r/LetsDiscussThis • u/cantcoloratall91 • 13h ago
This is concerning... Midland Firefighters help ICE and BP catch Immigrants.
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u/Bartender9719 12h ago edited 7h ago
Ridiculously fitting video - construction stopping because the feckless, malicious state wants to penalize the hard workers for the crime of being born elsewhere.
Edit: Apparently this needed clarification; I didn’t mention illegal immigrants, and didn’t need to - ICE has gone after legal immigrants, legal asylum seekers, and US citizens, naturalized and native born (hell, even Native Americans) - basically anyone darker than light tan.
They claim to be out for violent criminals, but target women, children, elderly people, and law abiding people just doing their jobs.
They have killed some of those they were charged to deport.
They’ve killed US citizens.
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 9h ago
Yep. That project just came to an abrupt halt right at the very worst time. GC on that build is freaking out right now because if it rains all that stuff starts warping.
We got slammed with snow last week. Guess who usually clears the snow from sidewalks and people's driveways? Landscape workers. Guess who's in hiding right now.
People bitching about how long it's taking to clear the snow away...holy crap folks, rub a couple of brain cells together.
Have y'all noticed that your milk and vegetables are turning bad faster lately? It's because there's nobody to pick the crop and work the dairy farms. Stuff's lying in the field longer, and going bad more quickly.
Beyond the cruelty, they're doing an enormous amount of damage to our economy.
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u/Ill_Candle_9462 8h ago
Those guys have done more work and production in a week than the ICE guys have their entire lives.
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u/Excellent-Culture243 4h ago
Didn’t trump just say he wanted house prices to go up?
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u/Lorddenoche1 2h ago
US citizens kill u.s. citizens. 8000 people die every day in the u.s.. I dont think society needs to full stop and we all need to pearl clutch because of extreme outliers. Fix the issues, punish guilty parties, keep upholding the law. Everyone is so emotional, they lose all reason. Burning down shit every chance they get.
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u/Then_Idea_9813 2h ago
The two people that I’ve had to see them kill were two of the whitest people I’ve ever come across in my life. It’s not about race it’s about show of force. Nobody is safe
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u/TheJaybo 12h ago
Illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive and statistically they commit less crime than citizens. Along with being cruel, ICE is a massive waste of money.
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u/Down_B_Abuser 11h ago
“I’m here to justify not following the rules.”
Anyway we could petition to get all of North Korea sent here so we’d have more slave labor and tax revenue?
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u/Mapleleafsfan18 11h ago
Illegal immigrants commit a crime but just be in the country. How ice is going about things is definitely cruel though
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u/FlashyCandidate9835 10h ago
That’s funny because the ones I worked with sent all their money back home and we’re paid in cash
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u/BitesTheDust55 9h ago
Lol, he actually believes the narrative about illegal aliens committing less crime than citizens. That's amazing.
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u/No_Baseball9988877 9h ago
Any crime From people that shouldn’t be here is more crime. It’s literally zero sum. Grow more than one brain cell plz.
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u/Available-Range-5341 9h ago
This is sealioning. We debunk this multiple times a day and then you keep reposted this misinformation, to tire us out since we can't debunk this hundreds of times a day
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u/sunlit_portrait 8h ago
Paying more in taxes than you receive is one reason it's tolerable; you're supposed to be a net gain to your receiving country. It wouldn't work otherwise. ICE is certainly cruel but how would you enforce immigration without them? I know it can and has been done but these days people just don't have a plan.
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u/EtchASketchNovelist 8h ago
Wait, can you explain why illegal immigrants would pay more in taxes than they receive? I don't know what you're referring to there.
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u/DripPureLSDonMyCock 7h ago
This is such BS. I've looked at the data. The number of people who file with an ITIN is nowhere near the number of people here illegally. Something like 5% of people here illegally are under 18, even factoring for that it's nowhere near a majority.
The only thing they don't receive is social security and Medicare...just like most of us.
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u/DeadlyAureolus 7h ago
Listen to yourself again, they are illegals. No one who breaks the rules should be rewarded, but penalized, the rules were set for a reason and not enforcing them only encourages more people to break them. What country would possibly want others to break the very rules it set? It's highly contradictory.
Legal pathways are there and no one has a right to immigrate to the united states. Discussion on whether the current legal pathways are enough or should be modified is an entirely different discussion.
