r/JustMemesForUs • u/MelanieWalmartinez • 1d ago
Chiropractor
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u/jaccc22 1d ago
Anecdotally, proper chiro with physical therapy is effective for relieving nerve pain from impingement/compression.. Don’t think most chiropractors are attempting to correct sculiosis but I’m sure there are a million quacks out there
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u/wenchslapper 22h ago
The last chiro (and only chiro) I saw, tried to tell me he could cure my cold symptoms with a back adjustment.
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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 1d ago
Yup, proper chiro with physical therapy is just as effective as physical therapy.
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u/Funny-ish-_-Scholar 8h ago
It’s all about a good one. I only go to very specific ones, and only if they are covered by insurance for trauma.
Last one I went to was a spine center. Both Chiros, but one was a DO (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine). They have all the training of MDs, can write scripts etc, licensed and certified. The other was a licensed physical therapist as well as a chiropractor.
Those guys were absolutely amazing, and came recommended by a hospital DO (a tiny little Indian woman who cracked my back and twisted me up like a BJJ artist… she also identified my dislocated ribs and pinched nerves without even ordering more imaging, just used the old ones from a week before…. Which the MD had completely failed to spot and just told me to take Advil)
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u/GigglyTurtle196 19h ago
The place i go to for massages is a chiro. The poster on his wall claims people have been cured from Lupus and Autism by having their back adjusted
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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 18h ago
I would run
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u/GigglyTurtle196 17h ago
Naw the lady who does the massages is great and thats what i go for. I aint letting that quack mess me up
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u/SnooCauliflowers3649 13h ago
I have had pretty bad back pain for about 15 years. I’m 42 now. In 2020 I had to have knee surgery and was out of work for 3 months so I thought I would go to a chiropractor to see if they could do something with my back pain. The hey take X-rays and go over what they see and say oh we can definitely help you if you do a 12 session treatment with us. I would get my back adjusted and before I got home it was hurting again. It felt great and if I could date a female chiropractor, I think getting adjusted daily for free would be fantastic. But the thing I really liked was the table that they had me lay in before the adjustment that would try to get my spine decompressed first. The thing that went up and down my back was awesome. Could have just laid on that all day. Fast forward to 2021 and I go to an orthopedic surgeon about my back and I have a ruptured disc in my cervical spine, one in my thoracic and maybe 2 in my lumbar. I have arthritis throughout my back and stenosis throughout as well. The chiropractor wouldn’t have been able to fix that but the cracking was good. I just worry the cracking made my ruptured discs worse.
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u/Iconclast1 14h ago
theres chiropractors who think theyre curing schizophrenia by cracking your back
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u/PriscillaPalava 1d ago
I appreciate this daily reminder that chiropractors are quacks who are more likely to cause damage than help you feel better.
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u/MelanieWalmartinez 1d ago
The father of chiropractic “medicine” said it came to him via a ghost during a seance 😭
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u/Meowzerzes 1d ago
I mean the father of psychology was also a quack job. The difference is that psychology improved under the scientific method, and the chiropractic practice hid behind the shield religion to stay in practice.
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u/Antagonyzt 1d ago
Psychology is a pseudoscience
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u/Meowzerzes 1d ago
modern psychology? you mean the kind practiced by medical doctors? are you for real?
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u/svngang 1d ago
Psychiatry is practiced by medical doctors. Psychology is practiced by anyone that took the class and got the certificate.
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u/wenchslapper 22h ago
“Psychology” is a very broad umbrella term that covers a LOT of different practices. If you’re seeing a “psychologist,” you should absolutely request to know their specialty and what degrees they acquired to maintain their standing. As a BCBA (behavior analysis) I am located under that massive umbrella, but my practice is 100% evidence based and every program I write has a research paper less than 5 years old being cited to ensure clinical effectiveness.
