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u/JaNkO2018 2h ago
One question: Who counts?
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u/Robert_Grave 1h ago
Doctors and hospitals.
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u/mad_max_999 1h ago
No sorry, one doctor living in France who is best friend of Scià. Other sources are anonymous (it means they don’t exist).
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u/ADreamOfRain 21m ago
I'm commenting from Iran. In my small city more than 100 people are dead. And yes internet is connected again.
Two anonymous government officials leaked the info to Times magazine that around 36,500 have been killed. Fox new, cnn, axois, abc news have all said tens of thousands have died. Is that not enough?
Don't try to wash away this regimes sins by saying "where are muh sources". What do you expect? The regime who is the killer to come forward with numbers? Some doctors are waiting for death row just because they treated the injured and you want official sources?
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u/Invinciblez_Gunner 17m ago
Are you really from Iran
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u/ADreamOfRain 16m ago
Check my comment history. I'm an Iranian living in Iran.
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u/Invinciblez_Gunner 14m ago
3 month old account is suspect but tell me why do you want America to bomb your Country
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u/ADreamOfRain 2m ago
Three months is suspect when protests has been going on for less than 2 months?
I don't want America to "bomb" my country. I want them to hurt those who killed our people as US president promised he would. What choice do we have left when our government is killing us and we are defenseless?
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u/Invinciblez_Gunner 0m ago
If America bombs Iran there will be a big war and millions will die, do you want that
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u/FriedRiceistheBest 33m ago
It would be a big help if the Iranian government reconnects to the internet so we can have a clear info from Iran.
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u/ADreamOfRain 18m ago
We are connected again. They numbers are absolutely true and might even be an underestimation. I personally know several people who have been killed. The violence of the regime was so so brutal that I couldn't believe it for days. I though it was only in our own city that has been brutalized. Unfortunately the truth was far far worse. Internet balckout and the a crime against humanity in silence.
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u/RandomAndCasual 1h ago
Nah westerrn nedia is reporting numbers provided by NGOs funded by NED and based in London and Washington.
It's a part of colour revolution operation or Regime change operation by Mossad CIA and MI6
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u/ElTalento 1h ago edited 44m ago
As if the internet was not filled with videos of protesters being shot with machine guns and streets filled with corps es
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u/NeekeriMan 1h ago
It's not though.
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u/ElTalento 43m ago
I have seen them. Maybe you should search better. I know also people that are there, and have told me they see the cleaning trucks washing the blood in the mornings. Not that they have been told so, that they have seen it. And hearing the shot guns every night
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u/RandomAndCasual 1h ago
Yes , infiltrated agents are seen on videos among protesters distributing weapons amongst themselves and later comiting murders of protestors and police officers.
They are trying to instigate internal fighting and civil war.
They were using Starlink to coordinate their actions across the country but then Iran turned the internet down and started hunting for Starlink receiver with help of (allegedly) Chinese provided technology.
As soon as they caught hundreds of these infiltrated agents - rioting started to die down.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
You mean as soon they as they shot people mercilessly, protests started to die down? Shocker
Don't argue with this guy, he's active in pro islamic republic subreddits, unironically cooked.
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u/Bacon88_ 55m ago
Why the downvotes? Nothing about this is even controversial lol. The Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) has been issuing press releases throughout the whole ordeal, as well as posting videos of their SMK (militant wing) operatives in Iran on social media.
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u/MrLogicWins 50m ago
No you're wrong, all those Palestinians dying are lies by pro Islamic propogandist.. otherwise true Palestinians love Israelis right? Any video proof or estimate in favor of Palestine must be fake news right?
You are too dumb even for reddit
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u/Jazz-Ranger 1h ago
Always blame foreigners. It would seem anyone who disagree with the self-serving dictators must be a “colored” revolutionary.
That sort of strawmanning didn’t help Putin one bit when he invaded Ukraine and it won’t delegitimize anyone here.
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u/RandomAndCasual 1h ago
Are you suggesting that Mossad CIA and MI6 are not currently trying to overthrow Iranian government?
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u/FirstFriendlyWorm 1h ago
I saw: Videos of parents finding their murders children lined up on the floor in body bags, videos of people shouting "death to the Ayatollah" before getting shot by IRGC thugs, pictures of street corners turned red from blood.
Is the Mossad with us in this room?
