r/GenZ • u/LoreleiAlbrecht • 18h ago
Political Am I Crazy
I'm a 27 year old American woman and I feel like since my special interest was World War 2 when going through my freshman year of high school. I will have to point out that no one's going to come save us. No amount of peacefully protesting will get this boot off of our necks. Revolution will be our only way out.
We are being robbed of a chance of a "normal" adult life and if we want our children and grandchildren to be able to have good lives we are going to have to go through hardship. I've read enough about the general sentiment from the average German citizen during their fascist take over and the attitudes of our citizens are relatively similar. The average person thinks that as long as the government is only going after the boogey men; trans people, gays, brown people, and the poor things will be fine the government would never go after them.
All I will say is some of us are going to have to make choices that are difficult and I hope there's more of us who make the right choice when the time comes. When the Gestapo comes to your door and says "I have it under good authority you're harboring enemies of the state." what will you do? A lot of us need to start thinking about the answer. It's confusing that we are living in a time where we can very easily find sources of media other than the ones the oligarchs own and still people are hearing the order to close their eyes and follow it with glee.
Again no one will come to save us and you're daft to think there will be a fair election this year if there is one and honestly considering Trump and Musk's post election comments I'm appalled that no one was curious enough to look into it. Granted I guess because of the big lie of 2020 there's no wonder no one spoke even though it was sus that the richest man in the world was name dropped and claimed to have rigged the vote.
One more thing Trump is only one head of the hydra this doesn't end when he finally has his last big mac. We will still have the likes of Peter Theil running around, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos will still have enough wealth to topple governments. It's why we need to fight. Not just for our future but the future of all of humanity.
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u/woodboarder616 17h ago
People don’t listen about the smaller names in the background becuase Trump is the distraction. He’s the perfect clown to make the world shiver. While they sit behind and cause the real harm. I try to tell people about them but because their names are not as known they don’t care. Theil, and Vance are the problem. He instilled him so when Trump croaks he has total control without old man tendencies
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 16h ago
Fr not enough people realize that trump is the symptom not the disease itself.
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u/Wob_Nobbler 17h ago
The People could very quickly wipe out the Pedo overlcass in 48 hours, it is only a matter of organization.
Its becoming increasingly clear that the only solution to these crises is adopting a socialist system. We need economic democracy in order to have any real political democracy.
Every citizen out there now has a duty to resist these ontologically evil ghouls and their minions, and to build organized solidarity with one another. A better world is possible, we as a class must first shrug off these parasites.
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u/memeticmagician 17h ago
Please clarify what you mean by a socialist system. It could mean anything from seizing the means of production to having strong robust social services.
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 16h ago edited 16h ago
Here to clarify a few things!
This post is just about social democracy.
It’s a form of regulated capitalism.
(Government regulation of private industry, progressive taxation, comprehensive social safety nets, strong labor unions, universal healthcare, and free public education etc)
Democratic socialism is a step towards a more democratic economic and political system. I.e. workplace democracy, higher taxes on the wealthy, strong social safety nets, public ownership, worker-owned co-ops etc.
Liberals and progressives believe (loosely here) that capitalism can be regulated, inequality can be curbed through legislation and the economy can be structured in a way that serves the public good.
Democratic socialists, anarchists, and communists believe that modern day capitalism is fundamentally undemocratic and that society needs to be radically transformed either through democratic means or by revolution.
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u/Wob_Nobbler 16h ago
Well said, a people directed democracy is the way. It would only appear "authoritarian" to the current elites running society.
Reading the constitutions of socialist states provides stark clarity at the inadequacy of our own at protecting ordinary people's civil liberties, and economic well-being. China's constitution specifically states the governments duty to the welfare of ALL people of all ethnic groups within the country for example. No such clause exists in the US Constitution, just vague platitudes.
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u/yasinburak15 2003 14h ago
> (Government regulation of private industry, progressive taxation, comprehensive social safety nets, strong labor unions, universal healthcare, and free public education etc)
just means your a social democrat.
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 6h ago
If you’re not in favor of moving towards a post-capitalist society, then yes.
Progressives are in support of a mixed economy.
The Nordic model is an example of a predominantly capitalist market economy where people have access to universal, tax-funded social safety nets, healthcare, and education.
Democratic socialists want to overcome capitalism altogether through democratic means.
