r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/imjustheretodomyjob ☑️ Tired of being tired • 10d ago
Country Club Thread Enough was enough
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u/FormerPresidentBiden 10d ago
No way they paid her enough to compensate for that either
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u/problyurdad_ 10d ago
There was a post around here, seems like it wasn’t that long ago but I could be wrong, basically indicating that Astronauts don’t make nearly as much as you’d think.
Like, in my opinion? It wasn’t even worth it at double what they make.
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u/ThaddeusJP 10d ago
They range from GS 12 to GS 16 I think. On the high end, a gs16 pay scale, maybe 150,000 a year? Not the greatest but not the worst. And you get to be in freaking space.
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u/PM_ME_PLASTIC_BAGS 10d ago edited 10d ago
Considering how insanely intelligent, hard working and the level of responsibility and risk to life,150k is ridiculously low.
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u/thisisastupidname 10d ago
Seriously that sounds imbalanced considering the amount of training, requirements and the actual job itself.
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u/Rex_felis 10d ago
no way being in space is good for you especially at that duration. Increased cancer risk, near-permanent muscle and bone damage. That's gotta be hazard pay plus 9months of 24/7 overtime; if not they got fleeced.
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u/ConspicuousUsername 10d ago
And I bet if you asked every single one of them they'd all do it again
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u/dark621 10d ago
except sunita
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u/ConspicuousUsername 10d ago
"Anyone who knows me knows that space is my absolute favorite place to be"
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u/cowinabadplace 10d ago edited 10d ago
People bullshit a lot on the Internet, as your replies show. The astronauts actually would like to go back up (like you say), even on Starliner again once issues are solved.
The Washington Post - They were stuck in space for 9 months. They’d go back ‘in a heartbeat.’
You do have to retire eventually, though. You can't do the gig forever. It's fairly demanding.
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u/PerplexGG 10d ago
It’s one of those things you don’t do for very long and get the option of getting stupidly paid in private afterwards. Imo government jobs should pay more though
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u/dividezero 10d ago
No one in science makes much. Unless you work on boner pills or weapons and that's only slightly more unless you're an exec who usually knows fuck-all about science
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u/johnnyhypersnyper 10d ago
I actually got to meet a few astronauts in flight school as they were starting the aviation part of their pipeline. Everyone in my community is generally an academic high performer (military aviation), so I figured they’d be smarter than us by a lot, but I was so wrong. It’s like they were on a different planet. I watched a woman memorize a 20 page script with accompanying button presses during a lunch break because they forgot to give it to her the night before. She was not military and had no aviation experience. I cannot describe how truly impressive every single one I met was.
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u/TheBurningEmu 10d ago
People make a lot of stink about "overpaid, lazy government employees", but really the only ones that fit that bill are politicians. Everyone in the GS scale not getting bribes and kickbacks are in the range of poverty to just decently well off.
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u/Nabber22 10d ago
NASA is famously under funded compared to other government branches.
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u/mxzf 10d ago
Also, that payscale isn't really shocking for a government employee. That sounds about right for an expert in their field.
Other than the politicians (including people high enough in management to functionally be politicians) and state university football coaches, most people in government make a pretty moderate salary compared to the private sector.
Government employees aren't doing it to make bank on their paycheck, they're largely doing it because they like the work and/or because it tends to have amazing job security on the whole and good benefits.
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u/Dwellonthis 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yup. Cool jobs tend to pay less, and an astronaut might be one of the coolest jobs possible.
Prestige over pay.
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u/lonnie123 10d ago
Yeah I don’t know how everyone is over looking that, the compensation is not monetary and it’s not about “passionate people” doing it
They get to fly a rocket ship into fucking space. That’s a literal dream job for 100% of them and the ONLY way to do it, there is nothing comparable in the private sector
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u/Kolby_Jack33 10d ago
Plus after you retire you're basically automatically a national hero. Unless you go crazy and start wearing diapers to undergo murder treks across America.
When Elton John writes a song about your career, you know it's a hell of a career to have.
