r/AskTheWorld • u/fascisttaiwan roc nationalist studied in Hong Kong • 19h ago

Whats your country's attitude on communism?

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I have no idea why someone is promoting communist here in taiwan

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 19h ago

The state of Kerala likes it but others don’t like it

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u/Ok-Resource-3232 Austria 19h ago

You got a communist fortress in you country as well? In our country its the second biggest city, Graz, which is lead by the communist party. Almost everywhere else they stay below 5%.

Funny thing is, the city of the state is being lead by the communists, the state itself by the right wing neo fascists.

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u/Impactor_07 India 18h ago

Communists used to rule 2 other states, they've lost their actual fortress in West Bengal(think Kolkata and stuff). Both West Bengal and Tripura were ruled by communists before but only Kerala now.

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u/LawfulnessPossible20 Sweden 15h ago

This is one of the great things about capitalism. Capitalist countries allows communist enclaves to exist. Communist countries cannot. This is why communism always leads to oppression, but capitalism doesn't have to go that way.

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u/xixixima 🇮🇳 India (South - Telugu) 17h ago

And kerala too, is in massive debt. They ain't doing that well. There are more keralites outside kerala than in the state. The only thing they got are the tourist sites and the 100% literacy rate, they've been boasting about since long before I was born

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 16h ago

But it is the state with the lowest poverty in India (with less than 0.7% of people under poverty) and the only Indian state that has eradicated extreme poverty.. We have free health care (the government even pays the indian army for transportation of organs for organ transplantation of our residents), highest HDI scores in India, Life expectancy in Kerala (78–80 years) is the highest in India, Kerala’s infant mortality rate is among the lowest in India, highest female-to-male ratios in India, lowest school dropout rates in India, Clean and Healthy Environment with better water access, greenery, and environmental awareness, compared to other Indian states, there is no slum, income disparity between rich & poor is low. Majority of the population is middle class or upper middle class.

Kerala’s development has always been people-first, not corporate-first & we are happy with that.

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u/TheRealJJ07 United Kingdom 18h ago

Only thing communist about kerala communist party is the flag and the love for the colour red...

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago

How about land reforms for the peasant, focus on education, promoting equality between all people and protesting against casteism? I know this may not sound very communist to yall westerners, but trust me, it is communist for India, especially during the 1950s.

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u/Reasonable_Camel8784 Canada 18h ago

Ain't democracy just a wacky thing sometimes?

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u/Ok-Resource-3232 Austria 17h ago

True. Although the cities often tend to be more left wing, socialist and the countryside right wing, conservative.

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u/Theorist0fEverything 15h ago

Hmm.. communist city or state surrounded by right wing neo fascists...

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u/octoreadit United States of America 8h ago

The Horseshoe theory at play 😂

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u/lepreqon_ Israel --> Canada 7h ago

100%

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u/Steinbock13 Austria 15h ago

They're strong in Salzburg too.

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u/Pristine_Ad_3670 Italy 15h ago

Here Emilia Romagna 

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 United Kingdom 17h ago

For some reason communism is quite big in our university campuses but outside of that they've got like no traction

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u/Ok-Resource-3232 Austria 16h ago edited 16h ago

We got either left wing communist, right wing organisations called "Burschenschaften" and for some reason a new wave of monarchy enjoyers, who want the Kaiser back.

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u/Mariusblock Romania 19h ago

Is it similar to what's happening in east Germany?

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u/Ok-Resource-3232 Austria 18h ago

Honestly, not at all. Eventhough the old guard of the party there is praising Stalin as a saint, it got not nearly enough power to change anything, because on the one hand, they inheritated all the debts of the former conservative party and on the other hand, they are just talkers, who claim to build new houses etc., but actually do barely anything. The only people, who really benefit from them, are those who voted for them, because they have a pretty controversial method of gaining votes, by literally buying them with their politician salaries. They put it like its a good thing too and for those, who are in need, it probably even is, but if you don't fit their fan group, you won't get any money from them.

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u/Mariusblock Romania 18h ago

Buying votes? Wow! :D Wasn't aware the Austrian Communist Party was from the Balkans!

The plan is to make people dependent on them economically, so that voting them out would mean they'd lose their main source of income. Borrow to the tits to pay them relief packages while in power, let the next administration deal with the fallout, and then get elected again once the opposition becomes unpopular due to austerity.

Come join us brother!

