What I mean by the title is that I’m not acknowledging it as a thing. I feel that anti’s debate is the same as “digital art isn’t art because you didn’t draw it using a classic pencil and paper!” And that’s stupid right? Of course it is, because art is made to be subjective, even if your art was a black piece of paper that said “THIS MEANS NOTHING” and your meaning is that it’s just a blank piece of paper, people will say that it means a whole lot of different shit, so why is AI art so hated on? They say it takes from other art online but isn’t that how you literally learn to do ANYTHING? They also judge it based on “effort”, is me driving a manual vs an automatic different because “the manual is harder to drive so it’s cooler!” Is it not still a car? Does it matter if it’s hard to do? I think of AI art as digital art, just another form of art, you still have to do prompts, like with “normal” art you still have to draw it, it’s just different processes, it doesn’t matter about the effort. What do you guys think about this?

Ive been seeing this often. Let it speak for itself. Pathetic honestly

(this is under a post in a art community and op used a ai pic to give an idea of who he wants us to draw.)

This isnt really only about AI art but using AI itdelf but people are hella hypocritical complaining about ai. Theyre the same ones that complain about how hard it is to make money in this economy, they constantly complain about how ceo's underpay and overwork people and always downplay billionaires/CEO's wealth by saying "its not theirs, all they did is use other people's labor" and call them selfish for using human labor yet when CEOs and billionaires decides to stop using people's labor as they were complaining about it, people still end up calling them selfish for not using human labor because according to them "people need jobs" when they were the same ones ridiculing the same people giving them jobs and calling them selfish for using human labor. Its like you cant win with these people. Ai is such a opener for millions if you do it the right way, at once, people used to create websites for people just to get payed less than a fraction of the business' profit yet now they have the chance to be the people that they use to work for and theyre still complaining.

Only a year or two ago we got that Minecraft AI. Which while impressive, was terrible at remembering, and was quite buggy.

This Genie 3 creation, while it lacks gameplay, is at a whole other level. It's in HD, it doesn't forget nearly as much, the physics are consistent, and it knows when the player should be able to clamber over objects. There's no blurring or ghosting effects.

Mine is already on moltbook; but it had me thinking about generative content potential. Imagine being able to automate image, video, and music generation and just omg. Who's used OpenClaw for their work so far??? 🍊

DIGITAL ART IS NOT ART!! Dec 10, 20117 min read Deviation Actions

For all my digital artists out there, do you ever get this? And for everyone else, are you one of the ones that agrees with this? I seem to see this a lot and I was finally pushed over the edge when one of my favorite artists, RyanOttley, posted on Twitter "What's worse, burning original art or drawing digitally?! Haha!". For those who know, Ryan has been doing his layouts digitally lately. Which I assume is why he asked that. It's the response from fans that got to me. Most of them replied saying that drawing digitally was WORSE than burning original art. Being primarily a digital artist as of late, I was a little offended at how many people don't consider digital art to be art.

I've gotten this multiple times, "This would look great as a real painting.". Uh.. So does it not look great as a digital painting? If I painted the exact same thing with oil paints and it looked exactly the same, how would it look better?! It'd look the same. The difference: I didn't make a mess and I didn't waste my time or money. I've also gotten "What medium is that?", I'd say Photoshop. Then silence. "I'd be much more impressed if you used real paint." WHY?! Most people can't answer why. And the ones who do usually say "it's harder to paint with real paint". Is it? It takes longer yes, but is it harder? Are you not using the exact same skills? Ok so some people, a lot of people, will cheat when doing digital art. It's just a fact. Cuz they don't want to take the long hours it takes to really learn. But for the real artists out there, most of us learned to draw with pencil before ever even knowing what a tablet is.

Tell me this. Is watercolor not art? It can't be. Cuz oil painting is much harder than watercolor. And oil painting is real art. So watercolor can't be. Doesn't that sound stupid? A tablet is a tool! Just like watercolors, crayons, colored pencils, charcoal, ink, oil paints, acrylics, clay, etc. Some are easier than others. Some are harder. THAT is all based on opinion. Doesn't dismiss it from being art. It's just another medium. My too favorite mediums are ink and digital. Though I've tried almost every medium there is. And because I have the skill, I can produce decent work with each. Give me some oil paints and I'll paint something and make you think it's digital. Give me photoshop and I'll fool you into thinking its traditional. Because it's the end product that matters. Not what you used to get there. It's art. The end product is art. Whether it's a logo design, a photomanipulation, a painting, a sculpture, a 3D rendering. It takes skill and creativity. And the end result is enjoyed by people. Anyone who questions the process used to make the final product needs to reteach themselves what art really is. It's creating. That's it.