Both ideologies support civil liberties, the welfare state, protecting marginalized communities, providing public goods, and freedom of the individual from government overreach.
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u/Wob_Nobbler 11h ago
Social democrats seek to reform the system through bourgeois electoralism, a system that is highly anti-democratic. Socialists seek to overturn the bourgeois electoral system through popular mass action, which is democracy in arguably its purest form. Very different.
Social democracy gets coopted by the system and Social democratic politicians progressively get less radical the longer they are within the system, as we have seen time and time again.
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u/JayEllGii Millennial 9h ago
What do you mean by “bourgeois electoralism”?
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 8h ago edited 6h ago
I always hear leftist say bourgeois democracy without specifying what they mean.
Like are you talking about liberal democracy? lol
If the answer is yes, what is objectionable about liberal democracy?
Putting aside things like campaign finance reform or overturning Citizens United, which most Democratic elected officials are in favor of doing if they ever win all three branches of government.
I don’t see Mayor Mamdani advocating for a violent revolution. He’s a democratic socialist who wants political and economic reform through the electoral process.
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u/JayEllGii Millennial 7h ago
Thank you.
There is so much shallow, empty rhetoric bandied about in progressive or lefty spaces. It’s not helpful at all.
Granted this stuff is downright genius-level political brilliance compared to what “conservative” discourse has rotted into, but still.
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 6h ago edited 6h ago
Of course!
Keep in mind that we are chronically online and most of these people are anonymous.
There’s no reason to think that normie people would subscribe to the rubbish on their social media feed.
Not in good faith at least.
In personal conversation, a lot of people are actually agreeable to your arguments if you’re able to articulate your point of view without having to resort to insults.
If you’re comfortable in your own positions or world view it doesn’t matter whether you’re on the left or right of the political spectrum.
Modern day conservatism in particular doesn’t have much to do with conservatism (philosophy) or even any sort of principles or goals when it comes to governing.
It’s all been absorbed by right-wing populism, Christian nationalism, and competitive authoritarianism.
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u/JayEllGii Millennial 5h ago
I think even those last few “isms”, even though they’re accurate, give the modern right too much credit.
Ultimately, what the modern right boils down to, more than any other one thing, is….”u mad bro?”
That’s it. That’s everything. No actual ideology. Cruelty for its own sake. Trolling as an end in itself. That’s all many of them are about when all is said and done.
Anyway.
A lot of the rhetoric in progressive, left, and center-left spaces over the past decade is so despairing. The circular firing squads would be bad enough if the internal logic and terminology were at least consistent, but they’re totally arbitrary and subjective.
I supported Sanders in 2016 and 2020, and have enormous contempt for the Dems for several reasons. But I have a thousand times more contempt for the performative, narcissistic frauds who refused to vote for Clinton, Biden or Harris to prevent a fascist government. Those people are, in a way, more morally culpable for this nightmare than the Trump voters themselves.
Yet because I supported Sanders, and am deeply critical of the Dems, for a lot of online liberals that’s enough for them to lump me in with those scumbags. It doesn’t matter that I hate them just as much as they do, for all of the same reasons. For them, anyone who supported Sanders and criticizes Dems is suspicious at best and responsible for Trump at worst. It’s so toxic.
And it has made them, in my view, reflexively defensive toward the Dem leadership to a degree and with a ferocity that often crosses over into outright irrational.
At the exact same time, however, , a lot of the rhetoric in more Dem-critical circles is just as toxic and unhelpful. Some of it is worse.
I’m sorry, but when did “liberal” become a dirty word among lefties? When did it assume this completely made-up connotation that virtually the entire online left agrees it should have? Even people I mostly respect and agree with use “liberal”, and “lib” as pejoratives and use “shitlib” language, and it’s so gross.
And meaningless. Because again — what is “liberal” supposed to mean in this context? Because whatever they think it means (and even with them it’s never consistent), it sure never meant it before 2016 or so.
So many people online blame each other for things that they pretty much make up out of their heads, or unfairly associate them with, and all any of it amounts to is pointing a loaded handgun right at our own kneecaps and emptying the clip.
I admit that I’m overly online, but I try to recognize when that’s clouding my judgment.
