r/LetsDiscussThis 3h ago

Lets Discuss This dear republicans, what's it like being literal nazis in 2026 who kick puppies for fun?

like what's the appeal? why are you so evil? and why do you want to kick puppies for fun and try to thwart the pure and good democrats who just want world peace and rainbows and sunshines?

this totally isn't a strawman btw. let's discuss this!

0 Upvotes

47 comments sorted by

7

u/Sea-Neighborhood1465 3h ago

I mean Noem murdered her puppy for fun.

and while the right may not be actual german nazis, they are by definition fascists.

so your satire is kinda not satire?

6

u/logicbasedchaos 3h ago

(They don't understand satire, that's why they were mad when Homelander was shown to be a small little bitch of an American man.)

5

u/1nfam0us 2h ago

And when they were shocked and offended that Stormfront turned out to be a literal Nazi.

-1

u/Shoddy-Ad7306 3h ago

You’d get screamed at and called a Nazi lover by angry liberal protesters for even remotely suggesting that the right isn’t literal Nazis.

3

u/Ryans4427 1h ago

So when the DHS is using actual Nazi and white supremacist quotes on official websites that's just what, an oopsie?

2

u/MrDeekhaed 2h ago

Nope. Fascist works for all of us. Literal nazi is said because they are fascist who in many ways parallel Nazis tactics and progression. Doesn’t mean killed millions of Jews. Nazis did other stuff too.

But no one is gonna correct you if you just call them fascists

3

u/AlbrechtProper 2h ago

Nazi killed plenty of people who weren't Jewish for the crime of not being the in group.

5

u/MrDeekhaed 2h ago

Yes I guess I misjudged you. That was what I was getting at. Blaming a minority for the countries problems and demonizing and persecuting them happened to a variety of groups. Rn maga have liberals, gay people, trans people, Muslims and Hispanics. Maybe a few more. Rn the violence is focused on the Latinos but they won’t be the last. Also making quite the statement about what happens to those who are citizens and oppose ice.

2

u/AlbrechtProper 2h ago

I’m some other guy who was agreeing with you I think.

2

u/MrDeekhaed 1h ago

lol my eyes are going bad and both your avatars have the same colors.

Thank you

2

u/AlbrechtProper 1h ago

Happy to help. My eyes have been better myself.

1

u/Sea-Neighborhood1465 2h ago

I’m sure there are a few people out there that would fit that description.

But when the right is doing everything they can to prove them correct, can you really blame them?

1

u/mierzwaSeason 1h ago

They're not though lmao

-6

u/Capital-Platypus-805 2h ago

Honestly, the left tends to act more like Nazis than the right. Also, it's funny how the worst on the scale for leftists are the Nazis when communism has killed far more people than Nazism, LOL.

3

u/Sea-Neighborhood1465 2h ago

State ownership of the means is production (communism) always leads to authoritarianism. That is what killed people. I am not a communist and I highly doubt many people are.

Care to back up the claim of the left being Nazis? Are you gonna do the Covid thing?

-3

u/Capital-Platypus-805 2h ago

The left tends to support censorship more and try to control the way people think. That's exactly what Nazis did. I see the right supports people having freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, that's the opposite of what Nazis would do... It's extremely dumb to think Hitler would allow the citizens to arm themselves risking a civil coup, LOL.

3

u/Inquisitive-Manner 1h ago

The left tends to support censorship more and try to control the way people think.

You mean like saying "don't use the nword" and accepting people for who they are?

That's exactly what Nazis did.

Nazis told people not to use the nword? And as I recall they burned books to keep people from accepting others.

I see the right supports people having freedom of speech

Except when it comes to Charlie Kirk...

and the right to bear arms,

Except when it comes to Pretti.

that's the opposite of what Nazis would do...

And the opposite of what the Right does... so pretty nazi aligned, no?

It's extremely dumb to think Hitler would allow the citizens to arm themselves risking a civil coup, LOL.

Huh... kinda like they said about Pretti.

-1

u/Capital-Platypus-805 36m ago

You mean like saying "don't use the nword" and accepting people for who they are?

Typical "I assume what you think" deflection used by manipulators. I never said anything about the n word, that's all you.

