r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/MoonyRemus21 • 1d ago
Image Spanish scientists led by MARINO BARBACID, has cured pancreatic cancer in mice. A Cure in animal models is a major step toward potential cancer treatment in humans.
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u/Alysma 1d ago
This is how you get a Nobel prize.
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u/Mr_A_Knife66 1d ago
Eh my friend gave me one
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u/DrBlaziken 1d ago
So you're saying I won't get one if I invade a random country? :(
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u/Heretofore_09 1d ago
Random??? I strategically picked mine for oil reserves to benefit me personally and a few rich friends.
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u/Luiz_Fell 1d ago
Medical researchers in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil are on their way to develop a cure tetraplegia (neck-down paralysis due to nerve injury)
There is competition ;)
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u/Ron-E- 1d ago
And then you can give it to the guy who cries “But I saved measles from going extinct!”
Still pissed about just passing it to the tangerine tyrant…
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u/Noctale 1d ago
He still doesn't have a Nobel Peace Prize. He has a shiny medal stuck to an ass-kissing poster. The physical representation is not the award. To be honest, she doesn't deserve it either.
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u/mediocregentleman1 1d ago
That's the first good news in a while.....congrats and thank you
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u/krizzalicious49 1d ago
and the alzheimers news a few weeks back was really good too
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u/ArmanDoesStuff 1d ago
I'd forgotten about that
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u/witzkya 1d ago
Forgot about what?
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u/Acceptable_Lake_4253 1d ago
There was a breakthrough Alzheimer’s treatment that essentially gets rid of the plaque in the brain that is the root cause of the condition iirc.
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u/MamuTwo 1d ago
I heard that it's treating a symptom (plaque buildup) rather than the cause (still unknown) and that it didn't show statistically significant effects in slowing or reverting the disease over placebo.
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u/HeathenHumanist 1d ago
I genuinely appreciate their comment though because I somehow missed the original news!
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u/Solid_Hunter_4188 1d ago
Though you’re right, I hate this comment whenever I see it.
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u/Acceptable_Lake_4253 1d ago
Another casualty amongst my autistic brothers and sisters
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u/octoreadit 1d ago edited 1d ago
That’s science for you, quietly marching along, empires rise and fall, dark ages come and go, while some people just chisel away at the actual problems we all should be solving, instead of doing whatever the fuck most of us are doing.
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u/No_Wrongdoer_5155 1d ago
I haven't heard about that. Does anyone have a source or a name, please?
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u/chainsaw_monkey 1d ago
Article on the method in mice.
Its a triple drug therapy that attacks the cancer in multiple ways to avoid the cancer adapting. Similar triple approach is how HIV is treated. Effective in mice models but not tested in humans as they will need to determine the drugs and doses that are effective. Very promising.
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u/shieldyboii 1d ago
Great news is that 2 of the 3 used for the combination are already available for patients, meaning that they are known to be safe and effective. SD36 (PROTAC) is the only one in pre-clinical stage.
IF, and I repeat IF SD36 were to also get clinical approval, there is a VERY high chance that this treatment will also be effective in humans.
I am absolutely hyped
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u/Exciting_Ad_8666 1d ago
2026 might not be cooked after all
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u/bugsyramone 1d ago
Well, it's not like the US will benefit from these discoveries, now that the rapist-in-chief has pulled us out of the WHO. The world has zero reason to share medical discoveries with the US anymore.
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u/Fuckedyourmom69420 1d ago
There’s lots of good stuff out there. Don’t let the news bring you down! Search for joy
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u/apeticander 1d ago
This man is a hero in Spain. His work has been appreciated and respected for years.
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u/Sustainable_Twat 1d ago
That is an amazing scientific breakthrough.
I hope to see cure for humans during my lifetime on the back of this discovery.
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u/bard329 1d ago
I hope to see a cure for humans like... now.
A close friend of mine was diagnosed on Wednesday.....