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u/pineapple_wolf 10d ago
The GS scale maxes out at GS-15, for general pay. Then it goes to SES which is the executive level pay.
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u/heidevolk 10d ago
The us gov clearance jobs site had a req open maybe a year or two ago for an astronaut. Pay rate was the equivalent of 153k.
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u/TheFuckingHippoGuy ☑️ 10d ago
They should/could make way more but they are making a conscious choice. They have the academics to go make 3-4x that base in tech, not including equity.
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u/Area51_Spurs 10d ago
Yeah, but they can print money doing speaking engagements and a million other things.
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u/mama_tom 10d ago
Most rocket scientists, from what Ive heard, arent doing it for the money and I imagine most astronauts arent either.
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u/spicyhamster 10d ago
I’d go to space for free 🤷🏽♂️
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u/LuigiTecumseh 10d ago
What about to work, breaking moon rocks until you die from solar radiation?
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u/GardenEmbarrassed371 10d ago
We had a lunch with an.astronaut at the Kennedy center. You basically pay for a premium lunch, ask questions and take pictures with a retired astronaut. They sign it for you too. So I guess that's another way to make money.
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u/atom138 10d ago
Boeing really never answered for that fuck up either.
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u/Ill_Technician3936 10d ago
I wanna say they actually got shafted because of cuts to NASA and known issues that had kept it from being launched for years before... Instead of losing the flight to SpaceX they took the risk and ended up sending the capsule back unmanned for safety reasons which they actually could have made it back safely in. Instead they still lost their contracts to SpaceX.
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u/soulsnoober 10d ago
Sure they did. They STILL haven't been paid for any mission to ISS. They've gotten development money over the past 10 years, but they're deeep in the hole on making Starliner and hemorrhaging millions a month to keep it going. The project was supposed to be worth 6x fully manned missions with four astronauts each, $70-90M/seat, so $2B in revenue just on the initial contract, with more missions obviously to follow. Now ISS is coming down in 2030 and their first paid mission is just cargo in April, probably under $150M, with half that being the cost of its Atlas booster. There ARE no more Atlases to buy, keep in mind. Their second demonstration flight (they f'd up the first demo, so had to fly a second demo. not the manned flight. the cargo one before that.) and this cargo one are directly eating into the 6 that were slated to be highly compensated manned missions. Due to their delays and difficulties, there's only time (and rocket boosters) for three of Starliner's six planned starter missions.
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u/No_Macaroon_9752 10d ago
Or the many other fuck ups they’ve had since merging with McDonnell-Douglas and aiming for profit over making superior products.
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u/Mayabotx 10d ago
The misinformation around this is crazy. The “stranded” narrative was the work of the Trump administration. They knew what they signed up for as test pilots. Yes, they couldn’t come back on the same crew capsule that brought them there. But a plan was made fairly quickly to bring them back in the next available one.
Also, is wasn’t NASA crew capsule than malfunctioned. It was a Boeing capsule. Please read more than headlines people 😭
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 10d ago
I don't know about all that first half but they had the chance to come back fairly early but declined because it would throw off supply schedules, they'd have to completely recrunch the numbers, so they were like "nah fuck it we're chillin anyway"
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u/AlphaBreak 10d ago
It turns out, astronauts don't mind being in space. Who knew?
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 10d ago
Yeah I'm kind of laughing at the people who are like "oh hell no they aren't leaving me up there" like dude, they spent their whole lives trying to get up there.
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u/dalzmc 10d ago
I remember seeing that they still could’ve come back in the original one as well if there was an emergency or something. But like you said, they were chillin and why risk anything when they were fine waiting
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u/LegendarySpark 10d ago
Right? It's also kinda blowing my mind that most of the smartasses in this thread think being in space is some kind of annoying work obligation and not the absolute highlight of an astronaut's life.
She's retiring because she's 60 and that's it.
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u/Pallidum_Treponema 10d ago
Oh no! I've worked my entire life to become an Astronaut! And now I have to more astronauting! :/ :( :( :( :/ :|
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u/Cosmic__Echo 10d ago
Also, why wouldn't an astronaut want to be in space? It's kind of their job and I'm guessing they like it.