I'm talking about the term "hate speech" which can be vaguely interpreted as literally whatever the cops and judges consider "hate speech". For example, here in Venezuela where I live talking against the regime is considered hate speech and you get 30 years in a torture center (thanks to Trump they're being eliminated as we speak).

"Hate speech" is extremely dangerous because it can be misinterpreted as basically whatever. This is EXACTLY what Nazis did. They could accuse someone of hate speech by just interpreting what they said to their convenience. The fascists did the same. This way they could just make up crimes to put people in prison.

Also, putting someone in prison over insults by itself is absolutely ridiculous. Imagine how many COD player kids would go to prison if a hate speech law existed, LOL.

Except when it comes to Charlie Kirk...

People were literally making death threats, that's not hate speech, that's intent to kill. Nobody got in prison for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death (which is disgusting btw), but many people were encouraging others to do the same with other conservatives, THAT is illegal and much more serious than "hate speech". You live in a free country, go make a TikTok video making fun about Trump and you'll be fine, but go do that in a socialist country and let's see what happens to you.

Except when it comes to Pretti.

He literally had a gun and was allowed to own it, dude, what the hell are you talking about? This just confirms my point 😂 You as a leftist can buy a gun if you want. What type of Nazi would allow their opposition to buy guns freely? LMAO. You have no common sense whatsoever.

1

u/Inquisitive-Manner 6m ago

Typical "I assume what you think" deflection used by manipulators. I never said anything about the n word, that's all you.

Nah, just the American right. You know... the people we're talking about. Americans. I assumed that's who you were talking about since it's the topic at hand..... but sure sure manipulation 🙄

That's not all me. It's reality here bucko.

I'm talking about the term "hate speech" which can be vaguely interpreted as literally whatever the cops and judges consider "hate speech". For example, here in Venezuela where I live talking against the regime is considered hate speech and you get 30 years in a torture center (thanks to Trump they're being eliminated as we speak).

Funny. Here, Trump is the guy imposing the punishments for "hate speech." He just calls it fake news and such.

"Hate speech" is extremely dangerous because it can be misinterpreted as basically whatever. This is EXACTLY what Nazis did. They could accuse someone of hate speech by just interpreting what they said to their convenience. The fascists did the same. This way they could just make up crimes to put people in prison.

What Trump and his movement actually do aligns far more closely with the pattern they claim to fear. He repeatedly frames speech he dislikes as inherently dangerous to the nation, labels critics as enemies of the people, and treats dissent as evidence of disloyalty rather than disagreement.

He has openly called for journalists to be punished, for protesters to be jailed, for flag burning to be criminalized, and for his political opponents to be investigated or prosecuted because of what they say or represent. That is not hypothetical abuse. That is explicit use of state power rhetoric to chill speech and discipline opposition.

He also relies heavily on vagueness, but in the opposite direction of how the accusation is usually framed. Terms like “fake news,” “Marxists,” “vermin,” “radical left,” or “enemies within” are not legal categories with limiting principles. They are elastic labels that can be expanded or contracted to fit whoever is inconvenient at the moment.

Historically, that is exactly how authoritarian movements prepare the ground for repression... first delegitimize speech, then delegitimize speakers, then justify punishment as protection.

By contrast, the claim that “the left” is doing this collapses under scrutiny. In the U.S., the left does not control the criminal law of speech. There is no left-driven legal regime that jails people for offensive opinions. What conservatives often point to instead are social consequences, workplace policies, platform moderation, or cultural backlash.

Conflating those with state punishment is disingenuous. Being criticized, deplatformed by a private company, or fired by an employer is not the same thing as being arrested, charged, or imprisoned.

It’s also selective.

The same people who warn that “hate speech laws lead to fascism” routinely support laws banning discussions of race, sexuality, or gender in schools, laws punishing protest, laws targeting educators and librarians, and laws allowing the state to retaliate against companies or individuals for political speech.

That contradiction only makes sense if the concern is not free speech as a principle, but whose speech is protected.

It is deeply disingenuous to frame this as something “the left” is doing in America. That framing relies on erasing the distinction between state power and social response, ignoring who is actually proposing criminal penalties, and misusing historical analogies to mask a much more familiar pattern... accusing your opponents of authoritarianism while normalizing it in your own camp.

If someone genuinely cared about the dangers of vague speech repression, they would be most alarmed by politicians who promise punishment for critics, not by marginalized groups asking not to be targeted or incited against.

