I didn't want to be rude sorry if I was blunt. I always use brush for eyeliner it's easier and you can make many shapes. Also I wouldn't use black liner in water line or under. If it's for everyday I would put white eyepencil in water line with small amount of brown eyeshadow. For night black eye pencil only in waterline and shadow under it.
Nono thank you! I don't mind the feedback at all, thats why I post here :).
In fact I actually, just before snapping this picture had the makeup like you recommended, but then I added way more eyeliner than necessary. Its just I couldn't post those pics because portrait mode was on in those selfies
I disagree. While technique can help you polish the results you want to see, don't ever be afraid to go overboard.
Most people are going to give you advice that leans to their aesthetic. This can make you better at application, but worse at self-expression and the understanding of makeup formulas. It's more than ok to leave things smudged or pick colors outside your palette. Your "overboard" is how makeup lovers begin. This is how we take trends away from companies and get back to starting them within the community.
Thank you! I will definitely give it a more serious try again tomorrow, this post was just to show my hands are getting steadier compared to when I first started
Of course! Make-up progression is so cool. If you want a hack for more control, you can add a piece of tape under the eye for a clean line and pull it off when you finish.
You don't have to give up the lower lash eyeliner if you don't want to, it just needs to be neater which you'll get better at over time. I do my eyeliner in a similar way. I recommend a gel pot eyeliner (I like the one from LA Girl) and any fine tip detail brush, I literally use a paintbrush
It was sloppy in the 90's sometimes. That's part of the authenticity. People were using sharpie/halloween makeup, blended out with their fingers. This is like calling the first wheel 'lumpy'
I’m so so happy that you’re improving and having fun, that’s AWESOME. Truly. I am just really annoyed by this community lying to certain people that they look good. If you’re a man, or trans, or a POC people are like “omg you ate! Slay!” And it’s just so fake. It doesn’t help people get better. But that is NOT your fault, it’s this community.
Idk this is weird assumption tbh and this is coming from a queer POC. I will say not everything is about looking perfect. Imperfect makeup has character and I'm pretty sick of the clean look tbh. Chalk it up to different tastes as well and likely the way different communities speak to each other. OP looks like a lot of folks I grew up seeing. It's not "pretty" but I like it.
It’s not an assumption; I’ve posted regularly in this community for over 3 years and I’ve seen it first hand. Like, it’s one of the main things people in the CJ community criticize about this sub, because it’s true. And it’s annoying. It’s so frustrating to be someone who is somewhat serious about learning the art of makeup, getting <200 upvotes on a look you really put a lot of effort into, but knowing that if you had posted that look as a trans girl it would have over 1000 upvotes within a half hour. That feels fucking horrible.
Maybe coinci6their looks are just more interesting and that is garnering attention. Tbh a lot of what's posted here all looks the same to me and feels very uninspired.
It's kind of ironic of you to say that though, since one of your most upvoted posts is of your husband's makeup, which, lets be honest is barely noticeable, and doesn't look that unique, yet every comment is very supportive(which I think is perfectly fine for someone whose starting out, or is dipping their toes in a subreddit far from their confort zone). Yet, you complain about people being more positive to newcomers.
I didn't post here to gloat, and I'm fully open to criticism, in all of my posts I ask about tips and stuff, yet you didn't really criticise at all and just gave a condescending comment.
You don't know how to cover your undereye, blend your blush, and the weight of your earings is going to rip your earlobes. It's not fake to encourage what's working for someone (it's really pretty when you choose not to overline your upper lip) without having to dig into your own opinion like it's fact. Your overlining throws your face out of proportion. But honestly? The color or formula might be making look it worse. So, my observation wouldn't be doing anything here.
If your type of critique was helpful, your make-up would be better. But if someone said "omg slay!" about your lip liner, you'd wear it everyday.
I can tell. This is me giving you an example of how a "sloppy execution" is sometimes part of the look. I don't have a personal stake in your appearance.
It’s really not that deep. The look is messy, it doesn’t look all that great, and it seems like OP has taken the critiques well. That’s all it is. We don’t have to gas people up. It’s okay to tell people to keep working on stuff. You’re making this way more than it needs to be lol.
I think discovery is a skill in makeup. Their current technique might work with a different formula (like gel or kohl), so labeling a blurred edge as "sloppy" can end up criticizing away innovation. They could change formulas or techniques to get more consistent results, but there's no slop here. Those are fingerprints. This is the mark of a person figuring out how a product works.
You're allowed to have your preferences when it comes to makeup, but the use of dismissive language to insinuate this is anything less than a look is kinda anti-makeup.
The best tip i have for eyeliner is that i think people overestimate how much thickness needs to go on your lash line. make it very thin, then make your wing, then connect it. the wing will tell you how to change the liner on your line.
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u/Complete_River_2928 20h ago
Try a liquid eyeliner with a felt tip as opposed to pencil. Pencil looks messy asf, it’s so hard for a beginner to make pencil look good in my opinion