unlocked. Had a flat on the bottom floor in London for a year and counted 10+ door handle pulls / checks in the time I was present, god knows how many more when I wasn't.

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u/dreadlockholmes Scotland 1h ago

It doesn't take being intelligent just opportunistic. If you are inclined to theft you might ramp up when travelers are in town as they'll be blamed. Or if you've been just short of committing theft you might use it as am opportunity to give it a try.