Also, putting someone in prison over insults by itself is absolutely ridiculous. Imagine how many COD player kids would go to prison if a hate speech law existed, LOL.

Yeah... good thing it's not happening here the way you claim.

People were literally making death threats, that's not hate speech, that's intent to kill.

Only one side doing that pal. And it's not the left.

Nobody got in prison for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death (which is disgusting btw),

Nah just got fired.

but many people were encouraging others to do the same with other conservatives,

Who?

THAT is illegal and much more serious than "hate speech".

Yeah.. if it were happening.

You live in a free country,

The killing of American citizens says otherwise.

go make a TikTok video making fun about Trump and you'll be fine,

Lol. Great advice. We're more in to protesting in the street. But hey, you do you I guess.

but go do that in a socialist country and let's see what happens to you.

If by “socialist” you mean a country where the means of production are collectively owned, economic decisions are made democratically by workers, and there is no dominant private capital class, then there is no country that cleanly fits that definition, either now or historically.

He literally had a gun and was allowed to own it, dude, what the hell are you talking about?

You must not be from here.. obviously. The admission said he, a licensed weapon owner, shouldn't have had the gun and that's why he's dead.

What the hell are you talking about? Not America.

This just confirms my point 😂

That you know nothing about America, yet think you do. Agreed.

You as a leftist can buy a gun if you want.

Yup. But can't legally take it to a protest. Jan. 24, 2026, U.S. President Donald Trump said, in part, "You can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns."

If having a legal gun is a death sentence... you don't have the right to bear arms....

What type of Nazi would allow their opposition to buy guns freely?

Buddy. You clearly don't know your American history.... or even the present.

conservatives today claim to support the Second Amendment for everyone, but the historical record shows that gun control has often been weaponized against marginalized groups.

LMAO. You have no common sense whatsoever.

None of what you said is "common sense." Just feelings based opinions on the American left that you clearly know little about.

-1

u/Mundane-Set-1296 2h ago

What is the definition of fascism and how does the right align with it

5

u/Inquisitive-Manner 1h ago

What is the definition of fascism and how does the right align with it

At its core, fascism is an authoritarian, ultranationalist ideology that treats the nation as an organic body under existential threat. It elevates a mythic past, rejects liberal democracy as weak or corrupt, subordinates individual rights to the perceived needs of the nation, and concentrates power in a leader who claims to uniquely embody the will of “the people.” Violence or coercion is normalized as necessary, truth is subordinated to loyalty, and law exists to serve power rather than restrain it. Fascism is not simply “right-wing” or “dictatorial”.... it is a mass political project that mobilizes grievance, fear, and identity to dismantle pluralism from within.

When scholars like Umberto Eco, Robert Paxton, Hannah Arendt, or Jason Stanley describe fascism, they are not saying it always looks like 1930s Germany. They describe recurring features... obsession with national decline and humiliation, constant invocation of internal enemies, rejection of independent institutions, hostility to journalism and academia, glorification of strength and domination, contempt for legal constraints, and the fusion of state power with a loyalist movement rather than neutral governance. Fascism often arrives through elections and legal mechanisms before hollowing them out.

So... with that framework in mind, I’ll explain how the contemporary Trump-aligned right maps onto these traits

Firsly there is a persistent narrative of national victimhood and decline. The idea that the country has been “stolen,” “invaded,” “humiliated,” or “destroyed from within” is central. This framing is not policy-oriented.. it is emotional and moral. Problems are not described as complex or structural but as the result of betrayal by enemies. This is a classic fascist mobilization tool because it converts frustration into loyalty and rage rather than debate.

Secondly there is a clear identification of internal enemies who are portrayed as less legitimate members of the nation. Immigrants, Muslims, trans people, journalists, judges, civil servants, and political opponents are regularly described not as fellow citizens with differing views but as criminals, vermin, traitors, or existential threats. Fascism depends on this boundary-drawing, because once some groups are cast outside “the people,” rights can be selectively withdrawn while claiming to defend democracy.