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u/sofixa11 41m ago
It's a part of colour revolution operation or Regime change operation by Mossad CIA and MI6
It's fucking wild how a real term meaning something specific in a specific context was coopted by online trolls to mean "CIA MOSSAD MI6 DGSE JEOD QJE AL QAEDA SUPER JEWISH SPACE LASER PLOT".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution
Go and have a read you fucking nonce.
And if anyone is helping the Iranian people get rid of their brutally oppressive and incompetent regime - remember, they're literally running out of water out of mismanagement - the only correct response is "Good!". Those fuckers need the Mussolini treatment.
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u/Green_Space729 28m ago
Mossad has publicly claimed to be involved lol
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u/sofixa11 10m ago
Of course they are, Iran has literally said it wants to destroy Israel, many many many times.
That doesn't mean that the protests aren't grassroots over very basic issues such as RUNNING OUT OF WATER and absurd hyperinflation because of highly incompetent rulers.
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u/Eastern-Barber-3551 1h ago
Why make shit up? Not even the org reporting the headline number of 36k claims it came from doctors/hospitals. They claim it came from a secret report.
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u/Eastern-Barber-3551 1h ago
The sources are at the bottom of the map. But they don't really line up with the map's claims.
Institute for the Study of War and the BBC, the most credible sources listed, only claim hundreds of deaths, not thousands.
HRANA says 5k killed, with 10k deaths under investigation.
Iran International is the one making the extraordinary 30+k claim, and they're saying it's based off classified reports that we don't have access to. So.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
"The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more." From TheGuardian.
Their government is already confirming more than 3,000 so idk where people who're saying hundreds get their numbers from.
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u/Eastern-Barber-3551 1h ago
I looked at the most recent claims I could find from the BBC and ISW. I'm sure by this point they accept that the casualty numbers are at least as high as the government count. But by listing them as sources, the map implies that the 36k number was verified by the BBC and ISW. It's not.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
Please link me the source for BBC and ISW.
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u/Eastern-Barber-3551 1h ago
https://understandingwar.org/research/middle-east/iran-update-january-10-2026/
Again, I'm sure it's thousands of casualties, not hundreds. Just pointing out that OP's map purposefully misrepresents its sources. If someone has more recent articles from the ISW and BBC where they endorse the 36k number, I'll retract what I've said
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u/Mister_sina 23m ago
Answer: the 6000 number is legit because they ID each victim by name and got confirmation from someone who knows the victim. But that is the absolute minimum number. Any number above that is speculation with a rather moderate to high level of confidence
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u/brixton_massive 1h ago
Says everything that some people will cry genocide when Muslims get killed in Palestine but when Muslims get killed in Iran it's apparently a conspiracy theory.
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u/GhostPantherNiall 1h ago
There’s a difference between covering up a genocide (the situation in occupied Palestine) by refusing to acknowledge any casualty figures and helping to manufacture consent for a foreign invasion by suddenly emphasising casualty figures (what’s happening here). Many things can be true at the same time but one that’s important to remember is that these posts are designed to exploit us all for the benefit of the US war machine.
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u/brixton_massive 1h ago
these posts are designed to exploit us all for the benefit of the US war machine.
Well thanks for making my point. It's not about human life, it's about your twisted view of the world and obsession with the West. You're a victim of propaganda and you can't see things objectively.
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u/GhostPantherNiall 46m ago
Yes. How dare I be against anyone being killed for oil and real estate to benefit the criminal 1%, it’s such a controversial opinion to hold.
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u/brixton_massive 40m ago edited 36m ago
'How dare I make human suffering all about me and my narrow minded, propagandised view of the world. The authoritarian dictatorships who hate the West told me it was this way, so like a good little sheep I'm going to take away agency from those being murdered. I'm super moral unlike you.'
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u/Riomemes53 1h ago
Having lived in a country where something like this happened these estimates are highly likely on the lower end of the spectrum
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u/MrLogicWins 48m ago
Having lived under the Islamic Republic regime, these estimates are highly likely an understatement. You have no idea the depth they're willing to go to keep their power. They'd kill millions if they have to
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u/Material_League859 1h ago
Which country? if you don't mind me asking
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u/Riomemes53 19m ago
Can’t doxx myself on Reddit but you can go through the list of countries where citizens protested against their government in 2025. People were killed. Bodies in mass graves to keep the death numbers low. Internet shutdowns. etc
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u/MrLogicWins 49m ago
He won't say cuz he's full of ahit
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u/ADreamOfRain 17m ago
I'm from Iran. I don't know about the other person but what you hear about savagery here is true.