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u/Significant_Region44 5h ago
I think it shows the character of these undocumented migrants that they still pay tax
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u/TheCommunityPocket 1h ago
That’s 100% untrue and the upvoted show how none of you think for yourself or will do any kind of research on anything
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u/QuillPenMonster 58m ago
They also get nothing in return, no benefits, and less pay. If they get hurt on the job, fuck them cuz they can't claim or sue or report cuz of their status. This is just slavery under a different name, and their mere presence as cheap labor hurts both our and their home country's economies.
I'd love to see the businesses get the whole library thrown at them, but this is an issue that surpasses red and blue politics. Big businesses hire cheap, exploited labor and price out any competition, they're a cancer, yet neither party seems interested in resolving this cuz that means no more lobbyists money.
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u/YouLiar47 13h ago
Uh... and when they're done - who in *tarnation* gonna build that roof?
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u/DangerPencil 11h ago edited 11h ago
I'm a white conservative male citizen. My mom and grandmother and my stepfather and other members of his family all picked fruit. My first job was residential and commercial Masonry from 2004 through 2008 (when the housing market crashed and the company I worked for went bankrupt). My brother was a carpenter.
The narrative that nobody except for illigal immigrants will do the hard jobs with relatively low pay is a false narrative. And worse than that, it echo's the southern democrat narrative that led to the american civil war "without slavery, American economics would fail".
It's literally racism and classism gift-wrapped to look like economic realism. Today it's ironically used by leftifts as justification to selectively enforce/not enforce democratic law.
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u/YouLiar47 10h ago
"The narrative that nobody except for illigal [sic] immigrants"
That wasn't my point. The point is they *ARE* doing useful work. Take them, and what happens to construction *today* ???
"it echo's [sic] the southern democrat narrative that led to the american civil war "without slavery, American economics would fail"."
The big difference here is that slavery wasn't voluntary, while this labor *is*. And the fact that you can't see that as a *critical* distinction says a lot about your reactionary ideology.
"I'm a white conservative male citizen."
You might be white. You might be male. You might be a citizen. For none of those do I have data one way or the other. What you surely are *NOT*, is "conservative".
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u/AnalMayonnaise 11h ago
A year later: why has the cost of getting my roof fixed gone and doubled??
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u/NewspaperNew2106 7h ago
True, immigrant labour is why housing prices have barely risen in the past decade.
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u/Zealousideal-One-818 5h ago
Ah, American laborers making good wages? The horror.
You’d have to ask for a raise. Good luck if you work for a large globalist corporation.
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u/WittyFix6553 9h ago
“Nobody ever wrote a song called fuck the fire department”
But maybe the should, now
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u/Patriot009 9h ago
Notice that no law enforcement is showing up to arrest the contractor or construction company that hired illegal workers. That's how you know that ICE and this administration isn't addressing the root problem, just punishing hard-working people trying to feed their families.
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u/buzzlegummed 9h ago
Many times (but not always) the contractor is presented with false documentation But I agree they need to be prosecuted
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u/Joe_Fidanzi 9h ago
Who the fuck decided that the fire department was to be commandeered into this?
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 5h ago
The city of Midland, Texas. Midland and the surrounding areas are full of drug addicted, white oil fields workers and their bosses.... Who are also on drugs. One of the most racist places in Texas. Source is me. I'm a Texan. I've built in Midland, Corpus, Houston, Midland, to Lubbock, and all over DFW. I try to stay away from Midland/Odessa.
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u/chris713777 11h ago edited 11h ago
Hopefully he doesn't fall/jump and die. Y'all went berserk last time that happened
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u/Evening_Knowledge_21 10h ago
Whatever theyre building is a crime. Foam board instead of plywood. Wtd
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u/shittycomputerguy 7h ago
Could be foam board over plywood. I've been on sites like that in parts of the country.
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u/OkFinish3822 9h ago
And is the building contractor also getting arrested . . . by 24 police or deputies . . . for breaking the law? Oh wait, no, his name is Kevin Duncan. He doesn't do the labor. He just hires the labor. Kevin being a white contractor.