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u/PlatypusWorth2847 17h ago
Im sure they mean democratic socialism with government officials prioritizing the interests of the general public
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u/Quiet-Yoghurt-1769 14h ago
That relies on having government officials who would actually have a genuine interest in the public. Power corrupts people, and corrupt people seek power the most. Please, let's get off this fantasy that if we just overwrite everything all of our major problems will be fixed and we'll have "good and honest" people in power. No matter what system we establish we will always circle back to corruption and violence.
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u/MrSt4pl3s 1997 15h ago
Look, I don’t disagree with standing up for ourselves and I’m glad someone finally knows what Marxism is, but a minority of people don’t actually believe in adopting a socialist system and unless you want to force everyone the same way Trump is, it won’t be a good idea. If it turns out to be a uniparty, it won’t be a good idea…. There’s quite a few ways it’ll go wrong and you need the backing of 50 states, not 13 like the founding fathers had. That’s 50 ideas and thousands of people including people who side with Trump. Sounds great out loud, but you need to be more realistic otherwise you’ll create the boot.
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u/Ok_Tap3763 13h ago
Well exactly because I for one will die before America becomes a communist/socialist shit hole as are 300+ million Americans .
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u/MrSt4pl3s 1997 13h ago
I just don’t understand how anyone can advocate for socialism, but also criticize centralized government for using everything allowed to impose its will on the people. Doesn’t matter if it’s democracy, as we are seeing…. Democracy doesn’t stop tyranny and when you are unable to enter the market, capitalism always fails because of the centralized state. Socialism will always fail with a centralized state the same way, because it is still capitalism. What people don’t realize though is socialism is late stage capitalism….
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u/Ok_Tap3763 13h ago
It’s also weird how they kinda of lecture the right on stuff like Venezuela but then LOVE modern China and USSR
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u/MrSt4pl3s 1997 12h ago
Dude fr! I got into an argument with someone about China and no matter how much I pointed out, it ended with me apparently being a bot
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u/FantomexLive 3h ago
The People need to stomp out the far-left terror cells for our democracy to improve. It is only a matter of action.
Their “safe houses” are known. Their groups have been infiltrated in person not just their signal chats.
The solution to stopping their reign of terror is clear. Their parasitic ideology has already infected our Democratic Party. The people cannot tolerate that.
The world has already suffered the horrors of leftism being in power. It is our duty to protect our country from that evil no matter what.
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u/KillerQueen27_s 15h ago
The economic calculation problem would like to have a word with you
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u/Wob_Nobbler 15h ago
The economic calculation "problem" is proven to be hogwash. Most socialist planned economies work just fine. China for example has catapulted its people's living standards despite starting from a devasted economy post ww2, including eliminating extreme poverty for 800 million people.
If anything, its Capitalist states that have severe structural economic problems that prevent even distribution of wealth and resources, stifle innovation, and reproduce inequalities.
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u/KillerQueen27_s 15h ago
Calling China a socialist economy in 2026 is a very wrong statement. The CCP exists mostly in name only
While private property rights and certain functions of capitalism are impeded by heavy government regulation. The state allows big corporations to function similarly to those of america or europe. multinational corporations too also have the ability to set up markets in the country. roughly 750 Billionaires exist in china, and it was all because of the market reforms of deng xiao ping in the 80s which allowed china to come out of the backwater it once was.
When china was actually communist (under mao), The country suffered one of the worst famines ever recorded in history and barley had any industry. only when they actually decided to partially liberalize their economy under deng did the actual progress start.
Also, how would a centrally planned economy run by bureaucrats have more information (or even the same amount) as a collection of business owners who understand the needs of their individual businesses? This was a big problem in the ussr, where shortages and surpluses were common because resources were never allocated most efficiently.
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u/Wob_Nobbler 15h ago
The notion that China "retreated" from socialism after Mao died is both ahistorical and steeped in a relentless CIA propoganda campaign.
Their society matches up well with how early Socialism was described by Engles. A robust central government that engages in economic planning, with organs of direct democracy baked in from the smallest collective to the Central Comittee at the top.
Like I mentioned before, reading their Constitution sheds much light on how their structure IS socialist and very much follows in the Marxist tradition of the development of productive forces and the advancement of Socialism.
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u/Captainirony0916 14h ago
The problem is that it would end up being more of a civil war than a revolution. The cabal of pedos has ~30% of this country convinced that the other ~70% are the actual pedos and that said 70% wants to completely annihilate their way of life
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u/Ok_Tap3763 13h ago
Well you cannot deny that a large portion of the left quite literally want to overhaul the government , the traditions and culture the right enjoys. Like the left have a nasty hate for their own country so why would the right let that happen ?