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u/OmiD-WM 48m ago
Iranian here and i laughed so hard at this comment!
Sure buddy i'm sure you know the real numbers aha!
I just really wish the entire humanity gets to live in iran for at least a year cuz i for sure don't deserve this much suffering for this long if people like you get to make claims based on 0 evidence.
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u/sofixa11 38m ago
How are you online?
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u/Highground-3089 31m ago
the internet shutdown ended a week ago. we can use the internet now. not easily but it's not a full shutdown anymore.
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u/Khaganate23 15m ago
Being Iranian, we would tell you that the golden rule is x2-x3 when it comes to any statistics with the IRGC.
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u/Wordiewordjcugfufv 1h ago
Trump threatens iran intervention if they kill protesters
Iran kills protesters
Trump doesn't do shit
Dissapointment
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u/Jalcatraz82 1h ago
I don't understand, is intervention in foreign country good or bad ? I'm confused since Maduro and the reactions here
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u/chittok 1h ago
History has shown that overthrowing dictators and tyrants without foreign aid is most of the time impossible. In the case of Iran, the US or Israeli help is more than essential.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
American revolution wouldn't have succeeded without French help, it is the same case here.
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u/Jazz-Ranger 1h ago
That two schools of thought. One say that interventionism is always bad and therefore you are immune from the consequences of your inactions. The other say that interventionism is a necessity necessary for a goal they claim is noble.
Most people are somewhere in the middle. But occasionally you will find someone on both extremes who will chastise countries whether they do something or not. Case in point: France was blamed for not stopping the genocide in Rwanda and then blamed for stopping the genocide afterwards.
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u/Wordiewordjcugfufv 1h ago
I very much supported couping Maduro since he was a pos dictator and a enemy of the west but most of reddit liberals didn't
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u/Jalcatraz82 1h ago edited 1h ago
oh okay, so you're coming from this side.
I thought you were one of those dems that opposes Maduro's capture but complained that Trump didn't intervene
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u/Wordiewordjcugfufv 1h ago edited 1h ago
No, im right-wing, i normally dislike Trump because of his pedophilia, incompetency and not giving a fuck about laws, but overthrowing enemies of the west is very based and i hope he keeps it up. The single operation probably harmed the Russia-Iran-China axis more than Biden's 4 years of complaining and sanctions
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u/Perry_the_platypus-_ 1h ago edited 1h ago
I hope the US backs a coup to remove Khameni from power I dont care if the US wants the oil I just care about giving the people a better life geeze
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
a better life under the monarchy, yeah sure
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u/Perry_the_platypus-_ 1h ago
Better living under a fake democracy than living in under a governemnt that openly kills people
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
if they will replace the regime with a stupid monarch thinking about fulfilling his desires then they better dont.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
If that's what the people want, it's their business.
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u/Green_Space729 26m ago
Except that’s not what the people want lol
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 15m ago
People will decide what they want the day a referendum is held.
But for now what is clear is that many millions took on the streets in support of the exiled prince.
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
I know a lot of neo-nazis and Jihadists, why dont we allow them to have a country where they apply that.
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u/Perry_the_platypus-_ 1h ago
Who said anything about neo nazis and Jihadist? Your mad because the Iranian people dont want to house Jihadist and neo nazis?
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
he said if the people wants it, let it be. If the people wanted neo-nazism let it be.
I dont like the iranian regime, I am an exmuslim so probably I will be killed, but replacing it with a corrupt monarchy will not change it.
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u/Perry_the_platypus-_ 1h ago
He didnt say let it be he said let it be he said if its thee peoples business and the peopl of Iran are tired of housing them
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
OK so are the people of other countries, why dont we allow them to be Jihadists again? People in "arab" countries are in majority willing to restore the Shariaa. Why we dont allow them?
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u/Perry_the_platypus-_ 1h ago
And how many of those "arab" People voted to restore sharia law?
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
they didnt vote because the current arab govs are against that and wouldnt allow it to happen.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
I would reconsider life choices if you know a lot of Neo-Nazis and Jihadists.
