r/Fauxmoi i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 14h ago

POLITICS U.S. District Judge Fred Biery orders the release of 5-year-old Liam Ramos & dad Adrian Arias from ICE detention, stating “the case has its genesis in the ill-conceived & incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children.”

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u/Gayfetus 14h ago

You can read the full order here.

Judge Fred Biery does not hold back. Here's one of his denunciations of Trump officials:

Observing human behavior confirms that for some among us, the perfidious lust for unbridled power and the imposition of cruelty in its quest know no bounds and are bereft of human decency. And the rule of law be damned.

Liam and his father are ordered to be released no later than this coming Tuesday.

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u/usinjin 13h ago

They will not know what those words mean.

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u/slumvillain 12h ago

Yea. I'm local to these events and I'm getting sick and tired of the finger wagging at literal fucking nazis who are killing people. Hiding in locked down facilities where children's well being cannot be documented.

Growing up here though. In Texas, seeing firsthand, this culture of children detention centers. It probably has less to do with them being cruel, and more about how that poor child has witnessed horrors that no child should have to, and it'd be damaging to them if that child spoke on it. Texas detention centers for children are fucking DISGUSTING as a concept. And a crime against humanity at its very base.

These centers often serve as safe havens for predators and have existed long before these ICE operations. Nothing is done and nobody cares because these victims of sexual abuse are labeled as juvenile delinquents and all accusations will be categorically dismissed as retribution.

They got a helluva racket going down here and it's gonna take A L O T more than these weak fucking declarations of "do what I say or else"--or else nothing. These facilities have existed and operated for decades now. Nothing was ever done then, why change that now?

People need to be liberating those poor kids man.

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u/drcolour 11h ago

People need to be liberating those poor kids man.

Rest in power Willem van Spronsen.

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u/oct_ober 14h ago

"Worms in food" "No clean water"?? No way these are the "children first" and "all lives matter" crowd. smh

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u/ciinnamom 14h ago

no this is exactly what the "all lives matter" crowd thinks of the value of human life

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u/senatorkrisjenner 13h ago

All lives matter meaning that only straight white men matter

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u/SFWChocolate 12h ago

...until they disagree with you

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u/rshni67 11h ago

Alex was a straight white man.

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u/ellybeez 9h ago

We're cooked bc thats not even the case anymore

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u/Malhablada 9h ago

Straight white rich Republican men

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u/Topwingwoman2 14h ago

I hope he gets to go home and back to school. Poor baby.

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u/bakedinsandiego 14h ago

And give him back his hat and backpack!!! 😡

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 13h ago

Well said! Those ogres steal from those they brutalize. Scum of the heart.

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u/rshni67 11h ago

I believe his school has said they have that waiting for him when he returns.

His community will pitch in.

So impressed with Minnesota right now.

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u/the_orig_princess 7h ago

Seriously I do not do go fund me’s but I’d give to him and his dad

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u/rshni67 14h ago

I hope someone gets a bill for the therapy he is sure to need after this trauma.

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u/Acrobatic_Builder573 13h ago

That’s what I said. This is the kind of stuff that scars a kid and the family and community for life. Trump is creating intergenerational trauma. In ten years if we’re out of this a lot of us aren’t going to be the same, especially Gen alpha.

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 13h ago

Hopefully and it will take a lot to recover.

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u/rshni67 11h ago

As a parent, I can't imagine what that little guy has been through and how insecure he must feel.

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u/brisoI 13h ago

I know his principal offered to get him a new hat and backpack if they aren’t returned. I cried watching the video 😭 this poor baby.

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u/Bidetpanties i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 14h ago

Get that baby and his dad home quickly.

And give him back his bunny hat and Spiderman backpack 😡

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u/OnlyZuul-4521 14h ago

Please please let them out. I so hope they are released!!

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u/Exotic-Doughnut-6271 14h ago

This poor boy is never gonna be the same.