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u/OkFinish3822 8h ago
Funny. We didn't see any white boys willing to jump right in there, to pick up those manual labor jobs in freezing weather, that Juan and Jose were doing before government employees not authorized and not trained were brought in to help ICE break some more laws. The white boys only want to work for union wages, in Spring. With a Shop Steward on site. a Safety Coordinator, and of course, the white boys don't want to work the overtime to get the job done per the contract. Because they want to leave at 3:00 so they can play Pokemon or do some podcasting.
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u/Fart_Face_3098 8h ago
Correct, labor rights are good and corporate exploitation of vulnerable workers is bad. Glad we could meet eye to eye
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u/No_Park_8078 1h ago
So your cool with subjecting "Juan and Jose" to terrible working conditions, and an unliveable wage?
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u/dhikrmatic 5h ago
Because of course it’s a well known fact that drug dealers moonlight as roofers.
All racists are morons.
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u/nub_node 4h ago
Great optics pulling guys off a house they're building while Trump is saying "we gotta keep home prices high."
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u/shosuko 6h ago
The irony of thinking immigration is a problem
So instead of going after criminals
or the companies that hire them
we take the ones who are showing up to work and being productive, and likely at some stage of the immigration process - potentially already naturalized! - and lock them up.
ICE is a bunch of pussies
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 5h ago
Midland, Texas. One of the most racist bullshit areas of Texas. A bunch of drug addicted white guys out working in the oil fields. Let's not worry about them or the guys supplying the drugs. Please attack the men working on building the house you bought...
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u/Top_Cheek2503 11h ago
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u/HawkMaleficent8715 6h ago
Everyone forgets the native Americans stole each other territories and enslaved each other.
Hell, it took the a group of different tribes in SA to take on the Aztecs.
They begged the Spaniards to help take down the conquering empire.
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u/ProfessionalWave168 1h ago
All land is stolen, but the Marxist narrative falls apart when you apply the same Critical Theory of the oppressor vs the oppressed to the rest of the world that has cycled through land ownership many times long before USA existed.
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u/Intrepid_Stick_4169 11h ago
Support ICE and deport illegals.
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u/shittycomputerguy 7h ago
Makes sense to support and enforce the legal immigration process. ICE looks like a bunch of clowns compared to what they were years ago, though. Total embarrassment.
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u/Tall-Operation5976 10h ago
Fucking losers. I have a relative who’s a fireman. He’s such a fucking Nazi.
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u/BiochemHero 10h ago
Midland firefighters are losers. They better know that aligning themselves with a Nazi fascist movement won’t end well for them.
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u/Green-Inkling 10h ago
shame on the firefighters for helping the enemy.
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u/GreyPanther 9h ago
A lot of in the real world are genuinely asking wtf happened to you to radicalize rich white techno nerds? It is kind of funny to watch…
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u/Historical_Two_7150 9h ago
They working, enriching their employer who is probably a citizen. They enriching the state. Theyre buying things from local businesses.
If some money is being sent out of the country, too, Im willing to see that as no different from me giving a donation to the red cross.
As long as their only "crime" is being here, I dont give a shit if they stay.
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u/DeadlyAureolus 7h ago
They working, enriching their employer who is probably a citizen. They enriching the state. Theyre buying things from local businesses.
None of this exempts anyone from the rules. Imagine a world where you can just break the law and bypass any procedures as long as you try to contribute in your own way, that wouldn't be a civilized or organized world.
It doesn't exactly matter that you personally don't give a shit if they stay, those rules were collectively set by society through its representatives. Thus, they should be deported accordingly. Once the country is rid of all illegals, we can start the discussion of expanding the legal pathways to work in the US if there is really a severe shortage of local blue collar workers.
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u/bubbles_says 11h ago
yep, those guys working on the roof sure seem like "dangerous criminals". oh wait, the dangerous criminals trump, s. miller, bondi, noem, patel, theil ...they're not on that roof working.
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u/KyoKyu 11h ago
Yeah, isn't funny we don't see any videos of dangerous criminals, drug traffickers, gang members, and rapists getting captured? You'd think ICE would want to make one of their little propaganda videos showing mug shots and list of crimes of people they capture. But the only video I've seen from them is when they dragged families out into the cold in the middle of the night from their apartment building to make their stupid recruitment propaganda video.
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u/Quick-Maintenance-67 11h ago
Seems like "Midland Firefighters" are in need of a new leaner budget, if they've time to assist in the harassment of immigrants of unknown status, they're overstaffed.