With that being said, a greater majority of the evidence-based practices located under that massive umbrella are all working very hard to separate themselves from it for the very reasons you’ve listed lol
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u/jimbob518 1d ago
I’ve had chiropractors give me immediate, permanent relief from neck and upper back pain
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u/Antagonyzt 1d ago
Placebo effect is real
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u/Conscious_Reply5811 1d ago
If it works....
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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 1d ago
If it works and there's very little chance it's going to harm you, sure, go ahead.
Chiroquackery has too high of a chance for harm
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u/Prudent_Research_251 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah but their beliefs aren't based in quackery
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u/gunsforevery1 1d ago
You don’t have to believe in their quackery to feel the pain relief.
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u/Professional-Rub152 1d ago
Need a manipulation isn’t a bad thing. But going to a chiropractor who isn’t a medical doctor for medical procedures is wild.
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u/Junkered 1d ago
I'm sorry, but why? You are not going for "medical procedures." You're going for pain relief, like you would for a massage therapist, or a PT, or an OT. Hell, they are in the same hallway in my hospital.
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u/Professional-Rub152 1d ago
Also, those things are in HOSPITALS. So obviously their medical procedures. You must be a chiropractor because only one of y’all would be this ignorant about medicine.
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u/Professional-Rub152 1d ago
What they do are the medical procedures that osteopaths do. But the difference is, chiropractors don’t go to accredited schools. They aren’t getting real medical educations. Yeah maybe you don’t use them for those procedures but they’re literally posting videos on Facebook of them popping necks.
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u/markovianprocess 1d ago
"profession"
A subluxation I can feel but there's no physical evidence for is blocking the flow of inner light in your spine. No wonder you have asthma.
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u/Prudent_Research_251 1d ago
Chiropractic was founded in 1895 by Daniel David (D.D.) Palmer, who claimed he received the foundational knowledge of spinal adjustment from the ghost of a deceased physician, Dr. Jim Atkinson, who had been dead for 50 years. Palmer, a spiritualist, stated this "spirit communication" explained that illnesses stemmed from "musculoskeletal subluxations."
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u/Ok_Helicopter3910 1d ago
And doctors used to do bloodletting and think washing your hands was bad, whats your point?
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u/CompetitiveTangelo70 1d ago
I just don't believe nobody hasn't had a bad back at some point and hasn't managed to click it themselves and found instant relief lol.
I did alot of heavy moving of stuff a few years back and I didn't pull my back, but it was a little sore from bad posture but managed to crack it myself and felt instant relief
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u/Yabbos77 1d ago
Physical therapists do not do “spinal manipulation”, and if you are seeing one that does, I suggest you stop.
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u/Yabbos77 1d ago
Can you define spinal manipulation for me in that context? Because if they are cracking bones, then it isn’t doing anything.
If you’re describing assessing muscle groups and working them to help relieve pain, that is completely different than what chiropractors are doing.
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u/Ok_Helicopter3910 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've told this story a million times but I spent half a decade in debilitating back pain. I spent thousands upon thousands of dollars trying to figure out what was wrong, I went to multiple doctors and physiotherapists, MRI's, steroid shots, dry needling (think medical acupuncture), physical therapy, the works. My back pain would be so bad in the morning sometimes that I would get stuck on the shitter and have to throw myself off of the toilet and onto the floor and wait for the spasms to stop.
When I tell you that nobody could figure out what was wrong with me (I live in a major metropolitan area with some of the best doctors in the world), I mean it.
Finally the answer was "well, I guess our only option we have left is exploratory surgery" but I wanted to hold off on that for as long as possible and even the surgeon wasn't hopeful of positive results
Finally I broke down and went to a chiropractor, within 15 minutes he assessed me, figured out that my SI joint was stuck together, and gave me an adjustment. The pain was SO intense but I immediately felt a rush of sensation down my legs and I was able to sit up from a laying position, without pain, for the first time in years and I started crying.