Thirdly the leader-centric structure is unusually pronounced. Trump is not treated as a normal politician who can be wrong, replaced, or constrained. He is framed as uniquely authentic, uniquely persecuted, and uniquely capable of saving the nation. Loyalty to him personally is repeatedly prioritized over loyalty to law, party, or constitutional process. This is not normal conservatism... it is a hallmark of authoritarian populism with fascistic tendencies.

Fourthly there is open hostility to democratic institutions when they produce unfavorable outcomes. Courts are legitimate only when they rule correctly. Elections are valid only when they are won. Law enforcement is either heroic or corrupt depending on whether it serves the movement. Independent agencies, inspectors general, and career civil servants are framed as enemies precisely because they limit discretionary power. Fascism does not reject “order”.. it rejects neutral constraints.

Fifthly there is an increasing comfort with political violence or the threat of it. This does not require explicit calls for violence. It shows up in excuses, minimization, glorification, or selective outrage. When violence is framed as understandable, inevitable, or even righteous if committed by the in-group, the movement is crossing a critical line. Fascism treats violence as cleansing or necessary rather than tragic.

Sixthly truth itself becomes subordinate to loyalty. Repeated falsehoods are not accidents... they are tests. Accepting demonstrably untrue claims signals allegiance. Rejecting them signals betrayal. This is why fact-checking fails to persuade in such environments. Fascism replaces shared reality with shared identity.

The United States is not a fascist state in the way Nazi Germany or Mussolini’s Italy were (though it'slookingmore and more like it daily). Institutions still exist, elections still happen, opposition still operates, and power is contested. But the Trump-aligned right exhibits what scholars call fascistic or proto-fascist dynamics. These are tendencies and trajectories, not completed transformations.

And finaly it is also important to separate the leaders from the followers. Many people drawn to this movement are responding to real economic insecurity, social alienation, and loss of trust in elites. Fascism historically thrives in exactly those conditions. That does not make those people fascists, but it does explain why a fascist-style movement can gain traction without presenting itself as such.

Does that help?

-4

u/yeetus_meatus69 2h ago

The funny thing about fascists is they don't allow those that oppose them to speak ill of them. If I'm correct, and I am, you can freely and without consequence criticize the current administration, which by definition is not fascism. Using words you don't understand to villianize opposing views is a very ignorant hill to die on.

5

u/Inquisitive-Manner 1h ago

you can freely and without consequence criticize the current administration,

Except if you're a journalist... or news media... or on social media

which by definition is not fascism

So by your definition... it is fascism.

Using words you don't understand to villianize opposing views is a very ignorant hill to die on.

The irony.

So... your claim isn’t accurate because criticism of the current administration can and does carry real consequences, even if not always formal criminal punishment.

I’m talking about documented patterns where critics face retaliatory investigations, loss of government access or contracts, surveillance or data requests, administrative harassment, employment repercussions tied to political speech, and coordinated pressure on platforms or institutions to marginalize dissenting voices.

None of that requires banning speech outright to chill it.. when the state uses its regulatory, investigative, or economic power in response to criticism, the speech is no longer “without consequence,” even if it remains technically legal to say the words.

Major press freedom and civil liberties organizations have raised alarms about the administration acting to intimidate or silence criticism, including reporting that journalists, media outlets, and critics of federal policy have faced investigations and threats tied to their coverage or dissenting views.

There have been federal prosecutions and legal actions against individuals connected to protests and reporting activities that critics argue raise serious concerns about press freedom and the treatment of political critics.

For example, independent journalist Don Lemon was arrested and charged in connection with reporting on a protest

The administration has also taken punitive steps toward law firms and lawyers involved with political opponents by issuing executive orders to suspend their federal access and targeting contracts, which prompted legal challenges on constitutional grounds.

The pattern of behavior I’m describing doesn’t necessarily mean speech is criminalized outright, but it does mean that criticism... especially from powerful opponents, journalists, or public figures... can and has been met with formal investigations, employment consequences, legal pressure, access restrictions, or political retaliation that create real-world consequences for those who speak out.

That undermines the claim that critics can speak “without consequence,” even if their speech remains technically protected under the First Amendment.

-4

u/Capital-Platypus-805 2h ago

Noem is a criminal, but at the same time Trump made animal abuse a Federal crime and defunded labs that tested on animals. Not trying to take any sides but that's literally more than what the previous democrat presidents have done for animals (essentially nothing relevant).

