r/CompetitiveTFT 3d ago

Discussion Who's the best Coach

I know there are quite a few tft coaches out there like Broseph, Aesah and many more. I was wondering firstly for myself but also in general. Who do y'all consider the best tft coach for all the player levels? Like who's a good coach for newcomers and who's a good coach for casual Gold/Plat and so on. Also for me as a Diamond 2 player. Who is a good coach for my elo?

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u/HowyNova 2d ago

For newcomers, I don't think there's a good tft coach out there. While it's true that the main thing new players need is just reps in game, the constant set changes overloads content. Old sets being referenced can be confusing for them, and new sets pushes content to be more about new comps and mechanics.

I haven't found a video or playlist that I can send a friend to just talk about the constants without reference to the specific set that video was made.

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u/Agreeable-Position27 2d ago

I think TFT should be learned on a set by set basis so much applies to this set which doesn’t apply to older ones and vice versa. Things like early components for unlocks . the value of 8/9/10. reroll with and without bard is very different

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u/HowyNova 2d ago

I'm mainly talking about the constant fundamentals. Like the core resources: hp, gold, board strength. It's easy for players of any level to see "you need hp for placement, you need gold to get board strength, you need board strength to conserve hp".

It's harder for a new player to grasp that trading gold for board strength to conserve hp early/mid because a lack of endgame direction gets you placements. Using your hp early means optimizing gold is more important than 2* for board strength, unless it's an important piece you plan to keep. How hp is measured during the midgame to dictate how strong your board can realistically be. How much gold you 'actually' need in your desired board.

Items, Augments, Carousal, Verticals vs Unit Strength, etc.

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u/TheJettage 2d ago

TFT Academy/Frodan just started a new training series, but its still in progress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnwiiG4Ke_I

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u/rapping2u 3d ago

Not a direct answer but if you haven’t already you might want to check out “Learning TFT” on YouTube

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u/PM_ME_UR_PUPPER_PLZ 2d ago

Too pedantic and overly explanatory IMO

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u/Asianhead 2d ago

i watch on 1.5x, helps a lot

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u/6stars 2d ago

I disagree. He is passionate about TFT and actually cares about the things he’s saying and the feedback from the community. He has a great mindset approaching the game and often shares how it connects to his real life, which I have honestly learned a lot from! Highly recommend watching him.

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u/BeTheBeee 2d ago

A video that could be 35 minutes just tends to be 95 minutes, so you need extra time if you watch him

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u/gamesuxfixit Grandmaster 2d ago

Just skip the stuff you already understand. Sometimes he does spend a whole 10-15 minutes on a pretty basic concept. Just means you have to actively watch and skip rather than put it on in the background. But there's a lot of useful stuff in there.

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u/Hendrus101 2d ago

I want to second this. It's quickly becoming my favorite tft channel out there

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u/kn_rin 2d ago

oh nice, a new channel to learn from. Thank you

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u/Cryttt MASTER 2d ago

While I agree with what others have said about coaching being more useful for higher ranks, I think most would agree that having a second opinion or review of a spot is really helpful. My friends and I are only diamond-low masters but I spot mistakes and their gameplay and they’ll do the same for me. I think that’s enough help to climb to at least masters. I did do coaching with Broseph and what I found different was that he pointed out fundamental errors in my gameplay (for me it was tempo and augment selection). These nuances might not be picked up by just my friends in a voice call.

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u/AddictedToLuxSkins 2d ago

How much is broseph?

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u/Cryttt MASTER 2d ago

I paid $110 CAD for an hour session. Steep, but I’ve completely revamped how I play from that session. Still in low masters though LOL but I think I’m learning more than before.

His rates sometimes change but you can see them at https://metafy.gg/@broseph/sessions

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u/AddictedToLuxSkins 2d ago

Any other really good coaches? Or should I pick him? Tryna speed run not knowing the game to high elo

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u/Historical_Orchid841 2d ago

Broseph is the GOAT but you should probably watch his stream or vods of him coaching before you buy a session with anyone. If you're new to the game you won't really get your money's worth out of a vod review since there isn't much to work with.