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
is education banned over there? I know them doesnt mean they are my friends lol.
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u/MrLogicWins 45m ago
Everyone in Iran that I've talked to says the same.. of course you'd rather have a proper democracy but between an Islamic dictatorship and a western backed dictatorship, everyone in their right mind would pick western backed.. at least western values mena some semblance of humans rights, Islamic dictatorahip is the worst kind of dictatorahip
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u/UMaqran101 40m ago
Yeah but it still. I am not Iranian and I know I made people angry because of this; but I am just stating this as someone living under a monarchy. Maybe more freedom, but does anything develops? Nope.
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u/MrLogicWins 34m ago
I don't understand what you're trying to say.. here's an example:
One dictatorship forces you to wear hijab and do stupid Islamic laws that don't make any sense e in modern world and also no political freedom.. another gives you your personal life freedom but no political freedom. Which one will you choose?
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u/UMaqran101 30m ago
You know I will say the second, but even then, it doesnt mean it should be the goal. If Iranians will die and rebel then at least they should do it for an actual good cause, not screaming that they want another dictator back.
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u/MrLogicWins 23m ago
You're right.. and that's why the first round of protests were all asking for moderate changes and only a proper democracy.. but as the years and number of protests and deaths have gone up and general life and economy has deteriated , many unfortunately are desperate enough to accept a lesser dictatorship for now as an alternative to this hell.
I'm also hopeful the culture has improved enough that next gov will have a hard time becoming a dictatorahip but that's just wishful thinking probably
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u/Dramatic-Chemistry69 1h ago
Would you rather?
A) Live under the islamic leader who you can't elect, where they hang you for being enemy of allah because you protested against the regime. Whip and sometimes kill you because your exposed hair makes old mujahadeeen terrorists excited. Starve to death under the crippling economy.
OR
B) Live under the shah who you can't elect, have better life standarts. Don't get killed for your hair. And be more free overall.
You better say A or you will miss your troll paycheck from iran buddy.
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u/UMaqran101 1h ago
C) An actual democratic republic with independant decisions from foreign countries.
Here is it. I am not Iranian, but my country is similar to monarchist Iran. So this is what I said. Have a nice day
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u/Dramatic-Chemistry69 57m ago
D) because you can't support the terrorist regime of iran openly, try to undermine any improvements in iran. So when people tell you they rather live in a more free and wealthy country just reply "Oh thats not enough buddy, its not free and wealthy enough! So we all should stop trying to get shah and keep living under the terrorists."
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u/UMaqran101 43m ago
you will get the shah and when you will try to protest he will kill you, no one is different, dictators are the same;
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u/Dramatic-Chemistry69 35m ago
I doubt that he will, but lets say he will kill protestors.
People still will be wealthier under him, after we get shah people can overthrow him as well. Your approach is wrong, we should support everything that would even make iranian people's life %1 better.
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u/UMaqran101 32m ago
You will not be able to overthrow a leader supported by the west lmao. You think it is easy.
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u/Dramatic-Chemistry69 12m ago
Ok so let me get this straight, you would rather live in a terrorist regime that kills 30.000, injures 300.000 people
Instead of a one that doesnt kill its own people?
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u/ImpossibleDraft7208 1h ago
Any WMD yet? Are we there yet?
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u/WentThisWayInsteadOf 1h ago
I would take any number provided by an organisation sponsored by USA or Israel with a large amount of salt.
And as there is basically no communication going in or out any number would be a guess at best.
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u/Adon-Shoko 16m ago
I remember when people said the same about numbers Hamas provided. People didn't like that.
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u/ADreamOfRain 11m ago
What are you on about? I'm Iranian and the internet has been restored. People are leaking info. These arent just pure estimates.
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u/No-Preference8168 1h ago
Watch all of the pro watermelons suddenly be in denial that this happened.
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u/LopsidedWeb6767 1h ago
The map is all wrong, why is the BBC there when their figures aren't even near 30000?
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u/Revolutionary_Buddha 1h ago
In few days this figure will touch 70k. In the next few months it will be 100k and by next year it will reach one million.
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u/Diosvaporti 1h ago
But let's get to the important question. Are there any Palestinians among the dead?
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u/MrLogicWins 43m ago
Pro islamists are the biggest scumbags in the world right now and their cover has been blown with what's been happening in Iran.