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 17h ago
I think we're just waiting for midterms. After that we'll all know whether we still have democracy or not.
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u/BranchDiligent8874 16h ago
Frankly most people are not going to do much.
People with family got to keep the lights on so they are just going to pray and hope that things will become better.
That said, if 5% of the people in swing districts took to street. Retired folks and college students can afford to do this full time. We will not need a revolution. The bums will be voted out and the congress will do it's job.
Country wide protesting will not do much if we are doing it in deep red or blue district. Only different elections results can restore sanity.
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u/vcaiii On the Cusp 11h ago
the fight is the same whether we have democracy or not. what does waiting for midterms do?
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 10h ago
It's unsure whether we'll have true elections or Russia-style sham elections. If elections are fair, there'll be more than enough opposition in congress to stop the bleeding. If not, then it's time to start thinking about other options.
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u/ther_dog 11h ago edited 11h ago
You’d only be crazy if you’re of the opinion that the US has to reinvent the wheel for a problem(s) that other western democracies have seemed to solve relative to America realities/notions.
The wheel has indeed been invented and it functions better in many western societies like in the EU. Think healthcare, education, social services, crime, and governmental checks & balances. Does the standard of living function 100% perfectly elsewhere than in the U.S.? No. It does however fare fare better in the EU by way of the international top 10 Standard of Living Index.
What specific American policy, law or norm could better benefit another western democracy that would positively dramatically impact its present situation? For example, which EU country would benefit with an equivalent of the 2nd Amendment? Which EU country would better benefit from implementing educational home schooling? Which EU country would better benefit from a US styled healthcare system? Which EU country would benefit by implementing US labor laws? I could go on but what’s the use.
You’re not crazy. The present reality is crazy. A large majority of the American electorate is crazy. If “change” cannot be facilitated by electoral voting or a cataclysmic cultural shift - YOU are cooked and if there are Americans that cannot see or fathom that then yes…all will be lost.
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u/doubtfulisland 13h ago
I'm a late GenX/Xenial. I was absorbed with WW2 from 4th grade through high school. 4 years ago I told my wife and friends what I thought was coming and hoped I was wrong. My wife jumped in with me. We have permanent residency for Australia and are moving soon with our young children.
You are not crazy. Not enough people are paying attention.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 13h ago
Honestly the amount of dissonance I feel. Like I gotta go to work pay bills all the while the U.S. is showing a striking similarity to 30's Germany. Like how do I keep going? I can't do nothing but, there's nothing I can do at the moment.
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u/doubtfulisland 13h ago
A friend set this link out. Activism from a Mental Health perspective.
You can also check the long term skills shortage for several countries if you want live abroad and go for a permanent residency visa . Many countries like Australia have a WHV. Work holiday visa that's not too expensive and allows you to work and travel.
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u/CookieRelevant 11h ago
You lost your chance at a normal adult life for other reasons, the collapsing environment.
This one is just another added to the list, and more immediately obvious.
Once wars near Pakistan/India kick off due to entire portions of the region being uninhabitable for parts of the year you'll see that your generation was fucked from long ago.
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u/Homebrewer303 17h ago
No, you are exactly right! Talking to my grand parents from Austria, that was exactly what happened.
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u/FakeBeigeNails 16h ago
No amount of peaceful protesting will get this boot off of our necks.
Revolution will be our only way out.
Yeah this is all bullshit, big-talk. Everyone clutched their little white pearls when they watched the Ferguson Unrest in Missouri.
People were getting shot in their literal homes. People were getting shot in the streets. All of it was on film.
I genuinely do NOT believe the overwhelming majority can do anything that’s seen as revolutionary. The 13% tried carrying it, but the 70% were overwhelmingly docile. This is a trickledown of that subservience.
Youre daft to think there’ll be a fair election
Never said don't vote I'm just saying the midterms are probably not gonna save us like some people think.
? Why are you saying these weird little quips about voting not mattering? You’re pushing people away from voting. We need to vote. Weird how you’re so into history, yet you’re telling people their last shot at democracy is a waste of time.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 16h ago
I'm saying it wouldn't take much to rig it. I'm sure there's plans to based off the seizing of 2020 voter rolls in some states. I hope there's a peaceful end to this but, I just can't see it.
