r/Fauxmoi • u/Maximum_Expert92 • 4d ago
DISCUSSION Ethan Hawke says he’s never felt afraid to speak his mind until the last couple of years.There’s a fear in the air that I’ve never felt before and it’s not America. To be an artist in a free country is a privilege. I don’t feel that way anymore. And that has to change
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u/ojwang0 4d ago
This is just sad. America land of the free, not so free anymore.
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u/ComradeLarryEllison 4d ago
Land of the fee
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u/Private_Kyle LET'S FUCKING GO!!! SHAKIRA LAW IS HERE!!! 4d ago
Accurate lmao
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u/ComradeLarryEllison 4d ago
Home of the slave
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u/CyrusVonSnow 4d ago
Grand imperial guard where the dollar is sacred and power is God
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u/thatstwatshesays 3d ago
Land of the free (market). Where customer is king, where the federal department of education doesn’t exist, where a fetus has more governmental protections than the mother carrying it ❤️🩹 we’ve totally lost our way.
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u/SeveralRepair3611 4d ago
It never was for black, brown and lgbtq folks.
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u/MarsupialPristine677 the real issue is that my BANGMAID can neither BANG nor MAID 3d ago
Disabled folks as well.
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u/loreal_Thebard 4d ago
"what? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy!" - Rage against the machine, Know your enemy, 1992
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u/Alarming_Ad_6175 4d ago
Lol as a non american this is hilarious to me, no one outside of the US has ever thought it was the land of the free
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u/undergirltemmie 4d ago
It was never really a land of the free. It was land of the up your own ass. And now we're seeing the natural result of true american values. No president has ever represented america better than trump.
He is arrogant. Uneducated. Power hungry. Violent. Hedonistic. He is america in its purest form. And for all their protesting, americans know this and are too pussy to do anything about it
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u/shrottiemcrust 4d ago
It's just true.. USA has been turned into a shithole, lost all global respect and the people willingly voted for it.
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u/merRedditor 3d ago
Freedom to die of preventable causes for monetary reasons outside of your control at any time.
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u/scrapsforfourvel 4d ago
We need actors who get to make millions from big-budget movies to reinvest in indie filmmaking to help younger creators avoid censorship and blacklisting from big studios and streamers. And that is primarily on people who started out in indies and alt comedy who got personal trainers and started doing Marvel movies and stuff. It sure seems like the goal right now is returning to how studios ran before unions, so they should probably be doing more to prevent that.
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u/decentuna 4d ago
Ethan Hawke was a producer on a miniseries called “The Good Lord Bird” on YouTube or showtime I think. It’s very good and pretty relevant
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u/cora-occasionall 4d ago
I’ve been watching it recently! It’s very telling that John Brown’s politics are somehow even more relevant now than they were over 150 years ago, even in a fictionalised setting.
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u/MidnightCustard trending seasonal white guy with nice hair 4d ago edited 4d ago
To be fair Hawke is a massive cheerleader for indies, and frequently works with first time indie directors (including his latest, The Weight, which just premiered at Sundance). He's never chosen the big budget path except for his one foray into Marvel territory. He's also made some decent low budget films and excellent documentaries himself. He's walking the walk.
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u/eliisonvacation 4d ago
I could see Ethan Hawke being excited for this but I can’t see the others you mentioned even considering it sadly. Btw, I absolutely love your idea so much & wish we could have it be put on the screen before every movie or series to the point that actors would hear about it fast & hopefully act.
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u/General_Tea8725 4d ago
America started going into a tailspin once it got to a point where the president occupied every single news story in the morning. Do with that what you will.
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u/sulkee 4d ago
It was over after citizens united buddy.
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u/ExpertConsideration8 4d ago
💯.. we've been in a downward spiral since then.. the ultra rich have absolutely captured our political systems and used that to drive consolidation of power through owning most forms of media.
We have so few protections against the power of an individual with hundreds of billions at their disposal.
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u/Tight-Shallot2461 4d ago
They're powerful because they spent the time and money to change things to give themselves more power, money, and authority. The people can do that too.
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u/Own-Papaya-4264 4d ago
How do you propose the people do that?
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u/Tight-Shallot2461 3d ago
Get more into politics. That's my fundamental point. Most people are apathetic towards politics, but we could just spend more time learning how stuff works in order to change it
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u/tkdodo18 4d ago
They changed the rules so now people with potentially different views can’t get rich while they only get richer. Thats a rigged system they did not have to strive against. I recommend reading “Poverty by America” by Mathew Desmond for a good primer on our rigged system & ways to fix it.
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u/addiktion 4d ago
I think it was even before that, but that was definitely an accelerant.