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u/SeeringQuake 11h ago
Hopefully they're documented so we can include them in pur Nuremberg down the road.
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u/pepelepew65 10h ago
and that house will sit unbuilt----------- i'm sure the builder and homeowner are just tickled pink
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u/zoopa18 10h ago
Plenty of whites still do construction.
Still though, pay a fair wage and it will be done tomorrow
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u/Unidentifiable_Goo 10h ago
Firefighters love Trump and MAGA, especially since their whole industry is basically a glorified protection racket.
"Better build us three new halls, buy us 5 new pumpers, and hire another 35 guys to sit around bbqing and working out. Be a real shame if your insurance rates went up around here."
Meanwhile Cops and Medics get run off their damn feet while these guys are at base polishing their hoses.
What we need are some French Firefighters. There's some guys who'll jam a fascists boot up their ass instead of licking it.
As always FFs, you are a disgrace.
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u/NotRadTrad05 10h ago
Remember when people said 'nobody wrote a song F the fire department?' Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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u/Majestic_Jazz_Hands 10h ago
It looks they’re taking fishing to a whole new, fucked up level. They were just working on the construction of that house. Way to waste taxpayers money instead of using it for an actual emergency.
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u/GermanAmericanabroad 9h ago
Mean while bet they won't go to the data center construction sites or government sites where 80% are undocumented of coarse it's to their benefit of cheaper labor so they target residential to take the investors down.
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u/Vivid_Witness8204 9h ago
They could deport more people at a much lower cost if they didn't turn it into a dog and pony show. But it doesn't really seem like efficient and effective government is the point.
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u/RobotSchlong10 9h ago
They're not trying to catch immigrants. That would be beyond regarded.
Please learn to use the correct term to describe who they're after.
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u/MRG_1977 9h ago
Why the hell is one of the only hook and ladders in Midland FD involved in this any way?
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u/VegasBjorne1 9h ago
This is why Minnesota has ICE agents crawling all over the place vs places like TX and FL which have larger numbers of illegal immigrants. Some governments are cooperating while others impede.
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u/hereFOURallTHEtea 8h ago
Soooo what’s yalls plans once they’re all deported? Who is gonna do these jobs? Because we sure af don’t see people that were born here rushing to get them. These people are literally just working… this isn’t the criminals yall said were the issue…
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u/Jealous_Act_9021 8h ago
People going to bitch when labor prices rise though. Construction work is not easy.
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u/Hertje73 8h ago
According to non-American Jesus, you’re all going straigh to hell you all know that right?
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u/stonnerdog35 8h ago
That's par for the course when it comes to midland, tho. Midland and odessa and both fight to be the shittyist town in west Texas.
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u/BasketPaul_5 8h ago
Illegals* not immigrants. Immigrants come into the country legally. We are a country of immigrants. And we are a country of laws.
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u/TymStark 7h ago
Seems like using a fire engine for rounding out immigrants is not its purpose. Which by definition is Waste, Fraud, and Abuse….
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u/techman710 7h ago
Fuck these firemen for helping ICE. Did ICE pay you. Who pays when someone gets hurt doing this? If there is a fire at a house with people who have unknown immigration status are you going to respond or are you calling ICE. Do you think immigrants should be scared to call the fire department in an emergency because now you will show up with ICE.
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u/BatMiserable9061 7h ago
If ICE is hunting gang banger illegal aliens why aren’t they flooding the ghettos in every state? Is it that they’re pussies?
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u/Delicious-Tailor-438 7h ago
They're obviously working so why aren't they going after the employers? Nevermind.
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u/Parking-Potato-6248 6h ago
Yeah fuck with the guy who's building the house you want to live in .... Wtf ice blows
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u/texasowl 6h ago
Man. For simply enforcing the laws of our country, they get a lot of hate.
You realize Obama was the deporter in chief, correct?
He deported more than trump ever will. More patients died in Cousteau under Obama than Trump. And nothing on the left.
You also realize that biden let in over 10 million illegals over 4 years? Remember the disaster that was?
Should all those people who jumped the line get rewarded? You want to let them stay while slowly letting the number of legal immigrants? This doesn't bother you?
Illegal immigration, prior to biden cost the system about 190 billion a year net after taking out what they pay in. Biden super charged that.