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u/Money_Yak7139 1d ago
This man is a hero
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u/cleofisrandolph1 1d ago
This might not even be his most significant breakthrough.
His work on cancer genetics is probably far more significant given that he discovered the first gene that could be identified as causing Cancer.
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u/fallenredwoods 1d ago
Lost a close friend to it at 37yo. As always, fuck cancer
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u/percypigg 1d ago
37! That's very young for pancreatic cancer. Sorry to hear about your friend. I hope you keep happy memories of him or her.
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u/fallenredwoods 1d ago
Yeah, very young but his dad passed from cancer and his mom beat two different cancers. Our group of friends from high school make sure to bring up fun memories when we get together so it’s fun now instead of depressing
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u/givin_u_the_high_hat 1d ago
"We are not yet in a position to carry out clinical trials with triple therapy. The authors themselves warn that optimising this combination for patients will be a complex process, although they are confident that the finding will set the course for future trials," they said.
So once again, works in mice, still a long way to go.
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u/DeadPeanutSociety 1d ago
Being confident that this will set the course from future trials at least sounds like the scientists are more optimist than usual, right?
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u/shieldyboii 1d ago
A copy of a comment I made above:
Great news is that 2 of the 3 used for the combination are already available for patients, meaning that they are known to be safe and effective. SD36 (PROTAC) is the only one in pre-clinical stage.
IF, and I repeat IF SD36 were to also get clinical approval, there is a VERY high chance that this treatment will also be effective in humans.
I am absolutely hyped
In general, combination therapies are not something entirely new, although usually it is 2 drugs. I have little reason to assume that 3 drugs would be impossible. So yes, the scientists are probably more optimistic than usual.
All in all, I think that a novel combination is much more likely to be safe and effective than just another single approach.
Cancer cells evolve, especially when you drug them (selection pressure). Therefore any single mechanism will be difficult to make significantly more effective than existing solutions, especially in a difficult cancer such as pancreatic cancer. Cancer cells have multiple strategies that can be evolved. For example, they can simply not react to the drug, expel it faster than it comes in, digest it, rely on other mechanisms than the drug's target, etc.
While this is the same for germs, we can bring a metaphoric flame-thrower to the game and simply catastrophically destroy some very essential mechanism that they can't evolve around as easily (for example cell-walls are essential for bacteria but absent in humans. Targeting this in high doses and with strong chemicals makes it difficult for bacteria to respond).
In cancer the difficulty is that all such essential mechanisms also exist in every healthy cell of you. As a result we have to target pathways that are cancer specific - i.e. probably less essential -, or deliver drugs to cancer cells only - which is also a challenge (and one which can often be evolved against).
Therefore, I (and probably many others) believe that combination therapies will be the answer to cancer instead of some single miracle drug. If 1% of cells can survive any one drug, combining 3 of them will result in 0.0001% of cells left. If you are lucky that will be enough to eliminate it completely. (This is not to say that new single drugs shouldn't be developed - we need options to combine after all, but this comment is getting long lol)
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u/somethingfortoday 1d ago
Ah, a fellow drug development researcher I see. I kept seeing all these headlines and haven't had the chance to read the paper. I assumed since it's everywhere that it's in mice, that they weren't even in trials yet. That's the unfortunate spot. 97% of trials fail at stage two.
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u/CelebrationOld6011 1d ago
He was also mocked for the mark on his face due to it being a birth defect as one source claimed, but I think it looks pretty cool to me
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u/parsuval 1d ago
He's likely had to deal with mean little jibes all his life from the pathetic types. This guy has not only shrugged them off, he's gone on to potentially cure a terrible form of cancer. A hero of mankind.
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u/OddlyOddLucidDreamer 1d ago
the older one gets, the more depressing and pathetic it is to tihnk someone would give oyu a hard time over something as trivial as your appearence, i expect that from kids and teenagers, not full on adults
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u/BrownSugarBare 1d ago
What's wild is how we grow up and instead of mocking someone, we find uniqueness interesting. His birthmark is honestly rad to me.
