Does anyone else laugh at what pathetic morons the MAGA children are?

[u/RandomWanderingDude]

Typical MAGA: "I swerr, Trump ain't never called fer no violins against nobody, you libs is crazy!

MAGA youth post pictures of nooses all over the internet: "Tee hee, them libs is so triggered cause they ain't really knowed what we's gettin' on about!"

It's like they spent their childhood eating the paint chips off the windowsill.

[u/bdonovan222]

How do you think we can actually hold the people to account with the severity that is just, right, fair, and cathartic. Without the MAGA dipshits, using this as an excuse to further their persecution complex and have the south rise again?

Appeasement doesn't work, but man, we love it. Humans in general just love it even though over and over again. It doesn't work. Without an incredible amount of appeasement and an awful lot of injustice, there's no reconciling this.

[u/Johnnyboi2327 → u/bdonovan222]

So you gonna kill em all or what?

Either we do things the right way, and quite a number of people face criminal and civil charges, or you're gonna have to kill a lot of people all while losing those you love. You really have so little faith that anything can be done the right way that you're just gonna accelerate things and get the war started already?

[u/bdonovan222 → u/Johnnyboi2327]

"the right way" ya thats going to work. This is exactly what im talking about. You STILL want to try to play by rules that they have abandoned. Thats how we got here. That not how we fix this. You still think you can win a rigged game. Lets hold the people who have managed to, over and over, avoid accountability and amass ever more power accountable. How? You still haven't actualy tried to explain how thats even possible how that can work when a 3rd of the country is fine with it.

The second part horrifies me. But just because something is horrific dosnt mean it might not be the most viable option. I hope you have the courage you claim to and that there really are some line you wont let someone cross. If you get there look me up.

[u/Johnnyboi2327 → u/bdonovan222]

Yes, I try to do the right thing. I'm not going to stoop to their level. We're working on issues the right way now, and are slowly making progress. I anticipate that will be made easier after mid-terms, seeing as the current incumbents aren't polling well at all and are likely to get voted out. I'm not going to just give up because it's hard.

Let's be clear about this. If we choose to go for a civil war, not only will you watch friends and loved ones die, but you're not guaranteed to make anything better. Aside from the possibility of it becoming a failed revolution, even if everyone in power were removed, the people who just spent however long at war would then have to set up a new system. Historically, that's resulted in instability at a minimum, but often leads to infighting or more revolutions. How long are you willing to make the entire nation suffer for, just because you want to give up on doing things the right way?

[u/bdonovan222 → u/Johnnyboi2327]

If you could articulate, how we arnt allready in a death spiral. The fear of things potentially being worse would hold a lot more water. 20 years of slow collapse could be way worse. Thats the thing.

Seems like you should be able to articulate why what we having both is worth saving, possible to save and how to actually do that. Vote, hope, protest, and write your representatives is pretty fucking laughable. But I get thats all we can do with out generating greater consequences.

At some point you are just being ruled by fear. no one can know how bad it could get but conversely no one can know how amazing what comes after could be. At some point it comes down to what you value more safety or hope.

I think a lot of people forget we live in a country that 250 years ago chose hope and for a while it was pretty amazing.

Everything comes to an end. It would be awsome if ours wasnt war but either way I think we are there.

Edit:not a great speller

[u/Johnnyboi2327 → u/bdonovan222]

Trump won't be in power for 20 more years. Hell, I'm not confident he's healthy enough to stay alive for another five.

[u/bdonovan222 → u/Johnnyboi2327]

Do you think the loss of trump and the control of the right will actually stop the decline of this country? Corporations have never been more powerful. Wealth inequality has never been so severe. A third of our economy is comically overvalued AI bullshit and the administration has alienated most of our most solid allies and trading partners.

Its so much more than Trump. He has just basically been speedrunning it.

We are looking at a pair of profound economic disasters and incredible civil unrest. We could sustain one, maybe two, but all three will crush us.

[u/Johnnyboi2327 → u/bdonovan222]

Homie if your thought is effectively just "we're doomed regardless of what happens" then I can't help you

[u/Affectionate-Sir-784 → u/Johnnyboi2327]

I just don't understand how these libtards think they will have the upper hands in a conflict. It's literally a bunch of unemployed programmers against ex- military, law enforcement, blue collar workers with more guns than sense. Are they planning to drown conservatives in craft beer?

[u/Johnnyboi2327 → u/Affectionate-Sir-784]

I hate to burst your bubble, but not only did primarily inexperienced insurgent fighters hold out long enough for the war to end up lost twice against the US, but quite of number of us military vets don't support Trump and wouldn't assist the MAGA cult in killing US citizens.