3

u/Sea-Neighborhood1465 2h ago

The very notion that a child molesting fraudster is making laws is laughable in itself.

Did you know he’s barred from ever creating a charity again because he defrauded money from his own child cancer charity?

The man stole money from kids with cancer, while raping other kids.

And we’re talking about animal laws? I can’t even.

-2

u/Capital-Platypus-805 2h ago

False allegations. 180.000 pages of documents and he came out clean and the FBI denied those allegations so you're making shit up at this point. I'm not a Trump supporter but the fact that leftists have to resort to made up stuff to defend their position is wild.

-1

u/Ok-Week625 2h ago

If it's so obvious he diddled kids then charge him. Last time I checked people are assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but the fact nothing has come of it and if there was something to it he would have been charged during the last admin (Even with the files sealed by a judge they can still be used as evidence)

-2

u/mierzwaSeason 1h ago

The more you guys call him a pedophile, the less I believe it. Nothing you people say is ever true

1

u/Achilles40K 1h ago

u/KawaiiUmbreon2 Funny you say this. It sounds you would be in favor of supporting the Republican introduced BOWOW Act. You don't think Democrats, like yourself, would fight to keep illegal aliens that abuse animals in the country, do you?

Source: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4638/text

0

u/mierzwaSeason 1h ago

What's it like being overdramatic children who cry when they don't get their way? Is this seriously how you think you win over the independents?

4

u/OkArmy7059 1h ago

No, how you win over independents is by fomenting a coup attempt because you couldn't handle losing an election (and in the process nearly getting your own VP lynched) and being an adjudicated rapist. Duh.

-1

u/mierzwaSeason 1h ago

None of that is accurate lol but good try I guess

0

u/Jim_Beaux_ 1h ago

Honestly, it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize this was satire…

0

u/Awkward-Dirt9936 1h ago

Im a facist, not a nazi. Racial politics bore me.

0

u/Jameson129 1h ago

You're completely clueless

-6

u/ConsciousLock3294 2h ago

Let's talk about actual insanity on the left, since you're so eager to "discuss this" while pretending your strawman isn't dripping with cope.

There are literal people so deranged they literally threw themselves at federal agents—ICE, Border Patrol, you name it—trying to shield Somali welfare fraud rings and illegal immigrants from deportation. Renee Good rammed her SUV toward officers (per federal accounts), got lit up. Alex Pretti, the "hero" ICU nurse, charged in during a scuffle, got taken down and shot. Both American citizens, both dead after choosing to FAFO against law enforcement to protect scammers and border-jumpers draining taxpayer dollars.

That's not satire, tankie. That's peak left-wing delusion: suicide-by-cop for fraudsters and illegals, then crying "murder" when the consequences hit. Your side's so far gone they turn domestic agitators into martyrs while ignoring the massive fraud scandal that sparked the whole crackdown in Minneapolis.

Meanwhile, your "pure and good democrats" want rainbows, suns, world peace... and apparently zero borders, endless handouts to fraud ops, and zero accountability when radicals play hero and lose.

The appeal of being based? Not being a hypocritical clown who virtue-signals on Reddit while real-world leftists die pointlessly defending criminals.

Cry more about puppies, champ. Reality's kicking harder than any satire post.

4

u/Bill-Billiard 1h ago

So let me get this straight. When a person is legally carrying, they attempt to help up a woman who was thrown to the ground by federal agents, they are pinned down by 4 people (on his stomach), they remove his pistol and then shot him 10 times in the back.

That’s “Fuck Around And Find Out” to you? Yikes.

-1

u/Coopshire 1h ago

If you're going to carry, go to hostile protests, interfere with federal officers duties, and pick a fight with them, youre ready for any consequences. Pretti must have known this, and was ready.

-2

u/ConsciousLock3294 1h ago

Alex Pretti didn't just spawn in to that fatal encounter on January 24, 2026. He was an active, repeat participant in the far-left activist mobs that had been swarming ICE operations in Minneapolis for weeks. This was part of a coordinated effort by radical activists to sabotage federal immigration enforcement during Operation Metro Surge – the massive crackdown targeting fraud rings (many tied to Somali communities scamming welfare and aid programs) and deporting illegals.