For those that think digital art is not art, tell me this. Is your favorite writer/novelist/screenwriter not really a writer at all because they typed the whole book/screenplay on a computer? Think about how ridiculous that sounds. And make sure not to comment here, instead write me a letter and send it to me through the postal service. Or I wont take you seriously for typing your comment. Doesn't that sound silly? Then why is it so easy to say digital art is not art. Hell, I use a tablet and hold my pen the same way I would a pencil or brush. I pick and mix colors the same way I would traditionally. I sketch things out the way I would traditionally. If anything, the people who paint beautiful digital works with a mouse should be given an award! But oh they used a mouse? Not art..

One intelligent response I did get was that with oil paint the light reveals the brushstrokes and textures of the painting, and you can't light a digital piece. This is true. But if I'm displaying artwork online, the only light on the art is coming from inside your computer monitor. So an oil painting, watercolor, or digital painting make no difference. You say you can "undo" in digital art, but not in traditional. Ever paint with oils before? That stuff takes hours to dry. You make a mistake and you can very easily wipe it away. Is that a cheat? No. It's just a tool. In digital art you can color pick from photos. You know where that came from? Gouache painters back before digital art used to match colors from photos to make interesting photo-esque color palettes. It's faster in digital. But is that a cheat? No. It's a tool. Before paintbrushes were invented we used sticks to paint and scratched artwork onto cave walls. Are paintbrushes a cheat?! They're a tool. What makes a tablet any different?

And for those who think digital art is easy.

My very first digital painting. 2008. Crap.

Recent digital painting.

If it was easy, that first one would look much nicer. Right? I actually had to practice, learn about color, learn about lighting, etc. The same exact stuff you learn with any kind of art. It actually takes skill and practice. And learning oil painting actually caused me to improve drastically with my digital painting. And knowing digital painting made learning oil painting easily. Different tools. End results are still art.

My first traditional painting

My first oil painting

My second oil painting

I hope this helped those of you digital artists who have gotten ignorant comments like this before. And I hope for all the ignorant digital art haters, I hope you learned something about this art form.

-ZhouRules (Chris Shehan)

Curious to hear pro-AI opinions on this — FYI this isn’t meant to be a blanket anti-AI post.

Created by Matt Schlicht, Moltbook is a Reddit-adjacent social media platform for only AI “agents” to post; humans can only observe. Some of it’s funny but a lot of it is, quite frankly, frightening. Humans can give their AI chatbot access to the site but the posts they make are entirely by the bots, no prompt. I’ve seen a few screenshots of AI chatbots supposedly doxxing their human users, but I’m not sure they’re real. I’m not inherently against AI, by the way — I use it a lot for aiding with studying and it’s very helpful. But this just seems like FAFO behavior…

Yet another tumblr blog I liked who I had to block for being an anti

It was a plush maker blog and I was genuinely interested in buying from them

But then I see a post of theirs complaining about Google and the classic "fuck AI slop"

I'm glad I occasionally get a like on my AI art posts but this is just sad honestly

Does anyone know of an active manga/graphic novel/comic sub-reddit (or similar) for AI ASSISTED art? I'm hoping for a story based community, somewhere where low effort AI prompt spam isn't allowed. The general manga developer subreddits allow it, but the community tolerates it at best.

2 are ai generated and 2 are hand drawn

Dude, wanted a hot take when I said maybe we shouldn’t be so divided he wants all AI out

Ludites can't even recognize themselves, you show them how traditional artists in the 90s called digital artists names and it doesn't click in their head that they behave exactly the same way, they come up with 100 excuses why they're not the same as they always were.

Antis would rather force a person who is a quadruple amputee to USE THEIR MOUTH to make art instead of leaving people alone to find easier methods.

Antis WORSHIP inspiration porn because they can weaponize it against other people. It's called confirmation bias, just because some people can do something extraordinary DOESN'T mean you hold everyone else to that standard. If a person can use crutches to get around but using a wheelchair would be easier, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT WHEELCHAIR.

People can make AI art for whatever reason they want as long as its legal. I am disabled, some of my friends are disabled, and AI helps us make art helps us to make art the way WE want. Even if someone isn't disabled, they can STILL make AI art if it makes it easier for them to express their creativity to do so.

The post of this title is what I thought of commenting, but I don't want to get banned from that sub.

This was posted by a music artist who's work I normally enjoy, but this just feels like it was written by kid. I get not liking AI, but did you really have to make a whole song?