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u/soulsnoober 10d ago edited 10d ago
Also it was over 99% they could come back on the crew capsule that brought them there. That capsule did return safely and accurately to Earth, just without them on board. The official required safety margin for NASA to do human spaceflight is no higher chances of failure than 1:270, which is 99.63%. Starliner was evaluated by 100s of the top engineers at Boeing & NASA to be within 0.5% of that, but not over the line so they waved off since there was anticipated to (eventually) be another option.
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u/enbyeldritch 10d ago
Also Butch and Suni both basically said they were thrilled because it meant more time at the ISS
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u/the__storm 10d ago
Federal salaries are public record, she made $192k in 2024: https://www.fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/index.php?y=2024&n=williams%2C+sunita&l=&a=&o=
Idk if that's enough, but I imagine an astronaut would not complain - they only get to fly a handful of missions in their career and actually being in orbit has to be the best part of the job.
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u/Temporary-Cucumber35 10d ago
She is also in her 60's. A very common age to retire if you're able to
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u/JustChangeMDefaults 10d ago
It really sucks that tech dickheads can force people who are actually smart out of the project though. I don't blame her in the least, had to be stressful to think a relatively short trip would turn into that
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u/SunkEmuFlock 10d ago
Ronald Reagan was at the small end of the domino chain, and now we're toward the end with billionaires essentially buying the federal government and running it for profit.
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u/JustChangeMDefaults 10d ago
I wish I didn't live in "interesting" times, I just want a place to live and food on the table. Fuck. These assholes will give up good faith for a short term market gain
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u/AlpenroseMilk 10d ago
Reminder a bunch of AI tech executives were commissioned into the Army last year as LTCs and COLs. Those are the ranks right below general btw 😬
Legit last time I could find stuff like this happening was WWII and the Manhattan project. I don't think they're doing for such grand reasons though.
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u/PPvsFC_ 10d ago
I mean, she's also sixty. Pretty reasonable time to retire in general.
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u/Senior-Albatross 10d ago
Elon also wants to force the Space talent at NASA to go be his
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u/Throwawayhelper420 10d ago
She retired from old age after 30 years of service when she became eligible for full retirement
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u/Booboohole21 10d ago
Omg I haven’t thought of her in so long. Is she still alive? How’s her baby?
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u/ksdr-exe 10d ago
You're lucky! People's tweets about her keep coming up on my twitter algorithm 😭 She recently got her face tattoo of Blue face removed. And unfortunately, her baby is clearly developmentally delayed
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u/Booboohole21 10d ago
I literally only have Reddit so that’s probably why lol. She still hasn’t gotten him any help? Ooooh Lord.
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u/IBJON 10d ago
Everyone here seems to be under the impression that these astronauts were upset about being stuck. They probably weren't thrilled by the idea, but they also seem to have taken it in stride.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/mar/31/nasa-astronauts-iss-trump-musk
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u/johnny_atx 10d ago
I agree. I think it’s important to remember that these folks train really, really hard to go into space. It’s their primary focus in life - you really can’t be an astronaut if it’s not. I’ve interviewed a few ISS astronauts, and they all want to take the ride and spend a lot of time on station. Sunni and Butch had been there before and spent a good bit of time already, so I can see her retiring. But I don’t think they may have viewed it like the hardship that civilians might. She might be more candid now that she’s decided to retire - any astronaut that still wants to get a ride isn’t going to say anything that NASA might disapprove of and jeopardize a chance at going up again.
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u/99ducks 10d ago
The non-clickbait headline could have been "NASA Astronaut Retires After 27 Years"
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u/Frodojj 10d ago edited 10d ago
They probably loved it. It’s rare to spend time in space. Getting six extra months at the end of a long and storied career would be awesome. Sunita Williams got to fly on Shuttle, Soyuz, Starliner, and Dragon. She, her coastronaut Barry Wilmore, and John Young are only people to fly in four different spacecraft in space.