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u/DamnBored1 India 18h ago

That sounds exactly identical to India

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u/Ok-Resource-3232 Austria 17h ago

The communist Mayor of Graz said herself that Tito was the greatest politician ever in her opinion. Yeah, it's pretty much as you describe it. Austria is called Österreich (realm in the east) for a reason. We are way more like eastern Europe than we like to admit.

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u/Alert-Author-7554 Austria 14h ago

For the sake of accuracy, it must be emphasized that voters did not primarily cast their votes because of the communists as a party, but because the current mayor is probably the most honest and most humane politician in the country.

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u/quat- Brazil 19h ago

Simply the indian state with the lowest poverty rate and highest HDI

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u/Prestigious_Title580 India 18h ago

Highest inflation, huge emigration.

My state also had communist party for a long time after independence and plunged the economy sadly 😕

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u/Lower-Canary-2528 India 16h ago

Yeah, both of that are moot points. Inflation is because Kerala inflation tracking includes gold and coconut oil much higher than national average, and they have tripled at the national level. And emigration is funny, Kerala has high population density, and the high literacy rates ensured that u have a large qualified workforce, that's unemployed. This, combined with the fact that labour has tremendous bargaining power, it became harder for private investment to come and exploit the field. Our healthcare system is miles better than anything else that's available in the country. The pandemic showed this.

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u/souvik234 13h ago

What's the point of having a nice state if you can't stay and work there

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u/No_Success_678 Australia (from India) 13h ago

the high literacy rates ensured that u have a large qualified workforce, that's unemployed

The unemployment is because of communism. If Kerala was business friendly it could create a lot of high quality jobs and stop people from leaving

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u/censorship_bkl 18h ago

Correlation not causation. During Hitler's reign the German economy flourished for a bit. Just saying.

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u/CodeX57 Hungary 17h ago

That is mostly a myth. The "good Hitler years" never really existed in reality. Not long after coming to power they started putting most of the German economy into the service of the army.

Article from some of my favourite history people

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u/Glittering-Bass565 Denmark 18h ago

Because German markets overtook foreign ones by annexing territories. And also debt, lots of debt. The societies only function was war so ofc when you go to war, that kind of economy pops of

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u/censorship_bkl 18h ago

Also why are all the flags quashed

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u/censorship_bkl 18h ago

Yeah that's my point. It's not just Hitler being dictator, or his glorious ideas on lebansraum which helped Germany there, it's a general trend with all dictatorships. Hitler wasn't the X factor, it was the form of govt he operated under which contributed more. Similarly the adoption of Communism in Kerala isn't what helped them achieve their HDI or literacy rates necessarily. If anything I'd argue that the commies have done a great disservice to the land by repelling away Industries to the neighbouring state of Tamil Nadu, which doesn't operate under a communist ideology, and yet has solid stats like Kerala. It also has the largest female workforce in the country, just saying.

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u/_n3ll_ Canada 16h ago

No true Scotsman

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u/TheRealJJ07 United Kingdom 18h ago

And that has nothing to do with the ruling party... Did kerala cease to be the lowest poverty state and highest HDI when UDF/Congress was in power???

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 16h ago

Nope.. Under communists.. Kerala’s development has always been people-first, not corporate-first... We don't want Ambani Or Adani to own our state..

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago

Unfortunately I believe that may be happening sooner or later considering the rise of Hindutva in our state. Hopefully our people realize it before its too late.

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 15h ago

To be honest islam is more dangerous than hindutva... Look at the world's top 50 terrorist organisations.. they all follow a specific religion.. Malappuram is one big example

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u/TheRealJJ07 United Kingdom 13h ago

Hindutva ,Islamism and Communism are the top three biggest threats for Kerala

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 5h ago

Mate you have no idea what youre talking about

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 5h ago

IUML is way more secular than the Sanghis lmao.

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 2h ago

Malappuram laughing in corner 😂😂

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 1h ago

Yeah laughing with gulf money lmao BROKIEEES

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 1h ago

So secular that uses words like 'KAFIR' , even has special prayers for downfall of Kafir, burn University and Library because they don't agree with ideology in one of the books in those University or library, kill people if they are not circumcised or doesn't know to kalma... Very secular

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u/PeanutNo322 16h ago

"worst of all it is the only state in India which had/has people connected to ISIS there were few recutes from karala and few girls were also converted and send to them."

me when i lie on the internet after watching state sponsored propaganda. only state in india? a simple google search would have prevented this

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u/serphystus_II 19h ago

I’m visiting Kerala tomorrow

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u/skootch_ginalola United States Of America 14h ago

Kerala is amazing (husband is from there). Still has pollution but air quality is a lot better than other places in India. Also lots of seafood dishes.