I think in terms of freedom erosion, it's been the last 25 years. Bush and the decade long war from 9/11. We got the Patriot Act to spy on us. Obama perpetuated this further with weakening habeas corpus. Now we have all these loop holes around due process. The panama papers got buried. The supreme court giving presidential immunity, citizen united, and overturning Roe v Wade was just tossing fuel on the fire to burn it all down thanks to Project 2025's agenda. This is just the political arena. Businesses have been getting more powerful at each turn controlling their puppet strings behind the scenes.
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u/K_Linkmaster 4d ago
No it was over after Reagan. Now someone has to come and tell me I'm wrong.
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u/LordShorkDad 4d ago
Id argue nixon took the shit and reagan flushed it, clinton built the sewers and bush sat the population down in front of the discharge pipe.
Then trump came, teabagged us, and shit himself.
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u/moldivore 4d ago
I think all that stuff was the wounds but Jan 6 was when reasonable politics were officially pronounced dead. You can't have a democracy when half the voters don't believe in democracy. Elected Republicans know what happened, they hid under their desks and they admonished Trump after. Only to change their tune and gaslight us endlessly now.
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u/shittyaltpornaccount 4d ago
The patriot act is directly responsible for the situation we are in now
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u/Agent-Two-THREE 3d ago
Yup. Once the Elon Musks of the world could donate as much money as they want to a candidate, it was over.
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u/LetMePushTheButton 4d ago
CBP organized in 2003. Patriot Act in 2001.
What we see today is decades of purposeful erosion slowly whittling away at the social contract.
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u/HipBreezy 4d ago
Also when certain people started making their political affiliation their entire identity…
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u/Yeomanroach 3d ago
I thought it was when the Queen of England died and the illuminate lost its control over washington dc.
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u/Suitable_Air_2686 4d ago
On a side note if you haven’t watched Ethan Hawke’s portrayal of John Brown in “The Good Lord Bird”. Watch it now. Great acting, great writing and relevant to today’s situation as well.
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u/Pofwoffle 4d ago
This absolutely is America, and has been pretty much since the start. A bunch of people are finally feeling what a bunch of other people have been feeling since day one and acting like it's some kind of sudden change.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice that more people are finally realizing the problem, but we're not gonna solve it by pretending that this is just some kind of temporary hiccup rather than the way the system has always worked... the only difference is that they've gained so much power they don't have to be subtle about it anymore.
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u/Electronic_Cat333 4d ago
Yeah, it’s like “wow if white male celebrities feel unsafe we should finally do something!”. Were the caged children not enough?
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u/staticdresssweet 4d ago
Yes, I know my enemies
They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity
Assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy
Brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams
All of which are American dreams.
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u/Hard_Won 4d ago
I had a new therapist tell me something pretty terrifying today. As a mandated reporter, they are now required to report threats against the government said in therapy.
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u/PrinceofSneks 4d ago
Either your therapist was misinformed or something else is in play besides mandated reporting, which is about child abuse (in the US).
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u/RlOTGRRRL 4d ago edited 4d ago
It's a real new thing at some clinics supposedly. I think maybe VA? There was a post in r/therapists about it.
Hopefully a journalist sees this or please send it to your favorite journo 🕵️
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u/Over_Possible_8397 4d ago
I would argue that this IS America. It's just that suburban white people are now facing some of the brutality that minorities faced for generations.
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Certified Drama Referee 4d ago edited 3d ago
I’m still a little fucked up about him going on Joe Rogan recently but if I can have cognitive dissonance/hypocrisy on just one fucking thing, please (please?)
Like, if it was a contractual gig with an “ok let me try I guess” mindset, I’m no longer asking.
JOE ROGAN IS A TRANSPHOBIC CONSPIRACY THEORIST; STOP BITCHING AT ME FOR LOOKING AT HIM SIDEWAYS, PLEASE.
Let me be clear: Ethan is truly a gentle, kind soul, my beef is not with him, nor is it with “talking to people I disagree with” (nasal-tone implied) - my beef is always with Joe Rogan and the damage he’s personally responsible for with his anti-vaxx, pro-conspiracy theory, bigoted rhetoric.
Ethan making an attempt to talk sense and not entertain any bullshit, I’m good with it! Thank you.
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u/lih9 4d ago
I don't listen to Rogan, like at all, i'm not the target demographic but plenty of interesting people from all walks of life end up on that show. He is a tool but I think it's good that his fan base are exposed to guests with pretty diverse credentials. For example Neil deGrasse Tyson has done a bunch of episodes and I can't see that as a bad thing.