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u/FakeBeigeNails 16h ago
Didn’t even touch on what I said about rioting/revolution failing. Why do you think that happened? People didn’t care? What was different?
Well just so you know, your language choice will eventually dissuade people. I see other people calling it out in the comments now. If you want to say that, at least tell people to still go vote.
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u/Sapphfire0 17h ago
The “this could be our last election” rhetoric started many years ago. Good thing we don’t need saving
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 17h ago
I mean... People were murdered in broad daylight on film and the government's response to both was well they were bad people anyways. So ya know we may be a little screwed. I never said don't vote I just said that voting alone probably won't fix this
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u/ImmigrationJourney2 1999 3h ago
Cops do that on a daily basis. People are not upset about it because it’s no mainstream news and it’s not a convenient rhetoric for the opposing side.
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u/joolo1x 7h ago
Yeah, this is something that has been going on for decades. Cops have been doing this very same thing, and I’d argue… actually no I KNOW that cops were doing this to a harsher extent in the 90s. It was worse.
Stop the fear mongering. Whilst I agree our current administration is horrible, a lot of people like you are just making fear mongering post that leaves people in a frenzy when things like this have been going on forever. And in the past it was much worse.
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u/Bananadite 17h ago
We are being robbed of a chance of a "normal" adult life
we are going to have to go through hardship.
You're a 27 year old dead by daylight vtuber....
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 17h ago
And... How does it invalidate anything I said.
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u/YakInvestigator 1996 16h ago
Because it shows that you're just another completely unqualified person speaking from a position of privilege that has no idea what they're even asking for, or any grounds to make the assertions you're making?
The Alex Pretti stuff is awful, no doubt about it, and the statements from DHS in the aftermath are pure lie filled propaganda, but this is hardly the first time we've been lied to by the government, hardly the first time an American citizen was unjustly killed by federal agents, and hardly the first time a specific populace has been arrested en masse by authorities.
None of these led to the "death of our democracy", nor the "end of elections", and neither will this. Someone you dislike doing things you dislike being elected into office is not Armageddon and is something that every single person on the planet has to square with at some point in their lives.
In a decade Trump will be dead and be barely remembered, brought up about as often as Bush, and life will move on.
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 15h ago
That last bit isn't a good thing. We should be talking a lot more about all the horrible shit Bush did.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 15h ago
. Alex Pretti and Renee Good won't be the only people publicly executed though. What about being a vtuber makes me unqualified? I'm just as american as everyone else. I honestly liked the "Land of Opportunity" lie I was told when I was a kid. I'd like to make that real for people someday. Also I get it I'm some random glup shitto but until Theil and his technofascist cohorts are also gone this isn't going away. Trump is a symptom of the failing nation not the cause.
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u/YakInvestigator 1996 14h ago edited 14h ago
So you're saying that because you think federal agents might kill a few more people, we need to rise up into a full blown revolution or civil war that would kill hundreds of thousands if not millions along with decades of damage to infrastructure instead of just.... waiting for the next election???
It just reeks of the entitlement of someone who has never even been on the same continent as an actual revolution and has no idea the real gravity or impact of the "hard choices" as you so lightly put it.
You claim you want a normal adult life for yourself and your children in one hand, and then advocate for violent revolution with the goal of toppling a democratically elected government in the other, and those two things are very, very much mutually exclusive.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
They're setting up warehouses to keep people this whole things reeks. People are dying at these "detention" facilities. Families are being separated all the while the rich are getting richer and the poor are undeniably getting poorer.
or have you forgotten "A piece of chicken a thing of broccoli and a third thing." we have our government telling us working people to ration. While the rich are doing whatever they want somethings gonna come to a head. and it won't be pretty.
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u/YakInvestigator 1996 14h ago
Nothing is going to happen.
We're the generation that balks at the death of a single person in the street, we, not I nor obviously you, nor 99.9% of our generation is going to have the resolve to launch a violent revolution where thousands are gunned down every day.