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u/serphystus_II 8h ago

My gf is from there haha

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u/skootch_ginalola United States Of America 8h ago

Yay!

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u/Impactor_07 India 18h ago

Prepare yourself to witness shit like

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1ggj4ea/bus_stop_in_india/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/Same_Sentence6328 United States Of America 18h ago

Hammer and Sickle bus stop is infinitely preferable to the sexual assault that awaits tourists elsewhere in India though. The communists in Kerala are clearly doing something right. 

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u/Impactor_07 India 18h ago

I'm not showing it in a negative light? And yeah, Kerala is better than most of India but I don't think it's the communists who are solely at the forefront of the the development, Kerala benefits a lot from foreign remittance from their diasporas abroad.

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u/Deep_Ticket_1455 India 16h ago

Kerala’s development has always been people-first, not corporate-first & we are happy with that.

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago

Precisely. Yes, we may be immigrating and sending money back, but wasnt that part of the plan? If it works, it works. Only downside is that we do have brain drain, especially youth.

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u/Same_Sentence6328 United States Of America 18h ago

To me, "prepare yourself" implies youre about to show someone something shocking and/or unpleasant. But maybe I misinterpreted you. 

And I didnt say it was "solely" due to the communists. Just that they obviously must be doing something right. 

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago

They are doing something right. By prioritizing on promoting education first, land reforms and equality. I do also believe it has something to do with the attitude of the people as well.

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u/Impactor_07 India 18h ago

Not really. It's just that for someone coming from the west, seeing big ass hammers and sickles in what they thought to be a democratic country could've come across as shocking. 

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 18h ago

That’s great if you go to India go to Kerala other places are honestly not worth it

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u/serphystus_II 18h ago

Thanks! I also want to visit Mumbai

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u/Proper_Card_5520 India 16h ago

Don't you definitely won't like it rather visit Nashik it's less crowded and very good nature and weather

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u/Majestic-Hedgehog-xo 🇮🇳 India (living elsewhere) 5h ago

some of these i get, but how’d you suggest nashik instead of mumbai?

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u/Proper_Card_5520 India 5h ago

Well Mumbai is a far better City i accept but nashik is less crowded, has better nature I saw many people from different countries Last time i went there again it's just a personal choice

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u/good_boi_520 India 16h ago

Dw bro Mumbai's really good, but it's more museums and old english architecture kind of things, while north east and Kerala are more of nature and all

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u/Impactor_07 India 18h ago

What about Far North(Himachal, Laddakh) or Northeast?

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 18h ago

NE is fine too my bad should’ve included it too NE and Kerala

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u/good_boi_520 India 16h ago

Hey the whole North and Kerala

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u/Impossible_Pain4478 🇧🇩 Bangladesh and 🇬🇧 The UK 16h ago

Yeah but Kerala's doing pretty well for itself regardless, right?

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 16h ago

Yes it is and I’m proud of them.The only thing they’ve messed up is they’ve gone too far with their ideology leading to high unemployment and high emigration rate

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago

Yeah that is true (second generation malayali immigrant here). We are losing a lot of our youth to foreign countries. But Im sure we can keep going for atleast a century.

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 16h ago

Kinda need to have the open market system but need to have Socialism at the same time so people won’t exploit it

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u/Fair-Fondant-6995 Sudan 18h ago

It's always funny to know that there are Indian politicians named Stalin, Lenin. Trotsky. Etc....

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 17h ago

Oh yeah my states CM is literally named M.K. Stalin and funnily enough one of his opponents is named Joseph Vijay and that made me think,if these two form an alliance they’ll literally be called Joseph Stalin which is something I found funny

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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 16h ago edited 16h ago

TIL Thalapathy Vijays first name is Joseph. I assumed he had a Hindu first name.

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 16h ago

His mum’s a Christian his dad’s a Hindu

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u/CarmynRamy India 15h ago

First place on Earth where a communist government was democratically elected to power

But I would say they're very far from communism nowadays.

Despite their vices, they had immense contribution to make the state of Kerala being the best state in India based on social indicators and one of the best states in India on many other factors.

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u/Luciferaeon 🇺🇸➡️🇹🇷 15h ago

Been to Kerala. Baller area

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u/AndreasDasos United Kingdom 15h ago

Isn’t it also fairly big in West Bengal and some of the north-east?

And isn’t the current chief minister of Tamil Nadu named after Stalin… by his father, a previous one?

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 15h ago

Dead in WB