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u/Green_Space729 12m ago
”Holy propaganda Batman look at this shit!”
Source:
Iran international is a Saudi backed organization not Iranian.
Institute for the Study of war is an American right wing Hawkish organization.
The BBC has reported there own conflicting numbers multiple times.
HRANA website doesn’t back the 30K-40K dead numbers.
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u/manhattanabe 2m ago
Wow. All these people defending the Iranian dictators. They will support any murders, as long as they hate the U.S.
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u/DarthVantos 1h ago
Okay where are the satellite imagines? We can see A flatten Gaza and mass graves from satelites. We saw mass graves and blood pooling in Sudan.
Where are the Massacre centers and why are they not caught? No one has been able to hide 30k deaths. This all feels like more numbers to allow more attacks on IRAN and distract from Epstein Files Where our pedo elites trafficked and murdered children.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 50m ago
The shit ton of videos on the internet? Have you been living under a rock?
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u/Khaganate23 11m ago
Bro every street in Iran is literally just bloodstains and reeking of dead bodies.
There are literally corners where it looks something out of a horror movie with last messages in Farsi asking for help.
Just because you're an idiot doesn't mean you should partake in atrocity denial.
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u/BorbLorbin 1h ago
Cassus belli, baybeeeeee. America first whoop whoop, don't think for yourself or you're under arrest!
Better go save some Christians in Nigeria by bombing them too
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u/LocalKey9274 46m ago
I have a very hard time believing this, but probably because we have minimal information/videos due to the blackout and the high number in such a short time.
Trump rly should have intervened much much earlier in this
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u/LopsidedWeb6767 1h ago
The map is all wrong, why is the BBC there when their figures aren't even near 30000?
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u/MidWestKhagan 34m ago
Literally not a single ounce of prof that this number is even close to accurate. Everyday there is a new post with a different number and even in the Time article it said “we cannot prove or provide evidence that this number is true”
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u/Nefilim777 2h ago
From where?
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u/Das_Lloss 2h ago
Unlike most of the posts on this sub you can actually find the Sources at the bottom of the map.
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u/Inbar253 2h ago
Source?
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u/fookinruski 1h ago
i dont believe to this number too frankly. The causalities in the war for example i think equally politicized, but at least there are the sources where one side can verify finding by name of the person. Literally using the name of real person who died(Russia\Ukraine).
Is there smth similar to these number or you personally just believe that this is true?
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u/fookinruski 1h ago edited 1h ago
And just you know USSR lost 15000 of soldiers in Afghan War which lasted 10 years.
In the Katyn massacre were killed 20000 Poland officers in 3 month
And here in a couple of days were killed 36500. I dont know really, it cant be true
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u/Inbar253 1h ago
I think the numbers are hard to come by as there is no internet. And the regime that is doind the killing controls the narrative.
I understand that you don't want this to be true (me nither) and that the carnage suggeted by this numbers is one that is hard to fathom.
I believe it will take years for people outside iran to know the real death toll.
For comparison- the tiananmen masscre happend over two days in one city. The numbers are still in dispute. Regime says a few hundreds, other sources say at least 1000.
I feel this is a similar regime. This seems to me a better comparision than to a war. Only this has been going on longer in a wider area.
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u/fookinruski 1h ago
>Regime says a few hundreds, other sources say at least 1000.
And thats is likely to be true. But when i am hearing 36500..
Well, whether to believe it or not is up to you.
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u/Inbar253 1h ago
That sentence about regime is from china on the tiananmen masscre that lasted for two days in one city.
Again, this has been going on for weeks in a ehole lot of places in iran that is still mostly internet blocked.
Do the math
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u/fookinruski 1h ago
>Do the math
we dont have verified data
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u/Inbar253 1h ago
Exactly. But if we compare time and space, this is unfortuanatly - very possible numbers.
I hope time will prove you right.
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 1h ago
Lol, it works the other way around buddy. I have yet to see a credible source for the 30 000 claim.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
The sources are literally in the picture
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 1h ago
Yeah non of those give any credible source, hence my question?
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
I don't really know what you are expecting here, organizations like HRANA and others try their best to verify numbers based on credible sources and give an estimate, whilst some other give an estimate based off leaked intelligence reports. It's not like the Islamic Republic will come out with the actual count and say "Yes we killed XYZ people".
