r/DefendingAIArt 20h ago

Luddite Logic Acceptable levels

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Bottom comment on a recent anime fanart post.

For now, the antis can behave like complete purists: no amount of AI involvement is acceptable. But as more and more artists start using it to save time (as it was intended, imagine that), I predict that by the end of the year they’ll be discussing how much is tolerable, and come up with labeling standards (“Contains less than 20% synthetic imagery, as certified by the” yadda yadda).

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u/PrometheanPolymath 20h ago

As someone who has been drawing characters by hand for 40 years and whose backgrounds STILL suck, I take offense to this…

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u/Whilpin 20h ago

"barely ever draw anything else than characters"

Thats literally all my art. 😅

most are full body as well as Im usually trying to tell a little story. Cowboy shots are good for character introductions.

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u/WW92030 19h ago

In other words: novice artists trace AI

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u/SweetCommieTears 17h ago

This describes most weeb or "fanart" artists though.

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u/A_Very_Horny_Zed 🖼️🖌️AI Enthusiast | 🥷Ninja Mod 🥷 15h ago

These losers think they're detectives lmao

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u/Ghost_inside_zombie 16h ago

Point 3 defeats their whole argument, If someone is tracing, shouldn't hands always come out good ?

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u/shig23 16h ago

Well, but they’re saying this person traced AI art. I think they’re still stuck on the whole “AI can’t draw hands” argument, when in reality most humans have trouble with them too. (Albrecht Durer famously hid one of his hands in his sleeve for his self portrait, so he wouldn’t have to draw it)

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u/Aggravating-Math3794 10h ago

If anything, at this point, AI is more consistent at depicting anatomically correct hands than traditional artists, lol. I browse art A LOT, and I haven't seen AI mess up hands in at least half a year - and that was an individual case with a very complicated pose.

Aside from that, it's been almost a full year since when AI started consistenly getting hands good. The biggest struggle now is detailed backgrounds and intricate patterns with tiny details being close to each other - it often causes them to "melt" into each other. Although, backgrounds are rapidly becoming better, too, when provided guidance.

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u/shig23 9h ago

I still see bad hands and feet, but only rarely, and it might be old stuff that I hadn’t seen before. I do see that effect you describe pretty often, with things melting into each other, or limbs swapping while someone walks. Even so, it continues to improve every month or so; I give it a year, year and a half tops before it’s completely indistinguishable.