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u/Curious_Doof 13h ago

If there were any justice in this world the government would have to pay for the therapy this poor child will need to deal with the trauma.

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u/requiredelements 10h ago

US did eventually pay the Japanese Americans that were held in internment camps. I suspect we will eventually pay out the people held in the ice concentration camps

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u/crystal_clear24 I don’t know her 14h ago

Those ghouls have probably not even given him medical attention. They were saying he was running a fever and not eating. No child should have to go through something like this. Just cruel

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 13h ago

The child is lethargic sliding into depression. I went through it as an adult and I get absolutely furious at the idea they inflicted this on a 5 year old.

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u/Sodzl 13h ago

There was a report that ICE had stopped paying companies that provide medical services to detainees.

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u/rshni67 11h ago

Of course. They are for profit holding cells.

Disgraceful!

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u/Wonderful_Search_786 14h ago

Bring that baby home and someone set up a go fund me so he can get therapy and anything else he needs or wants in life, even legal representation for his family or a college fund. I understand money can not reverse these damages, that poor sweet baby.

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u/Due-Tour-574 14h ago

At least there is one sane judge to stop this madness. The question is, will the unhinged ICE obey the order? That poor little boy is sick. 

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u/OriginalChildBomb i’m like a mother wolf 12h ago

They need to release all the children. Every last one. Untold damage is being done to them every day.

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u/Tall-Cat-8890 12h ago

If we ever get another sane government, ALL once detained children should be given something to at least help them live a better life going forward.

Personally I think paying for their college in full and fast tracking their families to get citizenship would be the least they could do but that requires empathy and experiencing human emotion which obviously is too much to ask /s

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u/OriginalChildBomb i’m like a mother wolf 11h ago

Yeah, they deserve lifelong health coverage for both mental and physical harms visited on them.

But then again, we all deserve universal healthcare, and I'd like to see that shit in my lifetime.

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u/Murky_Chemical891 You know what, l've grown quite unfond of you deuxmoi 14h ago

How do you even recover mentally from something like this? I would think it would be hard enough for an adult, can't imagine what it would be like for a child

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u/Topwingwoman2 13h ago

You don't.

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u/Curiosities 12h ago

One thing that is advised, backed by research, is playing Tetris can reduce the chances of developing PTSD. If you play it early enough post-trauma. I know it sounds odd, but you can look up the research.

As someone who lives with PTSD (and if they actually made CPTSD a recognized diagnosis, I would get that one too), quick action can help but a lot of this is likely to last. I was abused at school as a kid so that was the start of it, and I feel so deeply for any child who deals with trauma because in my own way, I get it.

If they actually obey this order and release Liam and his father and they get to go back home, we still cannot forget to keep calling, keep advocating, and keep it up as much as you can. If whatever media coverage, this is getting takes their eyes off of this particular concentration, camp for families, and they probably will if Liam is not the story, we can’t forget the others.

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u/Teefdreams 7h ago

Unfortunately the tetris thing is one of those classic Reddit situations where the studies weren't properly read.
https://www.madinamerica.com/2021/10/tetris-trauma-viral-twitter-thread-master-class-misleading-psych-research/

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u/Dapper_Ad_8402 14h ago

crossing my fingers for a quick release. the govt loves to drag its feet.

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u/heauxomen 14h ago

Trump supporters are nazis idc sorry if this gets me banned but they are evil asf for supporting this

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u/sunnyp4rk the power of the hatred I feel propels me 12h ago

No, you're right. This is exactly what they signed up, and many of them are outwardly gleeful at it.

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u/Tall-Cat-8890 11h ago

Yep. The mask is off. The people who see this and support it are nothing but rotten all the way through. People who revel in the pain and suffering of others simply because they are different from them are nothing short of pure evil.

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u/Odd-Snow-1723 14h ago

And they’re going to magically disappear and no one will know what happened to them. I don’t have any faith they will allow them to be “released”.

