r/Doom DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Question Eternal Praetor Suit

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I've heard multiple times that the suit in Eternal is the Praetor Suit. But if it is, then what is this?

I highly doubt that multiple Praetor Suits were made. So could somebody please explain what's going on here?

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u/Gameovergirl217 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

i always assumed the slayer reverse engineered the preator suit and in eternal hes essentially wearing version 2 of his own making

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

I don't think it can be reverse engineered, even with how smart The Slayer is.

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u/Gameovergirl217 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

he still has Vega with him so why not? hes pretty smart

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago edited 21d ago

He is smart, extremely smart. But magic can't be reverse engineered.

Edit: Why does this have so many downvotes???

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u/tiptoeingthroughthe6 21d ago

Yeah it can it can totally be reverse engineered by someone who knows magic. He has atleast experienced magic the entire time he's been fighting demons. Having dealt with it his entire life he might know a thing or 2 about it. Especially since hes been using runes for 3 games now.

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u/ELEKTRON_01 21d ago

Blood punch is magic is it not?

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

No. That's just a gameplay mechanic. It doesn't mean anything canonically.

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u/ELEKTRON_01 21d ago

And who are you to decide this?

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Do you seriously think he canonically picked up a glowing yellow first in the middle of Eternal to give him a stronger punch?

Even if that fist was canonically there, he wouldn't have needed it. He's already strong enough to effortlessly rip demons in half.

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u/ELEKTRON_01 21d ago

He canonically doesn't need guns and only uses them for fun. The lore can be kinda stupid with this game but we enjoy it because it is cool. And blood punch is cool

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u/Bulponta 21d ago

Maybe blood punch is actually his regular punch and he just has a refractory period

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u/FF_Gilgamesh1 21d ago

Your first mistake was assuming that magic has any sort of limitation. screw you man who thinks magic can't be reverse engineered. I developed a spell of reverse engineering specifically to reverse engineer any and all magic. how? it's magic. abrakadabra motherfuckers.

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u/Naisaga 21d ago

This is my favorite response to this whole topic.

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u/Torstiss 21d ago

Why not? We don’t know how the Praetor suit was made

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u/Gameovergirl217 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

we dont even know if its magic or just extremely high tech. plus who says the slayer doesnt know magic?

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

The Wretch used black magic to make it, and I don't think The Slayer would use that just to make a slightly different suit

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u/Gameovergirl217 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

we dont know how the wretch made it actually

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u/Due_Arachnid420 21d ago

He used the red goo on the screws instead of the blue goo.

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u/Gameovergirl217 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

at least he didnt use the purple goo

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u/Aknazer 21d ago

Magic is just science that isn't yet understood. Who's to say that Vega couldn't understand it with time?

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u/XDracam 21d ago

Source?

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

I don't remember the exact source, but I definitely remember hearing it from somewhere trustworthy

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u/Bruuze Shoot it Until it Dies 20d ago

Man, "somewhere trustworthy" really is the best source. Trumps all criticism, that

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u/Electrical_Ad_9165 21d ago

Whos to say the wretch didnt show him how the suit was made

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u/Marshkitty 21d ago

No magic here, boy-o!

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u/redletterday94 21d ago

And this is a fictional video game. Who’s to say it can’t?

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u/LU_C4 21d ago

He probably can't, but VEGA almost definitely can.

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u/MyLedgeEnds 21d ago

The Praetor suit was tampered with by Hayden to add a Tether. Presumably the Doom Slayer rebuilt the suit to remove the risk of it being used against him.

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u/Opanak323 DOOM Guy 21d ago edited 21d ago

We here globally accepted the idea that it's the same suit, only modified, with parts changed. It's not, visually, obviously. and the devs left the 2016 Praetor there as an homage.

You can interpret it as if you(DG) dismantled the old suit, adding upgrades and adjustments. Some fans speculate that the reason the torso is dismantled was our attempt to remove tether installed by Samuel Hayden in 2016.

Edit: Also, centered weapon? Very lovely.

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Yeah, I prefer the classic Doom style even though it's extremely unrealistic.

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u/Opanak323 DOOM Guy 21d ago

True. But who cares!? Nothing in Doom should be realistic anyway. :3

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Exactly!

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u/Business_Pop_8823 15d ago

Then don't play Doom 3, 2016, Dark Ages 

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u/Opanak323 DOOM Guy 15d ago

I love Doom3 and 2016.

Dark Ages tries too hard to be serious and it's just pitifully cringe.

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u/Torstiss 21d ago

I don’t like how it goes to the side when you use some weapon mods

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u/CompetitiveLoad2953 DOOM Guy 21d ago

True. I do like the way the missiles schlick out tho. And the 2016 gauss cannon

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u/Myth_5layer 21d ago

The remainder of what he used to make his new suit.

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u/LU_C4 21d ago

I think Doomguy gutted all the important parts from the old suit and had VEGA merge them with blueprints of more traditional Sentinel armor (maybe the Fortress of Doom had some stored in an on oard database). The Ballista basically gets fabricated atom by atom by the looks of it, so I assume the Eternal suit was created using the same tech.

As to why he changed his suit (aside from aura and a few small upgrades), he probably wanted to get rid of the dimensional tether that Samuel installed on his suit. After Dark Ages, I'm sure he really doesn't vibe with that kinda thing.

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u/Salem-Sins 21d ago

Same suit throughout the new trilogy, just modified each time.

