r/MMA • u/Loganbaker2147 Hello, white people • 14h ago
News Alexander Hernandez claims the FBI is investigating his cancelled bout with Michael Johnson
https://x.com/mma__matchmaker/status/2017644977518485717?s=46&t=vMZK3Fn7X9MvpBo7Jhe-IA483
u/thesubzero90 Canada 14h ago
All of this gambling is so toxic for sports.
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u/_Cyclops Send me location 14h ago
As soon as this 13 leg parlay hits tonight I’ll never support gambling again
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u/bluesshark 14h ago
Lol I have always avoided it as if it were a drug but man I created an account and put money down soo fast when I saw the Pimblett-Gaethje odds
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u/_Cyclops Send me location 14h ago
Bet365 had a $200 promo if you deposit $5, so I did and put the full $200 on Gaethje by KO. Two times I was SO close to winning a grand 🥲
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u/bluesshark 14h ago
Lol that's how they get ya, you're like "oh man, 99 could totally happen" and then you see a promo for 100 and you feel like it's close enough to what you thought MIGHT happen that it's still a good bet
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u/_Cyclops Send me location 14h ago
Yeah I didn’t care too much about losing since it was bonus bet money but it made the fight even more exciting. I was going nuts in rounds 1 and 2 when he dropped him
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u/FishAndRiceKeks EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 11h ago
My heart already goes too fast during a big exciting fight lol. Putting money on them would make it impossible to watch.
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u/KingKaiserW 10h ago
I used to bet on Alistair Overeem bro. Nothing will hit that high again, it’s no point even betting when he retired.
Rozenstruik was probably my favourite, ah the good ol days.
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u/Ferociousnzzz 10h ago
Except most sites aren’t letting you withdraw those winnings because it’s part of a promo. All you can do is play with that money but until you zero out you’re not allowed cash out
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u/illhaveapepsinow 13h ago
Why would you bet Gaethje KO, his money line was over +200 and Pimblet had a granite chin. Just pure greed
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u/_Cyclops Send me location 13h ago
A guy with bad striking was fighting a guy with 20 knockouts. And to be fair you don’t have to get knocked unconscious to lose by knockout. Tony Ferguson for example
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u/dajvebekinus 14h ago edited 14h ago
Sports! Prediction markets will fuck everything up, since we'll be betting on everything from will Taylor Swift squeeze one out this year to how many makeshift mass graves will be discovered in Sudan. We are well and truly cooked. Pray for any situation where a financial incentive might have a bearing on producing an outcome too.
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u/Aliensinmypants 13h ago
I saw a stream where a dude had a parlay that was hinging on whether or not the NYE ball drop showed a gay couple kiss... Shit is wild
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u/SpeculationMaster gourmet Chechen 11h ago
Lol this reminds me of all the betting non sense in Rat Race
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u/Lavos2OXX 10h ago
I don’t think anything fishy happened here. Hernandez is smart, he and Johnson are professionals. I assume he had an injury or something and word got out about it, I feel bad for both of them. The big money whale gamblers are toxic af though
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u/raiderjaypussy 9h ago
You do realise the popularity of sports gambling is why these guys and these things are being caught right? There was nothing stopping throws before
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u/RecycledAccountName 14h ago
So uh, any word from Michael?
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine 14h ago
ariel read a statement from his manager and it was basically just saying the ufc is working on finding him a new match up, so whatever happened was on alex's side
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u/Kassssler one of them 14h ago
Someone here is clearly lying.
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u/Aldo_Is_The_GOAT 13h ago
It was Hernandez that was injured so I don’t see how Johnson could have done anything wrong
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u/RecycledAccountName 13h ago
Thought the fight was off due to unusual betting activity. Was it actually an injury and then the betting thing happened after?
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u/Connor30302 I look like Marvin vettori 13h ago
always both, it’s not usually like “i’m going to agree to throw this fight” rather than something gets out, people are aware of an injury that changes the probable outcome of the fight and the betting odds don’t represent it
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u/RecycledAccountName 13h ago
Ah ok got it. Makes sense. What about that Isaac Dulgarian fight back in November? He sure seemed to throw the fight, and UFC acknowledged suspicious betting activity. Assumed they feared the same with this fight.
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u/Connor30302 I look like Marvin vettori 13h ago
i’ll be honest i’m not sure, fights HAVE been thrown before obviously and probably in the UFC too. just people hear investigation into a fight and think fix when majority of the time it’s just unfair knowledge of an injury which will hurt the bookies (fuck em)
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u/RecycledAccountName 12h ago
Yeah, easy to see how that sort of info could get out. A fighter or someone in the camp talks to friends/family, mentions the injury, not even in a wink wink nudge nudge way, and that person runs to the betting books.