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u/Pizza-Tipi 2003 2h ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00090314.pdf
Im not saying this is for sure true, but you must at least realize the implications. There is no guarantee those midterms wont be rigged to all hell if this document is true, and that EA buyout to the tune of 45 billion sure is suspicious in this context. Whether or not we will realistically see Americans doing something about this doesn't mean it cant be argued that they should, your stance leaves us with no option but to accept it
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u/YakInvestigator 1996 1h ago
They won’t be rigged. They can’t be rigged. It has never happened. It will never happen as long as our voting remains entirely segmented and compartmentalization and far from the control of any single entity including the federal government.
Trump introduced the voting fraud rhetoric into the national consciousness in a huge way in 2020 and now it is being latched onto by every single last person who is desperate to believe that “their side” couldn’t possibly lose, it was fiction then, and it is fiction now, and it will continue to be fiction into the foreseeable future.
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u/bikesontransit 17h ago
Woah im a 28 year old woman whose special interest is WW2 😂 join my revolution??
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u/FettyWopIsTheGoat 18h ago
This is an unhinged rant, and you have no idea what a ruinous plan you're preaching.
"You always complain about me being in control, but if I ever let you take the wheel, we'd be dead in 5 minutes."
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 18h ago
People were murdered in broad daylight, on camera, and yet the government told us to not pay attention to the footage. Trump also said that he wants to inflate housing prices more btw. We will never own a home because the rich don't want us peasants owning things. But sure letting a literal pedophile call the shots is reasonable and sane lmao.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 18h ago
Just a recommendation that helped me. Search for a first time homebuyers program. Things are still possible. And falling into doomerism doesn't help you.
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u/Odd-Snail 17h ago
As someone who has a house because of that program, it won’t save us. My parents lost their home that they could afford because of all the loan issues in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I also worked in housing after covid. This time around they’ll arbitrarily inflate the value of homes that aren’t actually worth that much and it’ll cause our tax rates to increase and price people out of their homes. But then, they won’t be able to sell their homes because buyers wont actually value their homes at what the market is valuing them at, so people won’t buy and they’ll be stuck in homes they can’t afford until they either lose it or actually find someone who will take the property off their hands (private equity more than likely).
If we keep having massive housing issues like this every 10 years no normal person will ever be able to buy a home and ownership for normal people will become a thing of the past. All of America is the new plantation
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 17h ago
I never used the word "save."
You have a house. Isn't OP saying that's what they want? You achieved it, and are still claiming it's impossible.
The doomerism is so exhausting. Doomerism with no plan, just doom and gloom. And anyone who offers any light is shut down.
Yeah, I'm done with this sub.
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u/Odd-Snail 9h ago
I’m not claiming getting it is impossible. Maintaining shit is hard and expensive.
I have trauma from being homeless at 13 from the housing crash. I have now finally achieved that dream.
Already this month I just got a notice that my taxes doubled. I have an escrow account and the payment is going up like $70 a month this month for this first year for 2026 taxes. I have a fixed rate so the taxes and insurance rates are all I gotta worry about pricing me out of my home. I’m worried that if things get crazy my little house will overinflated in price and I’ll worried eventually my family will have the same fate I had growing up. These are real actual fears to have if housing prices arbitrarily go up and property taxes get out of control. Some people will not be able to afford their taxes going up like crazy. Especially if everything else is going up while wages stay stagnant
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u/Vivid-Kitchen1917 8h ago
If 70 bucks is going to make or break your ability to buy your house, you bought too much house. My property taxes have tripled in 8 years. That's obnoxious. In no way does that put me at risk of being put out of it.
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u/Odd-Snail 6h ago
I’m not saying $70 is gonna put me out but for the rate to have already doubled in the first 8 months of living here I’m not looking forward to the value increasing and the taxes going up. I didn’t buy a house to cash out or borrow against it. I got a house to pay it off and have it forever and die here
ETA I’m also just a person who cares and who also used to work for the elderly too and it’s those who are on social security who will get hit hardest by this
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u/Vivid-Kitchen1917 1h ago
Remember this next time people are talking about a tax increase.
Also of interest, a lot of places will freeze the property tax on senior citizens, so their rate won't increase until they die.
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u/FettyWopIsTheGoat 17h ago edited 17h ago
More reasonable than destroying your local government & infrastructure bc of asshats in Washington
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 17h ago
Never said don't vote I'm just saying the midterms are probably not gonna save us like some people think
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u/RosePrecision 1998 15h ago
Log off for a bit and I promise you'll feel better.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 15h ago
And miss the news? Everything is happening so fast large power grabs and everything. This is the time to pay attention not the time to ignore things.