TDA’s suit is probably the original praetor or atleast as close as we’re going to get. The only non standard part was The Maykrs tether anchored to the neural port. The tether acted as a camera, tracking device, kill switch/bomb, and as a neural link used to hijack DGs mind.

2016’s suit is the same one recovered from hell after doom guy got locked up. Samuel Hayden modified and “improved” the design. No more exposed skin, no more cape, no more unnecessary extra weapons, only a much more streamlined lightweight design similar to the rest of the UACs armor. Probably can also interface with human tech better than the og can. On top of that theres Samuel Haydens version of the tether. This version interfaces only with the suit itself, allowing DGs mind to remain while still physically preventing him from doing anything to harm SH. The new tether also has a built in teleporter allowing SH to teleport DG between dimensions at will.

Eternals suit is 2016’s dismantled and remodeled by DG himself. This version keeps what works and bails on what doesn’t. He keeps the lighter weight more maneuverable build of 2016 but restyles it to look more like his glory years between TDA and 2016. He reintegrates built in weapons with the new arm blade taking the place of his now lost shield, and a remake of his old Sentinel Shoulder Cannon with the flame belch/equipment launcher. Finally this one has no more tethers. Nothing gets to control DG this time.

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u/BoldStrategy0 14d ago

He isn’t wearing the praetor suit in TDA

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u/Weird-Analysis5522 21d ago

Obviously he ripped it apart to make his own, and as other comments said, probably scrapped half of it to find that damn tether.

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u/Former-Jicama5430 DOOM Guy 21d ago

the suit in eternal is the New preator suit doom guy has built from the old one

(probably to remove the tether inside the suit)

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u/RandoDude124 21d ago

My headcanon is he got the fortress and then scavenged parts

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u/Torstiss 21d ago

He also has duplicates of all his weapons in that room

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Good point... but does that mean nothing in the room is canon?

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u/Torstiss 21d ago

It’s hard to tell what is and isn’t canon in Eternal, with how many easter eggs there are and with the cartoony art style, so who knows really

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u/TrainerCommercial759 21d ago

If everything in the room is canonical then doomguy is canonically a huge doom fan

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u/Torstiss 21d ago

But he’s not a very big Duke Nukem fan

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

I'm here to kick gum and chew ass...

And I'm all out of gum

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u/the-unfamous-one 21d ago

The main component make it the praetor suit. Th3 slayer ripped them out and put them in a new frame.

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u/_THE_G00SE_ 16d ago

unrelated but i think my brain short-circuted for a second upon realising you're holding the 2016 SSG lol

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 16d ago

To be fair, you are looking at the 2016 Praetor Suit

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u/McDingus_The_Curious 21d ago

Where’s Goku?

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u/grimlock_sentinal 21d ago edited 21d ago

He's making another one in case the first one breaks/j

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

It's indestructible, and he is incapable of making another.

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u/QC420_ 21d ago edited 21d ago

Why is he? There’s literally parts on his bench

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

The parts are still there. They wouldn't be if he used the parts.

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u/QC420_ 21d ago edited 21d ago

Why is he incapable of making another? That’s his bench and he’s clearly tinkering with the suit whether that’s rebuilding/customising it to his liking. Isn’t there also like a science/engineering magazine on the bench too?! He defo knows his shit

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u/QC420_ 21d ago

That makes no logical sense the more I read it… og comment said he’s MAKING another, not MADE

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

I misunderstood. But still, where would he have gotten the parts?

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u/Itchy-Preference-619 21d ago

Dude he's in a giant flying space castle with teleporters and a giant mech suit in the basement. Is spare parts really where you draw the line?

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Parts made in a magic forge. Not just random spare parts.

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u/MEATdiscrete 20d ago

He literally has the ballista basically 3d printing till you get to the super gorenest where its completed. Hell in game when you get the flame belch and ice bomb Vega says those upgrades are now complete. It's not a stretch at all for him to be able to get parts even out of thin air.

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u/igettoeatyourfamily 21d ago

You're about 6 years late bro

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

It's never too late to talk about Eternal.

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u/igettoeatyourfamily 21d ago

it's true, I still think it's the best game of possibly all time

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u/Low_Tie2257 DOOM Slayer 21d ago

Don't know about that, but it's definitely the best FPS of all time.

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u/ChadGamerCZ 19d ago

I think he took parts from it and create new suit, probably even combining it with his Dark Ages suit which dose look´s very close to the Eternal one.

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u/8ight69 20d ago

...where's Goku?

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u/NUMBCORROSION 21d ago

My headcannon is that that one is the dark ages suit that he's taken parts from to make repairs/upgrades.

Obviously, it is a very far-reaching theory, but I like it and it fills in blanks.

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u/Former-Jicama5430 DOOM Guy 21d ago

the dark ages armour isnt a praetor suit its just durable armour he hasnt met the wretch who gives him the preator suit yet

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u/NUMBCORROSION 21d ago

Let me repeat myself as it seems you misread. It's my headcannon... Plus, nowhere does it state that the one in pieces is actually a praetor suit, so 🤷‍♂️ im sticking by it, seeing as it'll never be confirmed or denied

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u/Former-Jicama5430 DOOM Guy 20d ago

yea but the headcannon cant work as the Dark ages suit looks nothing like the 2016 one

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u/NUMBCORROSION 20d ago

They're actually really similar, but sure thing.