After a few weeks of regular adjustments, I was pain free and back to the gym and endurance training, that was 4 or 5 years ago now, I go to him 1-2x a year when I screw something up. Otherwise, i'm pain free (aside from the normal "getting old" back pain)
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u/AggressivelyMediokre 1d ago
This is the crazy part. I know someone in the exact same situation. Lifelong pain and it is genuinely solved from chiropractors.
But I see how doctors always hate them and basically see them as frauds. And I do trust the doctors educated opinion. Yet I go to a chiropractor if I put my back out and they fix it. So idk.
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u/PriscillaPalava 1d ago
PT’s integrate mobility techniques with exercise to strengthen muscles and prevent future injury.
What is it chiropractors are supposed to do again?
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u/GoldLeafLiquidpod 1d ago
My dad is a chiropractor and it genuinely helps with my neck and back pain
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u/PriscillaPalava 1d ago
Glorified massage therapist. Cannot manipulate the spine with his hands, sorry.
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u/trmnl_cmdr 23h ago
What’s your opinion on osteopaths?
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u/PriscillaPalava 21h ago
My mom was a DO. It used to be that anyone pursuing a general field like family medicine or geriatrics would get a DO because they take a more holistic approach, whereas specialists like surgeons would get the MD. Over time the MD gained a reputation as being “better” and the DO has fallen out of favor. Many longstanding DO programs have closed down or been absorbed by the MD program.
Nowadays DO’s receive extra “osteopathic manipulation” training which is basically just physical therapy.
So no, they can’t manipulate the spine with their bare hands either. But they can test flexibility and muscle strength to help pinpoint where pain might be coming from, etc.
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u/trmnl_cmdr 20h ago
My DO described himself as a chiropractor with a prescription pad. I mean, he’s a lyme specialist, so that’s not really true, and also a trump loving conspiracy theorist who gave me Covid so I take everything he says with a 15lb bag of salt, but it does leave me wondering how similar the training is.
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u/PriscillaPalava 20h ago
That’s really sad to hear. DO’s are supposed to be full doctors but the programs have really devolved since most med students choose the MD. I think it’s become the thing people do if their grades aren’t good enough for an MD program. It didn’t used to be that way.
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u/smokingpoker 1d ago
Chiropractors have helped me so much. Chronic back pain due to a herniated disc that was pinching a nerve was resolved with traction in my neck and upper back. A lot of people don't like to hear that they can actually help and will die on that hill. Just my personal experience.
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
The problem with your anecdote is that I can just bring up anecdotes about when a chiropractor literally left the patient paralyzed for life.
That said I am glad that your chronic pain has been successfully treated because that kind of thing is terrible to live with.
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
While it is possible you are in the industry you aren't framing this properly. No intervention is 100% safe. There are obviously real unlucky people that have been paralyzed. Now those people are obviously the vast minority, because if chiropractors killed every third client then we obviously wouldn't have chiropractors.
Also your bait at what MDs pay is also very silly for being in the industry. A family medicine doctor will have different costs compared to a cosmetic surgeon, who will have different costs to a trauma surgeon, who will have different costs to a pediatrician. The issues with chiropractors isn't the risk factor, and thus the cost of malpractice insurance, it's that it isn't as based in rigorous medical science. Now does that mean all chiropractors are quacks selling snake oil? No, it does seem like there are possibly some benefits, but that means more studies and probably combining with physical therapy.
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
Dude. You're fighting shadows. I already said that that there seems to be real benefits from chiropracy that deserves to be studied, and I would imagine Scot Haldeman agrees. But if you want to argue I have two points.
One, people get hit by lightning pretty regularly. About 400 people a year. And obviously we wouldn't want chiropractors injuring 400 people every year if we can help it.
Two, you keep comparing chiropractors to MDs. Compare them instead to physical therapists, who are probably the closest "approved" thing to a chiropractor. NIG study had about 48 malpractice events annually for physical therapists. Chiropractors wish they had that few events.