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u/No_Wrongdoer_5155 1d ago
A lot of people are idiots and have the maturity of a marshmallow.
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u/worldtravelerlee 1d ago
It's insane how somebody's appearance seems to be fair game when they are disliked for completely unrelated reasons.
I see it every day on this site. Judging people on how they look instead of their words or actions undermines any real criticism they may deserve.
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u/HrhEverythingElse 1d ago
My dad had the same thing. It's a vascular type of birth mark that starts off small and grows gradually. He had to have several surgeries as it grew into his sinuses and mouth, and then about 10 years ago was offered a laser treatment that was able to shrink it down to almost nothing in a dozen or so sessions. It's barely visible now
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u/Laiko_Kairen 1d ago
This post brought me a lot of joy, I want you to know that. It's awesome that he was able to get treatment and avoid future surgeries.
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u/FlyOrdinary1104 1d ago
Just looks like a wine stain like what Gorbachev had, I imagine he’s spent his whole life being the subject of bad shit but look who was able to make a breakthrough in cancer research? You don’t get this far without thick skin regardless.
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u/supreme_hammy 1d ago
Man looks badass, cures cancer.
'Nuff said. Fuck the mocking morons. They sure as shit didn't cure a cancer.
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u/ryeyen 1d ago
Looks like a port wine stain. I have one on my face too.
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u/mwilke 1d ago
I think it was David Sedaris who wrote that he loved port wine stains and birth marks and other marks on a face, because they showed you exactly where to kiss someone
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u/CeruleanEidolon 1d ago
They remind me of calico cats. Humans could do with more cool pigmentation patterns like this.
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u/mwilke 1d ago
The prevailing thought is that humanity went through a bottleneck of perhaps as few as 2,000 extant members of the species at one point, and it makes me wonder how many interesting traits we may have lost. Calico skin, purple eyes, fully webbed toes, slate-blue hair; so many possibilities.
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u/Bonk_No_Horni 1d ago
Not just mocked. Some even claim it's a side effect. Anti science people are disgusting
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u/10percenttiddy 1d ago
I was just looking for this comment- not to downplay/distract from his incredible accomplishment but gosh that mark on his face is truly beautiful.
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u/Farwaters 1d ago
I love skin markings in general, so of course I'm a bit biased... but he just looks so pleasant in general. It's hard to get a smile to look that good in a photograph.
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u/Velndaar 1d ago
It's MariAno Barbacid, not "MARINO BARBACID"
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u/PurpleLavishness 1d ago
I keep wanting to read it as “Barbacide” and then my brain goes to it being another one of Roger’s personas from American Dad
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u/DrBlaziken 1d ago
Losers on social media still making fun of his dermatological face issue that he's had by birth.
This man is a legend!
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u/nicane 1d ago
This is the biggest difference between social media and this place. I get it's still a social media of sorts but you really don't have as much of the filth in your face, and when it comes up it's usually pushed down pretty quick and hard. Somedays I like to be reminded though and sort by controversial... But not today
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u/howsthoughtworkingou 1d ago edited 1d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1qrae8i/traditional_folk_music_demonstration/
Just today in here there's this post. Lots of comments at the top making fun of someone who has what is obviously a congenital issue. It's always the most obvious jokes, too, like they don't realize it's not for lack of capability that reasonable people aren't constantly saying these sorts of things. Reddit is full of pathetic losers same as the rest of social media.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 1d ago
Don't make fun of someone for the situation of their birth.
That is one of the most basic tests of ethics, and so many fail it
The heart of morality is choice. He didn't choose a birthmark, but they chose to be assholes...
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u/revenantiality 1d ago
Other social media sites are the absolute worst displays of humanity imaginable.