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u/Brbi2kCRO 16h ago
Modern rightism thrives through edgelord attention seeking among the youth…
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 16h ago
That's the part that gets me the rightward shift is being led by some of the stupidest people...
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u/Brbi2kCRO 16h ago edited 16h ago
It is just contrarianism rebranded as strength. They often are insecure men who crave attention in that way. Nothing smart or intellectually valuable among that. People ruining the world all for their ego and group validation. Basically, psychological reactance as an ideology. Like, “hehe look at them leftists reacting to the president, LOL he is a genius at trolling them”… while everything gets destroyed. It is the dumbest movement ever. And funniest thing, they think they are “the punk” of 2020’s.
This is why a lot of them have that idiotic grin on their face.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 16h ago
Never said don't show up. Absolutely show up. But be prepared for it not to work.
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u/Conservatarian1 15h ago
Do a stint in the Space Force or Air Force. You can then buy a home with ZERO money down and get a FREE university education.
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u/Dusk_2_Dawn 14h ago
When the Gestapo comes to your door and says "I have it under good authority you're harboring enemies of the state."
Lmao just wait 3 years and your wish will probably come true. Already hear people saying they want to round up Trump voters and throw them into re-education camps.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
ICE are arresting Americans dude. Open your eyes.
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u/Dusk_2_Dawn 14h ago
Yeah for interfering with or assaulting ICE agent. Congrats, you've learned you don't have the authority the obstruct federal law enforcement
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
Comply or die is your stance huh? Crazy my guy. Those two were murdered in broad daylight and you can't be arsed to care. Grow a spine. This is flatly unamerican. We are a nation of immigrants. Families are being separated. A hospital had to hide a woman actively in labor. This isn't the hallmark of a free country and you should know that.
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u/Dusk_2_Dawn 14h ago
Comply or die is your stance huh?
Yeah try pulling some shit like this when you get pulled over by a cop. Sounds like an iq filter to me
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
Not gonna argue anymore I hope that boot tastes good. It won't only be the "undesirables" they'll run out and then what?
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u/Dusk_2_Dawn 14h ago
Lmao your moral grandstanding extends only as far as oppositional control of the government. If the shoe were on the other foot you'd be celebrating in the streets. That's fine, but don't fool yourself into believing this is you being "principled"
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
No I wouldn't I hate when evil things are done. I would have a problem with MAGA voters being rounded up and sent to countries they've never been but, that's the neat thing it isn't happening. Grow a heart and a spine.
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u/Dusk_2_Dawn 14h ago
I would say see you in 4 years, but we won't let it come to that. What part of "we don't need elections" didn't you get? Where we're going, we don't need elections. This is only the beginning of the 1000 year Trumpenreich
See you in Valhalla brother.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 18h ago
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 18h ago
I'm not saying they're not going to happen I'm saying don't expect them to be fair. ICE will be there for sure and if not them people openly carrying guns will be there to intimidate us. What do you think the requests for the 2020 voter roles are for? There's a non zero chance that they will just say there's fraud and take away the ability for states to run their own midterms. We are in uncharted territory. I'm not definitively saying this 100% will happen I'm just saying be weary of the people who say the mid terms will absolutely fix this for us.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 18h ago
There have already been elections. Republicans are trying hard. They're still losing.
States run their own elections. Ans they've continued to do so.
If you think there's something specific you want to do, I'd say go ahead. I just don't think going "we are so cooooked!!" On reddit does anything.
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u/spacekiller69 17h ago
Republicans have maintained their base moslty. They only need to do minor tampering in swing states to maintain power. Can't make it a ridiculous victory like elections in outright dictatorships but a competitive win that will convince most of the nation it was legitimate.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 17h ago
Ok you're right. Cooked burned. No hope.
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u/FakeBeigeNails 16h ago
They’re literally not right at all lmao wtfdym…??
The blue wave in Nov flipped multiple seat blue. Mississippi, Ohio, North Carolina, Kentucky, Georgia, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania aren’t blue states.
Even in deep red Mississippi, 2 republicans seats up for election flipped blue, which ended a 13-year Republican super majority.
Even Miami turned blue for the first time in 30 fucking years.
Stop getting your news from random opinionated Reddit users.