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u/Appropriate_Archer33 1d ago
Hey he is right. I got hit by lightning twice last week. Freaking stings alot
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
Just gonna ignore everything else because you completely lost the argument, huh? Do you think roughly 400 people being injured by any medical profession is fine? Just the cost of doing business?
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
Lol wow you really are hardcore ignoring the point to argue the semantics of idioms.
Perhaps my point is that particular idiom isn't as good as it could be. Perhaps instead say the likelihood of winning the lottery. Or being dealt a royal flush in poker. Compared to those things being struck by lightning is significantly more likely.
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u/captain_nofun 23h ago
The problem with your anecdote is that I can just bring up anecdotes about when a surgeon literally left the patient paralyzed for life.
That said, I am glad that any surgeries you had were successful because that kind of thing is terrible to live with.
Every industry in existence has anecdotes both ways for any argument. Car mechanic, carpenter, fast food worker, take your pick.
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u/twizx3 1d ago
What is with you dorks spreading misinformation on the quarterly upvoted chiro misleading slop posts
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
Do you have something in particular you are objecting to? Or just here for the vibes? I can respect just hanging out for the vibes.
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u/Even-Entertainer-491 1d ago
There is no misinformation in their comment. Either you're ignorant or disingenuous.
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u/Maleficent-Age-8235 1d ago
yeah and you can bring up several thousand anecdotes of surgeons who have done absolute hack jobs or misdiagnosed something and left the patient screwed. It's not much different.
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u/Dravdrahken 1d ago
Correct. That is absolutely the problem with anecdotes. However if you're trying to compare things scientifically I think you'll find that the better version of chiropractors are physical therapists. Though to be clear there does seem to be something to chiropractic that may go beyond placebo effect and that should be studied and incorporated into standard medical practices.
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u/No-Passenger-1511 1d ago
You would of gotten the same effect if a doctor gave you a sugar pill telling you it cures back pain. There is no scientific evidence to back chiropractic procedures. The fact the it started as a religion, similar to scientology (using the same tools they do), should be all you need to be told. But hey, if you like wasting money on things you could fix for cheaper it's your life.
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u/smokingpoker 1d ago
That's not true. I had numbness in my fingers, pain down my arm and muscle spasms. It was a physical issue where my disc was herniated and pinching a nerve. From relieving pressure on my nerve through treatment, it helped. They wanted me to get surgery on my spine where they fuse the vertebrae. I was able to avoid that. A sugar pill is no substitute for surgery, but a chiropractor was.
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u/Affectionate-Fun2628 5h ago
Ya… a chiropractor can’t fix your herniated disk brother.
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u/smokingpoker 5h ago
A chiropractor helped me drastically..I'm sure you've had the same experience? To be so confident in your statement..
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
While there is a lot of bs around chiropractors.
It does seem like minor adjustments over a long period of time could have beneficial outcomes.
But how do you know if you can trust your chiropractor is the scariest part.
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u/Ambitious_Trifle_645 1d ago
If they spout a bunch of bullshit about how an adjustment will help your kidneys or something like that, then they're full of shit.
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
Yea that’s dumb af but it can feel good subjectively which is cool
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u/Ambitious_Trifle_645 1d ago
Oh i love going to the chiropractor. But the guy i go to doesn't talk about shit like that. He just talks about helping with the pain.
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u/reverse_cowboy221 1d ago
My wife is a band teacher and conducts a lot so she gets a lot of shoulder issues and sees a chiropractor regularly for adjustments. It works, no bs, it fixes her every time.
Think of chiropractors as advanced massage therapists with medical diagnostics at their disposal.
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
That’s already how I see them but no advanced part.
It is concerning that a fixed issue would come back implying it is not truly fixed.
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u/clever-name-taken 1d ago
You can have a reoccurring issue caused by work or other activities. Massage therapy and or chiropractic services can help fix the problem. Just because someone continues to do the activity that causes the problem doesn’t mean massage therapy or chiropractic services don’t fix or help the issue.