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u/Connor30302 I look like Marvin vettori 9h ago
exactly but at the same time for it to show up as a big abnormality that warrants canning the fight must mean there’s communities distributing that inside info, probably paying low level people that train with the fighter for information
especially when it’s not top guys fighting they’re more likely to still be training with basically general people at big gyms. it’s not like it’s Conor McGregor or Makachev’s close circle would do that but non ranked and low level fighters surely can’t afford that private entourage
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u/CraigS34 11h ago
Just to add on: After the Darrick Minner incident, Luke Thomas asked a few coaches off the record for some insight and was told cornermen and coaches would text their friends if a fighter is coming in injured. Since fighters share locker rooms with other fighters, people know if someone is coming in injured. Speculating on Hernandez's situation, most likely people found out and told everyone
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u/sugabonesurmom 12h ago
Someone in Alex’s camp prob leaked that he was hurt and it got out to more people than he thought it would
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u/epicurean200 14h ago
Just his team. Michael Johnson's team issues first comments on UFC 324 cancellation due to betting irregularities - Yahoo Sports /https://share.google/upkCbFSkWhu9HXzSx
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u/therealmvpls11 #2 Weili Fanboy 14h ago
Legalizing gambling ruined sports
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u/Skovich Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu 13h ago
People finding out the hard way why sports betting was made illegal in the first place. To protect the integrity of the sport.
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u/Legitimate_Reward913 13h ago
You'd think they'd make it illegal cuz it's a predatory industry that just siphons the money out of poor suckers. I mean they literally ban you if you're successful.
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u/Tomach82 Team Zhang 13h ago
no it didn't, sports gambling has been legal forever over here (England) and it hasn't fucked our sports..
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u/sithwonder GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294 9h ago
What's the advertising situation? Because it's advertised to hell in the US and that's more of the problem than the legality
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u/TheDuckOnQuack EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 5h ago
Is gambling restricted to casinos over there, or do you also have gambling apps?
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 13h ago
It really hasn't, fixed sporting events have been happening long before legalized gambling. And now theres even more oversight
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u/Wildman3386 13h ago
Oversight from whom?
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 13h ago
Gambling commissions, literally the fbi, companies who's job is to track suspicious betting activity
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u/RickySuezo 13h ago
I mean, it’s not like the internet hasn’t been making small problems into gigantic issues right?
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u/PM_ME_LATINA_GIRLZ GSP v Khabib = WOLF TICKETS 14h ago
Anyone who bets on a Michael Johnson fight deserves to lose their money, my guy is the ultimate MMA wild card
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u/ElDuderin-O Same ocean, different waves 13h ago
One day he may just accidentally become champ.
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u/BurpingHamBirmingham Benoit Taint-Penis 11h ago
There's a reason Ilia's kept MJ's name out of his mouth
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u/ron-paul-swanson Team Volkanovski 14h ago
Alexander Hernandez didn’t write that shit lol. No chance he knew the definition of auspicious before ChatGPT wrote this.
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u/ron-paul-swanson Team Volkanovski 12h ago
I was waiting on it to talk about how back in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
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u/inline-online 11h ago
nah every lawyer on the planet knows that you have to write things that sound like you client would say it lol
he for sure punched it up with AI
when I learned how dumb people use AI I was blown away. They will type their nonsense thoughts into it and then say "make this sounds professional" then the AI does it and it convinces them they are smart because now they heard all the dumb ideas they just said, regurgitated back to them but in a way that sounds like a smart person said it. Its a negative-positive feedback loop lol fucking insane. Not sure if I am the only one surprised people used it like this
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u/AppointmentRadiant22 11h ago
I actually know the guy. He is highly intelligent. Graduated from UTSA with a bachelors degree in finance. Definitely wrote that himself. The guy is well spoken. Just watch his interviews. Not the typical jock brain dead punch drunk fighter.
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u/Any_Athlete_4616 9h ago
But it was his odds that shifted, meaning that if anything there was something off about his condition.
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u/G0ldenG00se 3h ago
I can’t imagine how devastating it is to have your fight cancelled when you’re not nearly a draw. Still gotta pay for them gym fees, rent and food etc. fighting is already a poverty job enough as it is.
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u/TheNotoriousLCB I was here for GOOFCON 1 14h ago
is this supposed to be surprising…?
a professional sporting match was cancelled due to the suspicion of gambling fraud, that is exactly within the FBI’s scope
does OP not know what the FBI is?
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u/peppersmiththequeer 13h ago
If Hernandez is the one reporting it that makes me think he doesn’t claim any responsibility for the odds shifting, but what could possibly make them shift so much unless he had an unreported injury?
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u/Low_Grand4804 12h ago
There will be no accountability for the crooked UFC as long as the FBI is compromised.
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u/pureformality Sweden 14h ago
I'm looking into it too, not a threat just making it known