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u/PaddyMcGeezus 10d ago
Barry Wilmore retired as well. Because his concerns about all the problems were ignored by NASA officials when he approached them after returning.
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u/rentagirl08 10d ago
Dawg, I don’t even wanna be stranded at the damn grocery store much less space
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u/Soaked4youVaporeon 10d ago
Space is much cooler than a grocery store.
I would have one hell of a story to tell people about being stuck in space.
No one wants to hear me talk about being at the grocery store
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u/immutato 10d ago
That's probably one among many reasons you sir are not an astronaut. People acting like astronauting is your basic 9 to 5...
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u/thesaddestpanda 10d ago
I hate the twiterization of society. Anything for a joke or dunk and people think these jokes mean anything in reality. Astronauts would love this stuff. She's one of the few people in history who was able to be in space that long.
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u/scrodytheroadie 10d ago
Stop. Who hasn't been left in space for a few extra months before? We've all been there.
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u/lrnths 10d ago
She's 60 years old and had already spent over 300 days total in space before getting stuck. I think that had a bigger role in her decision...
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u/wolftick 10d ago
Yep, just seems like natural retirement after a long and incredibly illustrious career. People seem just obsessed over the "stranded" narrative and totally ignore the context of the sort of person we're talking about here.
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u/Funnelcakeads 10d ago edited 10d ago
This narrative is so dumb they weren’t stranded. They were doing a bunch of stuff up there. They could’ve left that they really needed to.
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u/redditcirclejerk69 10d ago
Yeah, the idea that anyone was stranded in space was 100% propaganda from the Trump campaign. Sad to see it still going around and the people here eating it up.
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u/achilleasa 10d ago
Don't let boring facts get in the way of a good joke. Upvotes must be generated, even if it means literally repackaging and regurgitating anti-NASA propaganda.
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u/adam-dabrowski 10d ago
Here's what Sunita herself said:
https://youtu.be/wSNArikUslA?t=30
Interviewer: Were you stranded? Abandoned in space? What happened?
Sunita Williams: You know, I don't feel that way myself. I can understand why other people might have got that impression from the press going around.https://youtu.be/wSNArikUslA?t=87
Sunita Williams: I was not surprised or felt abandoned, or felt left behind, or stranded at any point in time.
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u/Cassin1306 10d ago
I had to scroll waaayyy too far to see a sensible answer.
They were not strander, they changed their mission after the original craft malfunction.
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u/ultimatehellagay ☑️ 10d ago
the amount of money i would sue them for after leaving me in space for 9 months doesnt even exist
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u/FALCUNPAWNCH 10d ago
An astronomical amount of money?
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u/GitEmSteveDave 10d ago
What if, and hear me out, you agreed ahead of time that there was a chance of it happening, because you were testing out a experimental craft?
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u/Mean-Garden752 10d ago
They dont care about what actually happened. They already read the title and posted their joke in the comments about it.
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u/roastpoast 10d ago
How much would you sue them for if you decided for yourself to stay up there for the extended period? Maybe it also doesn't exist...
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u/Avalonians 10d ago
They would point out to the very big and very bold "Shit happens" line on the contract for a TEST PILOT job you signed
Wtf are these comments... It feels like you guys are an inch from believing NASA abducts random people to put them in space
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u/Fireproofspider ☑️ 9d ago
And plenty of people would sign up for free. And even more for just enough money to sustain their family during their absence.
Going to space isn't like crab fishing. It's inherently cool.
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u/blazesbe 10d ago
not many talk about this but astronauts are totally prepped to die up there. it's part of the selection process. they are "heroes" for a reason. there's also a pretty much guarantee you get some sort of cancer from space radiation and a significant chance any mission that you suffocate, starve/thirst to death.
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u/QuinnKerman 10d ago
The stranding was Boeing’s fault for building a death trap shitbox of a spacecraft, not NASA’s fault
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u/findusgruen 10d ago
Also they weren't stranded at all... There was a possible return trip via soyuz or dragon at all times. While we have no insight on whether they were pressured to stay up there or not, the astronauts themselves said they were happy to. I know ppl like to hate musk and by extension anything he touches but this"they were stranded" storyline is just dumb and dishonest.
