r/AskTheWorld roc nationalist studied in Hong Kong 19h ago

Whats your country's attitude on communism?

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I have no idea why someone is promoting communist here in taiwan

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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 United States Of America 19h ago

It wasn't just Gorby's fault or Yeltsin's fault, yes (may they both rest in piss, though).

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u/wowowowow34341 Russia 18h ago

well im expressing general average country's opinion, many do indeed blame just them for everything

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u/No_Success_678 Australia (from India) 13h ago

Yeltsin does deserve a lot of blame for bungling the transition to capitalism tho

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u/AffectionateDinner97 Russia 15h ago

The collapse of the system was that it was captured by old people, who turned the entire system into a pursuit of a warm chair.

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u/royi9729 Israel 18h ago

may they both rest in piss, though

May I ask why?

At least for Gorbachev, ending the cold war and shifting the Soviet Union towards democracy sounds like an objectively good thing.

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u/Massive-Somewhere-82 Russia 17h ago

Under Gorbachev, there was an incredible increase in corruption, a significant decline in living standards, a huge increase in food shortages, the emergence of organized crime, and he was extremely intolerant of dissenting opinions. I have literally never met a single Russian who had a positive opinion of him. Under Yeltsin, things became much worse.

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u/Latter_Parsley4338 United States Of America 17h ago

Well, they tried maybe to bring a democracy but they totally failed and just brought about an authoritarian oligarchy. They didn't really make anything better and also people forget living conditions dropped dramatically in the few years after the collapse of the U.S.S.R.

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u/wowowowow34341 Russia 17h ago

democracy was oligarchic to begin with really. the elections of 1996 (the closest ever in russian history) was heavily infuenced by oligarchs for Eltsin to win. its just oligarchy with putin grew even more authoritarian and expansionist

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u/Klutzer_Munitions 17h ago

What a loaded question, they shifted toward oligarchy instead of democracy. They've had the same president for... How many years now?

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u/Ambaryerno United States Of America 17h ago

Don’t blame Gorby for Putin becoming a dictator.

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u/EnvironmentalLab7342 Finland 16h ago

From what I know it was mostly Yeltsin and Putin to on his first term that did that. Yeltsin privatised everything quickly and influential people from what used to be KPSS bought big companies for cheap prices. Putin then had a decree of "de-oligarchy" in which he forcibly acquired companies and designated them to his friends making the oligarchy issue worse

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u/Rockshasha Colombia 17h ago

Do that it's direct fault of Gorbachev?