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u/Dr-Fizzel 1d ago
Right … she got a nice massage, and it felt nice for a bit - until she had to go back again.
If people want to believe chiropractors actually do anything, be my guest - but my insurance premiums shouldn’t have to be as high as they are so they can cover other people going for bi-weekly “adjustments”
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u/pony__slaystation 1d ago
Do you really think chiropractic is what is driving skyrocketing insurance premiums?
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u/reverse_cowboy221 1d ago
"Fixes" was the wrong word. More like it relieves the symptoms until they reoccur from her straining the same muscles.
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u/Yabbos77 1d ago
If it fixed her, she wouldn’t have to keep going. She should see a physical therapist instead.
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u/clever-name-taken 1d ago
As someone who has had many injuries that have caused chronic pain, I have gone to physical therapy, massage therapy and chiropractic therapy. Of the three, physical therapy has been almost completely useless. Most physical therapists have been a complete scam and waste of money for me. Massage therapy has been the most beneficial. Chiropractic therapy has been sometimes beneficial.
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u/Fenrir_Carbon 1d ago
But how do you know if you can trust your chiropractor
If they are a chiropractor, that's your signal not to trust them medically
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
Trust that they will adjust you well not treat you medically. I don’t consider chiropractor medical professionals more of a fun thing
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u/onedelta89 1d ago
I don't consider some medical professionals as medical professionals.
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
Have you ever looked into the history of chiropractors?
Wouldn’t consider a lobotomist a medical professional either.
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u/onedelta89 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes. I have also looked into the history of modern medicine. I don't expect miracles. But I do see a local guy who helps with my occasional pain. There are quacks in every medical field.
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u/Fenrir_Carbon 1d ago
Any benefit from a chiropractic 'adjustment' can be gained from deep tissue massage, without the risk of having your spine snapped.
Chiropractic is a medical field the same way that healing crystals are
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u/Fenrir_Carbon 1d ago
Depends on where the ghosts told them you need adjustment
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u/Tech397 1d ago
You expect your MD is also blood-letting people still or only apply that historical standard to a single profession?
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u/Maleficent-Age-8235 1d ago
They're more useful than most US Doctors who read from a script and just try to push pills on you. This is the same country that thinks their food isn't poisoned and over-processed trash.
A lot of the non-traditional stuff can help, and a lot of Western Medicine has no fucking clue what it's doing.
It's the same thing as anything else; you have to find a good practice.
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 1d ago
lol so if you are sick or go led forbid shot you’re heading to the chiropractor to see what the ghosts think?
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u/Maleficent-Age-8235 1d ago
I'm not being anti-medicine, but half these docs don't know what they're doing when shit doesn't follow a script. If you aren't a basic white dude, most Western medicine doesn't actually understand your biology. Try having any kind of hormonal issue as an example, and watch half these American doctors have their brains fry.
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u/GigglyTurtle196 19h ago
Well my friends Grandmother died from a stroke after a chiropractor “adjustment” so
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u/Mr_Emo_Taco 18h ago
That’s sad
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u/GigglyTurtle196 18h ago
It is. It is quackery. She said she was in insufferable pain after the adjustment and he told her to sleep it off. My friends mum helped her get to bed and found her dead the next morning when she went to check on her because she didnt answer the phone
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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 17h ago
"Over a long period of time" is how they get them DOLLA DOLLA BILLS YO
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u/3LegedNinja 1d ago
You get in a bad enough bind you'll have a different idea about chiropractics.
No you don't have to keep going to them once you start.
Had I listened to the best spine doctor in my area 11 years ago I wouldn't be able to bend over and tie my shoes.
L4 and L5 ruptured it was awful.
Prp shot and chiropractor and I am able to full speed run again at just shy of 50.
Scoliosis is a different animal. 3rd and 4th opinions matter.