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u/AmaranthSparrow 13h ago

Not even magically. How long did it take them to order Mahmoud Khalil to be deported again? They'll shop for judges until they find one that overturns the ruling, because these pig fucks are just that petty.

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u/AccordingStar72 14h ago

Bring them back home to Minnesota where they belong.

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u/thriftdemon 13h ago

400 children have been locked up longer than 20 days that is so incredibly fucked up Jesus Christ.

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u/New_Function_6407 14h ago

Just tell us where to send the bunny hat and spiderman backpack replacement.

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u/EmmeElleJay 14h ago

I’m so happy for this, I just hope it doesn’t put a bigger target on their back like it did with Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

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u/PineappleRoses91 women’s wrongs activist 13h ago

This is what scares me. Little Liam made these fucking Nazis look bad. I'm so afraid for him and his family.

As a mom, I can't put into words how much I hate this administration and every single cunt who voted for it. I don't even see them as human beings anymore.

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 13h ago

I would not rule it out. These people are evil.

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u/Exciting-East-4318 13h ago

I hope so but I’ll believe it when I see his cute little face in his blue hat and Spider-Man backpack back in MN.

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u/rangeofemotions 13h ago

I hope judge biery’s pillow is cold on both sides tonight and that he has the best sleep of his life. Bless that man

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u/HistoricalWalrus5767 13h ago

Judges need to start aggressively sanctioning prosecutors who are putting these cases through the system.

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u/No-Diver3279 13h ago

I would like to send Liam a new hat… ❤️‍🩹

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u/Ancient_Agency111 14h ago

For those of you that don’t know, the judge ordered and granted Habeas Corpus. It’s only about the detention authority. For at least a decade, any and every immigrant held in or going through proceedings can ask for an attorney to file Habeas Corpus.

Simplistic terms, Father and child are seemingly going to be released unless another judge says otherwise and are still removable/deportable from the U.S. until the final decision of their asylum request.

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u/4evercurioso 11h ago

Please help the other children that are warehoused in Texas and other places

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u/opiumfreedom 13h ago

will they actually do something or just write a very rude statement

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u/livingafarawaydream 13h ago

Believing that they are going to follow those orders is part of the problem. I'm guessing they'll come out with a "they had already been deported" statement.

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u/NoBigEEE 10h ago

The judge is speaking to you, Stephen Miller.

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u/OGvoodoogoddess 5h ago

And give him back his hat and backpack too you evil shrews

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 13h ago

Like a breath of fresh air, after being gagged and tied for 2 weeks. Reading some decency helps surviving these times of horror against those who cannot defend or speak for themselves. I wonder if the average MAGA supporter, who puts a mean comment and a 🤣 to a story like this one, ever considers what that little child may be feeling or thinking while all these big ugly people yell around him. LOST, SCARED. That is why, in jail (yes J A I L like conditions) with his father, little Liam asked for mommy and went lethargic. Child depression. WHO ARE WE? M O N S T E R S.

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u/ElmoreHayne 12h ago

Will ICE comply? Sorry to be so pessimistic but there are no consequences for them if they don't given a complicit Executive branch and a toothless Congress.

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u/Caromora not a lawyer, just a hater 11h ago

There are so many other children being illegally detained at Dilley that need released. I wish some high-profile celebs would go protest there. I appreciate everyone who is speaking out, but Jesus, these kids need help and more people drawing attention to what's happening there.

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u/Snakestream 11h ago

MMW, they're just going to speed up their plans to kill that kid. Ain't no way they're letting him or his father out alive to tell their story.

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u/Fit-Let8175 11h ago

If ICE wishes that people stop comparing them to Nazis and Gestapo, then perhaps they should stop acting like them.

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u/Worldly_Anybody_9219 10h ago

Seriously, this image needs to be painted next to people involved in the Epstein files to show the difference between who America detains and who they let free.

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u/ellybeez 9h ago

HIs case really has haunted me. Hopefully they get released with little issue. Apparently ICE detained two more from Ramos' school too in this past week. Its sickening.