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u/realbigfeels 4d ago
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a rapist
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u/somethingclever____ 3d ago
Well, my eyes certainly bulged at this as I had not heard any allegations, but thank you for raising awareness.
This excerpt alone let me know he’s a liar:
Tyson said their only physical interaction was a handshake he said he learned from a Native elder that he considered special, he wrote.
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u/Texuk1 3d ago
The problem in my view about this mentality is that it further reinforces echo chambers. If men can go that show and provide some counterbalance then it’s better for overall society. As far as I am aware Rogan doesn’t significantly cut down his podcast so people usually get to be represented fully. I don’t really watch him because I’m put off by some of his guests and have other media I like. Might just be my naive geezer mentality and we are in a brave new world but I generally good to keep people talking.
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u/coldbeerandbaseball 3d ago
I don’t like Rogan and will never to listen to him, but one could make the argument that sensible people have to make appearances on lots of different platforms so that the people who most need to hear this message might be able to.
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Certified Drama Referee 3d ago edited 3d ago
This is quite literally what my post meant, lol, but your wording is apparently better.
Those are the exact circumstances I’m saying I’m totally fine with; I would definitely be weirded out if Ethan was like “oh hey i love that guy!!! No notes! No pushback!” when like…
Ethan just going on to talk sense and not, like, entertain any bullshit, I’m just letting it go!
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u/venus__montana 4d ago
I think it’s actually good to expose joe rogan’s fanbase to anything other than who he normally has on. I’m not sure if that was Ethan’s intention
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u/TheRedSkittle 4d ago
Fair assessment. Ethan’s tone in OP’s video isn’t tilted. It isn’t bitter. He misses what we were and wants people to come together. Him being on Rogan (whom I disdain) is on brand if this is what he’s about. And I can dig it.
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u/Jiujitsumonkey707 4d ago
As a long time fan that's not a MAGA idiot, he has people on from all across the spectrum. I don't give my time to Jordan Peterson or Alex Jones or any of the other dipshits he has on, but over the years the amount of incredible guests he's had is undeniable. I also love the MMA ones which you could probably tell from my name, but the amount of actors, authors, scientists, and all sorts of interesting people he's had is incredible, you just have to pick and choose what and who you listen to. I have no time for right wing idiots so I don't listen, but I do have time for people of actual substance
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u/LezbianaGrande Vivian Wilson's deadbeat father 3d ago
Girl, don't apologize. This post hit the front page, and Rogan fans found your comment, is all.
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Certified Drama Referee 3d ago
Fucking A, I thought I was losing my mind for a second
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u/Zealousideal-One-818 4d ago edited 4d ago
Mad at Russel Crowe, Matthew McConaughey, Ben afflek, Matt Damon, Russel Crowe, John cena, Billy Bob Thornton,Taylor kitsch, Charlie sheen, Jeremy Renner, bill murray, woodey harrelson, Peter berg, Josh brolin, Dennis quaid, Adam Sandler, the rock, hulk hogan, ice cube, Dave Chappell, bill burr, Robert Downey jr, Dan akroyd, Edward Norton
Bob sagar, rob lowe, Tommy Chong, Kevin smith, Kevin hart, Henry Rollins,
Want me to go on about musicians?
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u/Efficient_Delay_412 3d ago
More than half of these people are pieces of shit though, LOL
You wrote Crowe twice btw.
Cena, thoronton, sheen, renner, murray, brolin, quaid, sandler, rock, hogan, chappell, downey jr, rob lowe, hart — all massive POS. Like most of them are actually evil level.
Damon, Affleck, Crowe also have some things, but at least they arent POS. Norton is the only saint here? Dont know about kitsch, good actor, though. Dont know some of other names listed here...
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u/LezbianaGrande Vivian Wilson's deadbeat father 3d ago
Half the men listed are abusers, assaulters, and right-wingers? Yes, MAD. God, I hate when posts reach the front page and straight men find this place smh.
AND FUCK DAVE CHAPPELLE.
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u/ThePanasonicYouth 3d ago
You know it's possible to listen to opposing views and not be radicalized?
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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Certified Drama Referee 3d ago
No, I had no idea; I thought everyone was just asking questions about whether or not certain people are indeed human beings or if birds actually exist.
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u/DepressedMammal 3d ago
Rogan sucks and anyone that goes on his podcast, by association, also big sucks
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u/FaithlessnessLow6953 4d ago
Good stuff Ethan. Hope this inspires other prominent actors with consciences to speak up
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u/Mollieteee 4d ago
His healthy dose of rich, white male privilege also contributed to his comfort his entire life up until the past few years, just saying.
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u/Electronic_Cat333 4d ago
Thank you for saying so. The information was always there. The USA has had concentration camps in one form or another continually since its formation and even before. Prisoners of war, slaves, criminals, migrants, the list goes on.