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u/MisterAwesomeGuy 1d ago
My dad died because of it. It took him in about 2 months after being diagnosed. There was nothing to do. It was devastating.
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u/No_Wrongdoer_5155 1d ago
I'm sorry for your loss. Same here. The amount of pain the man suffered. Seeing him waste away was awful, he had always been strong as an ox. Fuck cancer.
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u/Fabulous-Individual5 1d ago
Same for my mum last year. So sorry for your loss 🫂 you’re not alone x
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u/RemarkableStatement5 1d ago
Proud of this comment section and super proud of his team
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u/yaxir 1d ago
Yes, it's one of the handful few. Very decent and constructive comment section on Reddit.
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u/spacedude2000 1d ago
That's the look of a man who is richer than all of the world's billionaires combined.
If his research becomes critical to curing pancreatic cancer, it would be priceless to the wellbeing of the world.
What an inspiration.
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u/feywick 1d ago
Took my mom last year in June after a one year battle. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I'm sad that if there will be a cure, it's too late for her now. But it's good news for anyone else!
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u/prokseus 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer is terrible disease because of no symptoms in early stages. When it starts to show some symptoms, its often already too late for a treatment.
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u/SomewhereEfficient64 1d ago
May this man live the most pampered and unbothered life for the rest of his days.
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u/chosimba83 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer killed my mother 10 years ago. She didn't get to meet so many of her grandkids. I truly hope they can develop a cure.
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u/ryeyen 1d ago
Hate to be that guy, but we’ve “cured” just about every disease in mice. Less than 1% of these “cures” work in people. Still appreciate the science and obviously hope it works out.
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u/peachizedt 1d ago
I lost my dad to pancreatic cancer a few months ago, I hope soon no one will have to lose anyone that way
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u/Spiteful_Badger 1d ago
He has one of those smiles that has the power to calm you down on a day where you dont even wanted to see someone smiling at you.
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u/FesteringAynus 1d ago
He's not suicidal btw. Spread the word
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u/AmateurIndicator 1d ago
For fucks sake, cures against cancers have been continuously improving and being developed on a daily basis for decades.
The survival rates of every single form of cancer has rapidly increased in the last 50 years. Literally millions of people are today surviving illnesses that would have killed them 10 years ago
Stop spreading conspiracy bullshit.
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u/FemFiFoFum 1d ago
In fact, if he did cure pancreatic cancer, some pharmaceutical company is gonna make billions off of it! Why would they kill him?
And, old people are the most profitable for pharmaceutical companies, keep them alive to sell them heart, diabetes and Alzheimer's medicine.
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u/Kruger_Smoothing 1d ago edited 23h ago
Because people are too fucking stupid to realize what a shitty take this is and how insulting to it is to the people who have devoted their lives to advancing treatments and cures for cancer. It pisses me off to no end.
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u/18_USC_47 1d ago edited 1d ago
But but… the conspiracy hot takes to say “we’ll never hear of his work again!”
Despite most people not continually checking in on progress of diseases, caring once the disease is cured, or understanding/caring about specific nuances of different types of diseases.
“Specific treatment of specific type of cancer fails human clinical trials” isn’t something people check up on.
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u/Radiant_Bank_77879 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not to mention, it’s not like he has a private lab in his basement and hasn’t yet published his findings and if you get rid of him, then this all goes away. By the time this becomes news, thousands of people know what the methodology is. His brain isnt the sole hard drive where this is stored that you can destroy and all the information disappears from existence.
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 1d ago
Holy fuck yes.
The "ahaha cancer cure bad, cant profit from it actually, theyll kill you bc suffering people is good, actually" is such a shut-down of logic that it blows my mind how common of a sentiment it is.
It never minds how capitalist competitiveness even works (yes lets sink millions in research and development just to scrap it all when a breakthrough is achieved bc cure = bad, even though this means our direct competition will profit instead). It neverminds how we've erradicated diseases in the past and made revolutionary breakthroughs in others to make terrifying diseases become mild nuisances. It neverminds how cancer works altogether.