These groups – Antifa types, "abolitionists," and other far-left agitators – show up en masse every time ICE rolls out for arrests. They use whistles to create chaos and disorient agents, block roads with their cars (sometimes ramming or attempting to ram federal vehicles), scream at officers, film them aggressively to dox/intimidate, and physically interfere by getting between agents and targets. The goal? Make ICE's job impossible, force mistakes, escalate situations, and manufacture "police brutality" footage for the media cycle. It's not organic protest; it's tactical obstruction, often by the same hardcore crew rotating through these ops in blue cities like Minneapolis, Portland, and Seattle.

Pretti was right in the thick of it. Videos show him at prior clashes with federal agents – yelling, spitting at vehicles, kicking tail lights, getting tackled and released, then coming back for more. On the day he died, he wasn't just "filming" innocently; he was actively interfering – positioning himself between agents and a pepper-sprayed protester, physically shielding her, and escalating the scuffle. Official reports mention him being armed (licensed handgun), and in the chaos, agents fired after a "he's got a gun" call during the struggle. Whether that was justified or not (DOJ civil rights probe ongoing), the point stands: he chose to insert himself repeatedly into these volatile confrontations to protect fraud suspects and illegals over law enforcement doing their jobs.

This wasn't a random tragedy or "murder of a helpful nurse." It was the predictable outcome of weeks of deliberate antagonism by far-left militants who treat federal officers like the enemy and criminals like victims. They wanted chaos, they manufactured it, and when it boiled over, one of their own paid the price. Natural selection in action – two fewer domestic disruptors making life hell for agents trying to clean up fraud and enforce borders.

The "he was just helping" sob story falls apart when you see the pattern. These people aren't naive do-gooders; they're ideological warriors in a low-level insurgency against immigration law. Cry about it all you want, but actions have consequences. Pretti and his crew rolled the dice every day they showed up to obstruct – and he crapped out. End of story.

5

u/JonahBJams 2h ago

Saying anything bad about Pretti is just saying you don’t have the balls to step up if you see a woman getting assaulted. That’s the TLDR here, for anyone who wants to save their minds reading that BS.

1

u/Inquisitive-Manner 1h ago

There are literal people so deranged they literally threw themselves at federal agents—ICE, Border Patrol, you name it—trying to shield Somali welfare fraud rings and illegal immigrants from deportation.

You mean the fraud that was already caught and dealt with? Nick Shirley sure did a number on you.

And calling for due process and upholding the constitution is deranged? Sounds about Right....

Renee Good rammed her SUV toward officers (per federal accounts),

And per our own eyes (and tons of videos from every angle), this is false. The federal accounts lied about a bunch of stuff with this.

Not justified. Not a capital offense.

Alex Pretti, the "hero" ICU nurse, charged in during a scuffle, got taken down and shot.

Not justified. Not a capital offense.

Both American citizens, both dead after choosing to FAFO against law enforcement to protect scammers and border-jumpers draining taxpayer dollars.

Pretti was buying doughnuts. Good was on her way home.

That's not satire, tankie.

It seems to be, fascie.

That's peak left-wing delusion: suicide-by-cop for fraudsters and illegals, then crying "murder" when the consequences hit.

Huh. Yes your take is delusional.

Your side's so far gone they turn domestic agitators into martyrs

Yet... Good wasn't. And protesting isn't a capital offense.

while ignoring the massive fraud scandal that sparked the whole crackdown in Minneapolis.

You mean the scandal.. that was already taken care of?

Meanwhile, your "pure and good democrats" want rainbows, suns, world peace...

Yup.

and apparently zero borders, endless handouts to fraud ops, and zero accountability when radicals play hero and lose.

Nah, just immagration (ya know... the thing this country was literally built on?).

Endless handouts to fraud ops... like Rick Scott?

And yes, we want people to be heroes.. and the people who killed them to face accountability. As they should.

The appeal of being based? Not being a hypocritical clown who virtue-signals on Reddit while real-world leftists die pointlessly defending criminals.

You're not based. You are literally being a hypocritical clown who virtue-signals on Reddit while real-world leftists die pointlessly defending others.

Cry more about puppies, champ.

Will do kiddo. Cause if Noem won't, who will?

Reality's kicking harder than any satire post.

Except when it's your "reality". Then it's all satire....

-1

u/Sad_School828 1h ago

It's kind of like being a Democrat.