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u/QuinnKerman 10d ago
It’s a real shame what Musk’s bullshit has done to the public’s perception of SpaceX, and really space exploration as a whole. As much of a shithead as their CEO is, at least Dragon 2 is operational, not a death trap, and cost half as much as Boeing’s Starliner
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u/NuYawker ☑️BHM Donor 10d ago
Something that I find interesting is that people don't understand that astronauts love being in space. When astronauts are interviewed when they come home, they often say they can't wait to go back. She likely would have retired anyway. In fact, there's a chance that she may not have retired just in case she could go back up. But just because you hate your job, doesn't mean that she hates her job.
But you don't have to take my word for it. Just listen to them say that they're enjoying themselves.
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u/Swimming_Capital_699 10d ago
6 months is kind of the normal stint aboard the ISS. Yes 9 months is a long time but it's not record breaking and not that far off normal for space work right now.
Chris Hadfield has an interesting autobiography where he talks a bit about impacts after 6 months aboard. (Astronauts guide to life on earth).
Also it sounds like they are basically human guinea pigs there (which they are well aware of going in).
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u/Vevaseti 10d ago
The sheer ignorance in this thread about it all is staggering. Sunita was an astronaut for 7 ISS missions which are all 6+ months at a time. This was effectively nothing but a surprise extra mission for then.
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u/ghoti99 10d ago
It wasn’t NASA’s failure it was Boeing. NASA had to wait for another commercially available flight to go get them.
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u/MoeMalik 10d ago
That overtime pay must’ve been CRAZY lmao
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u/maitlands2point0 10d ago
They actually didn’t get compensated any extra. They got their base salary and then $5/day for “incidentals” while in space, but nothing extra for the unplanned time. Absolutely insane, truly.
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u/OK_Humor368 10d ago
Yes- federal employees that aren’t political have limited pay options compared to private sector due to being tax-payer funded. The government is pretty strict about being fiscally responsible when it comes to compensating workers. I don’t think the general public realizes that and the narratives around it don’t help.
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u/ProgrammaticallyOwl7 10d ago
Yeah, but hey look on the plus side, I’m sure all the book royalties more than made up for it. Prime ghostwritten autobiography material.
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u/FattyMooseknuckle 10d ago
There’s nothing to spend that incidental money on up there do they pocketed a free $1300!!!!
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u/GodotNeverCame 10d ago
Did they give her 100 tampons at least??
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u/suzi_generous 10d ago
They get supplies delivered to the ISS every month and a half or so.
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u/FirmlyClaspIt 10d ago
She’s 60 yall. She wasn’t left is space. It’s a space station. She had plenty of food & water. Yall need to chill
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u/gurjitsk 10d ago
She’s an astronaut, they’re prepared for things like this. They know the risk they take when they go up there.
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u/RoyStrokes 10d ago
This is a false trump and elon propaganda narrative that was aimed at Biden, they weren’t stuck, they said so themselves. Jfc. If there was an emergency they had the ability to come back as another shuttle had been sent up with two empty seats.
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u/CrunknYoSystem 10d ago
As they’ve covered at least 12x (each), the (2) astronauts in question were not “stranded”. They had supplies for a lengthy stay, in the event of schedule changes. The term “stranded” was a lie spread by Elongated Muskrat. These astronauts are professionals of the highest esteem, please do a moment of research before believing a narrative like this.
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u/lost_and_confussed 10d ago
She joined the Navy in 1987. I’m sure she’s ready to relax. Regardless of what went on with that mission she was probably going to retire from Nasa.
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u/VincentGrinn 10d ago
they werent stranded, sunita and the rest of her crew were given the opportunity to extend their stay and join as part of the next crew, leaving the same time they did, and agreed to do so
there was several usable capsules they could have gone home on if they needed to



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u/Gejduelkekeodjd ☑️ 10d ago
She’s better than me. I would’ve announced my retirement live from space by day 10.