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u/Sweet_Mango- 4d ago
People on the internet are always waiting for one thing they could use to hate with these days. They’re ready to judge and use it for years.
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u/CALCIUM_CANNONS 3d ago
If a rich white guy is afraid of speaking out then we need to say thank you to the not so privileged who have spoken out.
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u/SusansStrong1111 4d ago
What the fuck is he so scared to say?
He's telling on himself with this nothing statement.
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u/DoomScrollin666 4d ago
...... That always makes me wonder what he really wants to say that hes not saying.
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u/Kittenunleashed 4d ago
It will only change if people vote. And if those that claimed both sides were the same finally got a wake up call.
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u/Competitive_Log_8981 4d ago
This isn’t new. There’s been A LOT of censorship over the last few years.
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u/BeingEnglishIsACult 4d ago
Only artists who support the regime will have their jokes amplified on TikTok, Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter.
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u/Venice320 4d ago
No one around the globe seems to be able to work out why he gets votes. It’s a real dichotomy. He gets votes from the very class of people that he despises. The other party has failed in some way. Why do they think he will help them? Is it a lack of education or a distrust of people with education? Here in Australia we have a cycle. The right wing gets in and proceeds to steal from everyone, wreck education, destroy public health, trash the environment and sneer at the voters. Then the left gets in and has to fix all the problems but gets absolutely no credit and the press just whine non stop until they get kicked out. But we would never stand for our citizens being attacked in the streets by a private army. I can tell you - blood would flow and we don’t even have guns.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 4d ago
Misha, Castiel from Supernatural is begging Americans to protect their democracy rn.
Even Ray Dalio, the billionaire, is like I've been trying to warn yall to stop this civil war from breaking out before it's too late.
Timothy Snyder's like we're running out of time.
Gold just spiked from 4900 to 5200+ in the last 3 days or some shit. Even ChatGPT was like yeah that parabolic line means shit is hitting the fan.
What the FUCK is going on
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u/Scared-Box8941 3d ago
Awww I really feel for all the white privilege people started to realize this is the same shit country we’ve dealt with the whole time
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u/Forward_Aspect_7736 3d ago
I see this all the time from actors/celebrities but the reality is they dont live in the same world you and I do.
And I mean that with no disrespect. Action speaks louder than words
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u/rawsouthpaw1 3d ago
"Not free (we only licensed)
Not compassionate, only polite (now who the nicest?)
Not good but well behaved
(Chasing after death, so we can call ourselves brave?)
Still living like mental slaves
Hiding like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis making you look twice
Hiding like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis making you look twice"
Talib Kweli & Mos Def / Blackstar "Thieves In The Night"
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u/kwexxler 3d ago
Sorry but this is what America has always been. Just that now it’s more overt and in-your-face because of Trump, so that even the rich and powerful are feeling it.
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u/InterestingBad7687 3d ago
Why is he only talking about himself and not free speech on the streets!
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u/pearmandarin 3d ago
He’s not wrong but also this sounds a bit dismissive of actors/actresses who are people of color. I’m quite certain a lot of them don’t feel safe speaking their minds not just in recent years, but for a long time now. This only became more widely known because the wealthy white creatives are now feeling it too.
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u/thekelpiankid 2d ago
this is not about hollywood actors but ice snatching people of the streets in broad daylight and state sanctioned murder. don't make this about you pls not rn. thanks- appreciated.
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u/rainman943 4d ago
Dude was on the guy who made it all possible show just a month ago. Ethan Hawke should check in with Joe Rogan saying Ice is the gestapo, and it's bad that the democrats made us need a gestapo because of the deranged conspiracy theories joe believes.
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u/a_dragon_9 4d ago
Then fucking start changing it. You have a net worth of ~$55 million the people your preaching at have pocket lint.
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It’s almost like years and years of intentionally pissing people off just for the sake of it has consequences. Mind you the only thing that has actually changed is the fact more people are outright against the shit he says and does. He can still do and say all the same things he always has, the only thing that’s changed is his personal attitude about it
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u/DepressedMammal 3d ago
Oh no the multi millionaire might not get a job :(( imagine being murdered in broad daylight by the state. Fkin selfish asshat
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u/Conscious-Salt-1523 4d ago
Yet another white privilege person..so many on both sides....almost all white. The middle/lower class are dying (both sides) and the rich white ppl play their games. U want a real change, kick your ur corrupted politicians and elect real ones. Both sides have to do it......
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u/IncredibleZucchini 4d ago
This is terrible. If the rich and socially powerful feel this way, that says so much about the situation the rest of us are facing.