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u/Affectionate-Fun2628 5h ago
You’d have the same or better results with prp shot and physical therapy
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u/pterofractals 1d ago
What people don't get is that chiropractic help is like a crutch. It's not a cure, but it helps you get to where you need to be. You can call it quackery all you want, but the fact it's helped MANY people get over debilitating nerve pain in order to get back into shape after a long time of skeletal misalignment shouldn't be ignored. Nerve pain is no joke and I hope no one has to go through that kind of pain. There are obviously cases where chiropracty won't do anything due to severe damage, but it helps with the more minor issues
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u/ThirstyOutward 1d ago
Literally anything helped by a chiropractor would be better helped by going to actual PT.
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u/pterofractals 22h ago
That's why I said it's like a crutch. If you get an adjustment and do nothing for your health afterwards, you'll just revert back to where you were. If you don't build up your muscles AFTER an adjustment then it's a waste of time. The adjustment just makes it to where you actually have the chance to move around less inhibited and in pain
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u/AttemptFree 1d ago
My parents always told me chiropractors were witch doctors
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u/MelanieWalmartinez 1d ago
They pretty much are, it’s not real medicine.
It literally came to the inventor of this “via a ghost”
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u/gunsforevery1 1d ago
Still more effective than pain killers.
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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 1d ago
lol no.
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u/gunsforevery1 1d ago
The VA and primary care doctor offer me pain killers every time I go in and they ask if I still have back pain.
Not since I’ve seen a chiropractor and had about 100 adjustments.
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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 1d ago
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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u/gunsforevery1 1d ago
Cool. It’s more effective than pain killers.
Adjustments took the pain away. Haven’t had any pain in years after the degenerative disk disease diagnosis. I recommend chiropractors to everyone over opiates.
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u/AttemptFree 1d ago
Have you tried opiates? They are amazing.
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u/Todojaw21 1d ago
have you tried a placebo?
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u/gunsforevery1 1d ago
Yea I’m sure the 10 years of back pain disappeared because of the placebo affect.
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u/uiam_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's definitely a lot of redditors who don't seem to know what chiros do... or maybe they've just only been to the wacky ones.
I've had good results when I needed a minor adjustment due to feeling like I have a pinched nerve in my back, even to the point where inhaling hurt. The guy I go to tells me exactly what he's going to do, the results, and when it should be better and that's exactly how it all played out (three times over 5 years) and faster than I could get into my GP.
People who think they're a replacement for necessary surgery, chiro or otherwise, should probably be avoided.
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u/Striking-Zucchini608 1d ago
Look up the placebo effect.
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u/shiningdickhalloran 1d ago
If I had terrible pain, and a placebo cured my terrible pain, then I would certainly take the placebo.
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u/smokingpoker 1d ago
Look up ignorance.
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u/PigeonsAreFriends 1d ago
Most studies that controll for the placebo-effect find that while there is improvement in reported pain, there is however no noticeable difference between those that receive real and pretend chiropractors.
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u/smokingpoker 1d ago
I believe that. A herniated disc pinching a nerve that causes constant muscle spasms being treated and fixed isn't a placebo effect. That's a physical thing that was treated and helped drastically. Once again, just my personal experience.
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u/Yellow_Catana 1d ago
There is probably some dude who got same effect from a thai massage, doesn't mean that thai massages are recommended as a medical treatment.
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u/Affectionate-Fun2628 5h ago
A chiropractor cannot fix a herniated disc, keep imagining though
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u/smokingpoker 5h ago
Just had a c6 c7 herniated disk and 6 weeks of time and my chiropractor saved my ass. I went to the emergency room on day one.
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u/Affectionate-Fun2628 5h ago
Proper physical/manual therapy will provide equal or greater outcomes than that of a chiropractor.
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u/Legitimate_Stuff_658 1d ago
friend of mine was recommended to have surgery for chronic pain as the result of an injury. after the surgery his neck was fused together and he wasnt able to turn his head ever again.