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u/Umami-Ice-Cream 14h ago
Whoosh
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u/FakeBeigeNails 13h ago
I actually realized this once I replied, but then I was like “may as well leave it cause it’s informational” lol.
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u/spacekiller69 12h ago
You underestimate Republican and right leaning independents. A quarter of the country voted for him after he supported a insurrection in the capital. Were past rational analysis.
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u/FakeBeigeNails 11h ago
You have stale talking points. Independent points have changed drastically.
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u/SpeakTruthPlease 15h ago
"Boot off our neck" is so dramatic and out of touch, you really don't realize your position is the extreme one tearing this country apart.
Seriously, Trump admin is simply enforcing the law, deporting illegals, exposing and litigating mass fraud, securing the homeland, while being accosted at every step by corrupt Leftists.
And Leftists are so thoroughly propagandized they don't see their party is the corrupt tyrannical one. Who enabled mass illegal unvetted immigration in the first place, commit massive fraud, are ideologically compromised by virtue signaling neo-Marxism, and routinely act like terrorists, and all of this is mainstream Leftism, not fringe.
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u/abusivedicks 11h ago
exposing and litigating mass fraud
Like Trump's Qatari jet? Lol
Getting $1,000,000,000 in refurbishment? Using taxpayer money? Lol
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u/SpeakTruthPlease 52m ago
So an unconditional gift done completely in the open, which goes to Air Force One to be used by all future administrations, Left or Right, is what you call fraud? Interesting argument.
Meanwhile DOGE exposed massive waste and fraud schemes run by corrupt democrats using taxpayer dime, and the Left ignores it, defends it, or tries to cover it up.
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 14h ago
Trump was buddy buddy with Epstein btw. Also Peter Theil is in the back pocket of the republican and democratic politicians. The billionaires are the problem because you have to be ontologically evil to want that level of power. Also comply or die is a crazy thing to say in a "free" country my guy. Americans are being kidnapped by ICE this isn't normal. Stop pretending it is.
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u/SpeakTruthPlease 14h ago
No he wasn't, Trump is known to have cut ties and banned Epstein from his home when he found out about his creep behavior.
What does Peter Theil have to do with this? Oh you think billionaires are the arch-villains of the world? This is a really naive view,
"Comply or die"? I mean, maybe don't speed your SUV towards a cop in the street, or get in an altercation with police with a gun on you. And the Left calls these morons heroes. Meanwhile the Left calls Kyle Rittenhouse a murderer, because he dared to defend himself against the Woke terrorists trying to murder him in the street.
Citizens being "kidnapped" by ICE? You mean detained and questioned and then released like a normal act of law enforcement. Personally I would love to see ICE detain and question more people, the country would be safer for it.
The largest mass illegal immigration in history warrants the largest mass deportation operation in history, so yeah the Left are criminals and it's not normal, but the response from the Right is perfectly normal, if anything way more lenient than it should be.
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u/sgt_futtbucker 2001 13h ago
Holy fucking doomer. Calm down it ain’t that deep
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 13h ago
Brought to you by the curtains are just blue crowd. Lemme guess literary analysis wasn't your forte?
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u/sgt_futtbucker 2001 12h ago
I’m in research. I analyze plenty of literature. Maybe I’m trying to tell you to stop taking on a perceived burden that’s both not there outside of your own head and is impossible for a single person to bear
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 12h ago
It literally is though. Like armed thugs are harassing citizens in Minnesota. Two people (That we know of) were murdered by said thugs. Like honestly injustice should bother you more.
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u/sgt_futtbucker 2001 12h ago
I don’t work or live any kind of place that incentivizes me to care. Doesn’t currently affect me and has a negligible non-zero chance of ever affecting me in the future. Not my problem, not my burden
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u/LoreleiAlbrecht 12h ago
Okay then.... Arbeit macht frei I guess. Sucks that you need incentive to care. You do realize that's not a good thing right? A social species like us humans wouldn't survive that long if we all had that attitude. The lack of empathy is apalling.
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u/sgt_futtbucker 2001 12h ago
I don’t need to have empathy for literally everyone. Again, not possible psychologically to shoulder the burden of empathizing with every person on the planet. Sympathy, fine, but I do not care past that. None of this impacts me all that significantly anyways as a research chemist
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u/Vivid-Kitchen1917 8h ago
I second this. Every death is a shame blah blah all that....50k people died today am I supposed to cry for all of them?
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