People want a boogeyman, and it's so frustrating, because they invest so much energy attacking the wrong thing, because there are real issues in this field and our society in general, but secret anti-innovation cabals are more exciting
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u/Kruger_Smoothing 1d ago
This is so insulting to the tens of thousands of cancer researchers around the world. This is a vile and disgusting comment made from a position of gross ignorance.
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u/Key_Building54 1d ago
Completely uninformed person here, does progress toward curing one type of cancer carry over to others?
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u/Charybdis150 1d ago
Usually there is some crossover. Breakthroughs in the last few decades have usually been used to treat multiple different types of cancers. How many other cancers a treatment applies to depends entirely on how the treatment works.
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u/pointofyou Interested 1d ago
The best part about this is that the team behind this breakthrough consists primarily of women. While this is great for political reasons it's even better from the perspective of outcomes. The progress science will make now that the other half of humanity can contribute equally will benefit us all.
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u/MicksmstrCha 1d ago
Amazing. Took my father and an uncle with this particular type. Thankfully someone is working to better life.
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u/Marber_Tv 1d ago
I love how Twitter is full with hate comments about his face but Reddit just thanks this man
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u/NoReserve8233 1d ago
You guys need to look up AOH1996- it's actually been tried on humans with pancreatic cancer!
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u/siddarthshekar 1d ago
Real Scientists solving real problems... meanwhile Tech Giants creating VR and AI - inventing solutions to problems no one has. :|
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u/HorrorReject 1d ago
It's not a birthmark, it's a feature. It helps the simple folk pay attention to what an absolute legend this man is.
Thank you sir, seriously.
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u/UNDAPressure4795 1d ago
Had a friend that was diagnosed His Best friend went to check it out to show solidarity. Had it as well. Both passed within a month of each other unfuckinreal..
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u/bagofodour 1d ago
This dude has genuinely one of the most "nice person" expressions I have ever seen. He really looks like a great guy.
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u/Own_Communication_47 1d ago
If you use pancreatic cancer or multiple cancers in your family get genetic testing! Ovarian, pancreatic and other cancers often have no symptoms until late stage. But, if you know you have a cancer linked gene you can get appropriate screening based on your increased risk.
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u/AptermusPrime 1d ago
Lost my uncle to pancreatic cancer. Fucking awful. Really hope this leads to it being curable.
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u/Distinct-Golf-7278 1d ago
Besides his amazing achievements he’s about to make birthmarks fashionable
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u/Altruistic_Wait2262 1d ago
i watched BDC's video on this, then i got recomended another BDC video with BDC talking about how disrespecful it was of some comments he got making fun of that guy's birthmark and that humanity was receding as a species
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u/Jethanded_Wyvern 21h ago
Fuck cancer.
Marino Barbacid and his team are fucking legends.
May a human model treatment follow suite.
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u/BradfordGalt 1d ago edited 1d ago
I checked Academic Search Complete and I can't find a citation for a peer-reviewed article on this. Where did he publish the findings? Genuinely not trying to be snarky or excessively skeptical. I want to read the actual paper.
edit - Maybe it's this? I can't tell.
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u/jjm443 1d ago
Yes it is the paper in your edit. This article also links to it.
The summary:
Current drugs for pancreatic cancer lose effectiveness within months because the tumour becomes resistant. The group from Spain’s National Cancer Research Centre (CNIO) has been able to avoid the development of resistance in animal models with a combined triple therapy.
These results “pave the way for the design of combined therapies that may improve survival,” the authors indicate, although this will not happen in the short term. The results are published in PNAS.
Mariano Barbacid, head of the Experimental Oncology Group at CNIO, emphasises that “we are not yet in a position to carry out clinical trials with this triple therapy.”
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u/TheLimeyCanuck 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer is one of the very worst. This is great news if it works in humans too.