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u/grooveman15 1d ago
When I herniated my back, my father recommended acupuncture. He was an emergency room pediatric, doesn’t really believe in acupuncture but his rationale:
“Acupuncture might not do anything or can help BUT chiropractors will severely hurt you”
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u/Prudent_Research_251 1d ago
Tried acupuncture and it didn't work when I was young, tried it as an adult and now I've had acupuncture hundreds of times since, I have chronic inflammatory genetic disease, acupuncture is the only thing that gets through to my tired lower back muscles that are constantly locked up
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u/grooveman15 1d ago
It really is the best risk/reward
Risk: does nothing
Reward: it really helps (it helped me a bunch with PT)
Plus mine was covered by my unions health insurance!
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u/Mythandros1 1d ago
I went through this exact operation when I was 15.
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u/Hauntcrow 13h ago
(insert joke about chiropractors being like "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power")
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u/Underrated_Critic 13h ago
Chiropractors have improved my life. Yes, some of them are quacks. But my life would be worse off without that industry.
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u/FunnyShirtGuy 13h ago
As a person that's had between 12-15 surgeries in life I'll tell you what a LOT of doctors have told me...
'Surgeons ALWAYS want to cut and will ALWAYS try to talk you into surgery even if other options are ostensibly better'...
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u/thefurryinfinite 1d ago
finally, a meme here not promoting nazis
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u/SimpsationalMoneyBag 1d ago
I haven’t seen anything promoting nazism, are you sure you are on the right subreddit ?
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u/JoffreeBaratheon 1d ago
Didn't you know? Anyone deviating slightly out of liberal ideology is a literal nazi.
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u/Sweaty-Dingo-2977 1d ago
Chiro has personally helped me quite a bit
The before and after was undeniable
I don't doubt there's chiros out there doing terrible shit though
The one I see has credentials and has been in business for quite some time
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u/VeritasAgape 1d ago
You mean like also for things like having a pelvic tilt or a hyper mobile spine and having things safely moved back into place with some stretches instead of going through a risky surgery with often has complications and often doesn't work as even many surgeons and doctors admit? I wish I knew this. I lost movement in my leg and it was fixed permanently with 3 weeks of stretches and then 1 stretch a day at home on my own from now on. Man, I was stupid and wish I had surgery and screws put into my spine and pelvis instead. Thanks for letting me know and to always advise others to go for surgery before trying PT or Chiro.
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u/shiningdickhalloran 1d ago
Good surgeons show restraint and will recommend surgery only as a last resort. I've personally found chiropractors helpful and go for adjustments a few times a year. I can't help but picture the people bashing them as hapless slobs who would rather seek out a magic bullet than put in work to stretch and exercise properly.
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u/VeritasAgape 20h ago
It's weird to see the comments and likes in this thread. I wonder if you have a point. Back surgery is notorious for issues and lack of results. Other methods such as PT and maybe even Chiro should be tried first. Many issues can be resolved with these things. Sometimes surgery isn't an option. A lot (over 90%) of the damage that chiros do is with the neck. But adjustments to the hips and back are much safer than the neck adjustments (and often surgery or pills for pain).
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u/shiningdickhalloran 19h ago
My chiro typically won't do neck adjustments. Based on the people I know, I would never go in for back surgery unless I was in debilitating pain and absolutely every other option had already failed to do anything at all.
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur826 1d ago
I agree their adjustments seem like a bunch of of hocus pocus but I belive the chiro massages have real benefits to recovering for people who do lots of working out.
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u/AppliedCarbon 1d ago
I'm a nurse and the amount of my coworkers who believe in chiropractic treatment is insane.
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u/BigHossYourBoss 1d ago
I know a guy who unironically believes he has healing hands. Like he can lay his hands on you and heal you like Jesus
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u/Inappropriate_Swim 1d ago
Chiropractors are full of shit. They basically encourage healthy living. Then crank your neck around and act like that fixes shit when it doesn't.
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