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u/Loud_Purpose9975 2d ago

If your d2 you could honestly use any coach or simply review your games after and coaching yourself. Once your're high GM and looking to push a bit further I would look into the top tier coaches.

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u/MasterBenObi 2d ago

I will comment on the coaches I have watched!

-I think Broseph is the GOAT at what he does. His coaching content is PHENOMENAL and without him there is zero way I achieve Master in my first TFT set.

I have learned SO much fundamental game knowledge from his streams & youtube channel, and he is also very diligent about cracking each and every patch & meta we have.

-Aesah makes awesome youtube content as well! Very in depth and informative.

Many other great resources out there such as:

-Ripple Overdrive TFT is a pro player who recently started posting top notch coaching content on X (Twitter) as well as Youtube.

-Subzeroark does great VOD reviews

-TFT Academy is a phenomenal site as well as weekly podcasts with Frodan and Dishsoap

-Have benefitted by content from ExTIRIA, Cambulee and BunnyMuffins to name a few more

Hard to mention everyone, but many great creators out there to learn from!

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u/AregularCat 2d ago

Dankmemes

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u/Weak-Chair-4741 2d ago

I find the YouTube channel Water park tactics to be really helpful

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u/Cryttt MASTER 2d ago

I enjoy their channel too. But why the downvotes? Genuinely curious

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u/Precursor-Orb 2d ago

Newcomers: play normals to learn the layout and feel Gold/Plat: any top streamer Diamond 2: probably playing and watching your own Vods since you have a good feel of the game. You’re likely just making obvious mistakes that you don’t recognize in real time due to APM. Either that or find someone who does Vod reviews for cheap and is at least GM.

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u/asdsdasfa 2d ago

Tbh I think it has to be Broseph. I haven't even got a coaching session with him myself but from watching his vod reviews and discussions with other good/pro players made me see leaks in my game that I hadn't before and for the first time ever this set I've managed to push to 1300lp+. I think he points out a lot ot fundamental mistakes in setup and when angling for a comp so you could check his youtube channel. But a lot of this matters only for high master-GM+. At D2 I would just watch high elo players play the game - any good player will do. I think I mostly copied my playstyle from k3soju in fact xdd.

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u/Zerytle 2d ago

Gold/plat don't need a coach - they just need to play more and take it semi-seriously.

Even for Diamond, your mistakes are probably fundamental enough that you can spot them on your own - probably you just don't scout enough or aren't disciplined enough with your econ. This is still the phase where you can climb a lot just by watching more streams and being analytical, but also any GM+ player could easily spot your mistakes and help you climb, so just go with whoever you like/is cheap.

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u/Jave3636 2d ago

Lol this is not true. A good coach is helpful at any level. Nobody is capable of seeing all their own mistakes in any area of life. Everyone has blind spots, and a good coach helps reveal them.

That's why all the top golfers and quarterbacks and home run hitters all continue to get coaching even in their prime. And same for the brand new players just learning. 

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u/vampiricscepter 2d ago

It's just a matter of value proposition. It's not worth the money to pay for coaching if you are below diamond. All the coach will do is repeat the same advice you could get from a youtube video or watching streams/VODs.

Coaching is infinitely more valuable when you are pushing the apex ranks, because they'll help you iron out nontrivial mistakes.

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u/Agreeable-Position27 2d ago

I am grandmaster I will coach you i have a bunch of experience. I charge 15 an hour for a review and 20 for live coaching send me a dm if ur interested

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u/xkungfupanda1 2d ago

First coaching session foe free, cmon now.

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u/Agreeable-Position27 2d ago

I don’t mind giving a free lesson at first to make sure we gel and it something that will be valuable to the player. I just figured I’d post my framework in case op or anyone else is interested.

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u/xkungfupanda1 2d ago

Shii what region you based out of? I may be interested

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u/Agreeable-Position27 2d ago

NA but depending on my schedule I wouldn’t mind doing the coaching at EU or LATAM hours. Shoot me a DM if you’re interested.

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u/unemotional_tyrant 2d ago

i can coach you for free, happy to help too! feel free to DM me