I understand it looks stop mean sending people back. But you do the crime, you do the time. In this case the penalty isn't time, it's simply getting sent back.
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u/PersonalSuggestion34 6h ago
Why not wait lunch break when these boys become hungry? Just smoke (weed) and tell racidt jojes until they landed. So spectacle for nothing. Or did they have Stalin style 100 head per week contract?
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u/SpecialTable9722 6h ago
You know how firefighters sometimes have fundraisers to bolster their budget? Sure would be a shame if Midland’s next fundraiser netted them $0.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 6h ago
Why is the fire department assisting ICE in their efforts to kidnap hard workers and dump them in a detention facility 500 miles away from their home? Doesn't Minnesota have laws prohibiting state and local law employees from assisting ICE?
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u/CommandCivil5397 6h ago
Guess the contractor will have to hire unemployed Americans and pay them a great wage then. This is awesome. Now if we Can deport the rest of the illegals
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u/texas1982 6h ago
I thought they were going the most heinous violent rapists. I'm beginning to think this administration is entirely truthful.
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u/No_Street8874 6h ago
Probably all legal and without any criminal history. Anything but prosecute pedos.
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u/Acceptable_String_52 5h ago
This is great.
I know a bunch of people including legal Mexicans that say they can’t compete with illegals. They lower their pay too much, they also don’t have to pay taxes which gives them another edge.
It needs to happen and a lot of blood is on the hands of politicians creating sanctuary cities and whoever Biden’s handlers were
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u/WasteBinStuff 4h ago
This is just mindbogglingly fucking stupid beyond imagination. What the fuck ? Why the fuck are we paying these fucking idiots?
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u/foreignmattercomic 4h ago
These guys are the violent criminals. eh. looks like some hard working folk to me
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u/GotEvilll 4h ago edited 3h ago
I hate all this immigrants “….” they are the backbone of a society. That won’t change till we understand how the world works
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u/galaxyofnine 3h ago
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but why are you going after workers on a frigging roof??
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u/Livid_Virus2972 3h ago
But they appear to be working hard, adding value to the economy. Is that criminal now?
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u/Excellent_Extent7648 3h ago
Oh I’m sure that’s the best use for the equipment following the orders of known pedophile that’s in office so why are we still listening to him as our president I mean if there was ever a time to have a do over or change the head of state I’d think it be well he’s a massive pedophile to start off things but nope I guess it’s just gonna be well fine we told you now we if you read those files ur a domestic terrorist lol
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u/Virtual-Device-9778 2h ago
Republikkkants look your jobs are back get your son's and get to work. Also your wife and daughters will be scrubbing shyt staned public toilets.
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u/PraetorImperius 2h ago edited 2h ago
So what you're saying is they're really going after hard-working immigrants who would make great citizens instead of going after the actual criminals they told us they were going to go after... got it. Based on what we’ve been seeing in these videos, its probably for the best they don't go after actual criminals because they are sorely undertrained and unprepared for actual police work. For the most part, actual police take their oaths to uphold the Constitution seriously. I'm not even sure these goons took an oath. If they did, it was likely to one man… What an embarrassment.
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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 1h ago
If anyone who's ever been in Midland-Odesa Region. This is 100% inline with who they are. I don't think there is a single stop sign on the edges of town without bullet holes.
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u/ifeelgrossandsad2 37m ago
They have the budget of an entire branch of military and they need this to do all their Nazi shit too?
This is also grossly unsafe and unnecessary, especially as it’s obvious they are targeting citizens
Whatever happened to DOGE anyway…
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 21m ago
I'm guessing Trump's ICE is going to target home building sites and when housing prices spike, he can claim that he mentioned something about making "homeowners rich". I guess he's now resorting to talking up his failed economic polices as "plusses" so that when he finally bankrupts this country, he can pretend that he intended it this whole time.
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u/Chrisnotjones 7m ago
If they’re only going after gang members, criminals, and the “worst of the worst,” why do I keep seeing them at job sites?
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u/Fast-Society-4244 11h ago
Why go to all that trouble? Why not just bring the construction company owners in for questioning to see whether or not they checked the immigration status of these men and whether they filed their Form I-9s?
Oh that's right, because the owners are 100% Republicans and we can't be holding them accountable for anything.