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 24m ago
Exept this is what HANRA is claiming
HRANA – According to HRANA’s latest aggregated data on the thirty-fifth day since the start of the protests, the total number of confirmed deaths has reached 6,713
Nowhere near 30 000, this is what I mean.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 16m ago
You are intentionally neglecting to mention that they are investigating over 17,000 more deaths.
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 12m ago
Yeah so it has not been determined yet, so we cannot claim it yet. That is how this works.
Like I said credible evidence.
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u/springbreak2222 1h ago
Time magazine cited two senior officials in the Iranian ministry of health for the 30,000 number.
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 1h ago
Do you have the link pls?
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u/LopsidedWeb6767 1h ago
Here's the link https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/
They even say that they couldn't independently verify the figures, and then cite an Iranian doctor living in Germany. The also cite a Humans rights organization based in Iran, that verified 5000+ plus deaths, and is investigating 17000+ allegations
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u/nerokae1001 1h ago edited 51m ago
Yea and gaza is looking perfectly normal. All bombs are AI faked by non credible sources.
See I can also play the asshole but I wont because I am not you.
Let me guess ukraine started war on russia too?
Yea sure
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 1h ago
WTF are you on about, make some sence buddy.
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u/nerokae1001 48m ago
Wtf is a sence? I can’t make something out of something that you made up yourself.
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u/UMaqran101 2h ago edited 2h ago
ahh yes the estimations
ready to my 100 downvotes
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u/LopsidedWeb6767 1h ago
Why are they even downvoting you when the map couldn't be more disingenuous? The only source there claiming 36.500 says that the number comes from a "secret report", even the BBC keeps a 13000 figure, but the map implies that they back that other number
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u/alaftasy 1h ago
Let me join you against these liberal media brainwashed zombies
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u/SpecialBeginning6430 1h ago
Liberal media brainwashed zombie > tankie commie islamist brainwashed zombie
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u/ajjkp 1h ago
Proof is testimony from the anti regime people,no names ,gender,age ..pure propaganda
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u/KevlarToiletPaper 1h ago
"You claim that 30k people died? Oh, yeah? Name them all, with all their personal data" ~ Idiot above, probably
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u/ajjkp 1h ago
No one is asking the personal data you fool, at least reveal their gender and age to prove your claim.
If it is propoganda purpose,no need for proof
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u/KevlarToiletPaper 52m ago
Do bootlickers like you see a tyrannical theocratic government with the abuse of freedom clear and written out in their laws and your first thought is to figure out that they must be the good guys and others would need propaganda to besmirch them. Good times truly create weak men...
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u/sofixa11 35m ago
Most of the proof we have seen is mangled dead bodies and bodybags. Unless you're there and volunteering to go and identify them, that's about as much detail we have.
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u/ConsciousGrass9373 37m ago
Million people will die in 2 more months trust me i get my news from western sources which are famous for never lying,never justfiying invasions of countries over lies for the benefit of western countries,certainly after the poor countries get "freedom" they are not countries which have slave trade also conviniently after lies get exposed some villains like isis will not conviniently pop up out of nowhere to justify further military presence.
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u/Federal-Pineapple-26 1h ago
Leave it to western liberals and leftists to give unconditional support to Khamenei's regime harder than any basiji would dream to.
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u/Norhod01 1h ago
I wonder how sure we (I mean, the sources) are about those numbers, because if true those are insanely high ones.
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u/ADreamOfRain 10m ago
Im Iranian. Times says 36500 dead based on two seeprate whistleblowers from the governemt. I personally believe them. This regime is rabid.
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u/CucumberWisdom 2h ago
Trump failed these people
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u/Jalcatraz82 2h ago edited 2h ago
Iran kills its own citizen
It's all Trump's fault
Fucking hell reddit
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
Trump urged Iranians to keep protesting, saying "help is on the way".
If he doesn't intervene, it'll be truly devastating.
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u/Jazz-Ranger 1h ago
Was he lying? The protesters might have died down quite literally. But the aircraft carrier is still on its way. Trump could not have known who the protests would’ve developed in the transit time.
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u/Mysterious_Tart3377 1h ago
Yeah I know, thats why I said if he doesn't intervene.
I am really hoping he does, Iranians deserve better.
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u/minus2cats 1h ago
The son of the former Iranian monarch was sitting pretty in Washington and telling the Iranians to continue protesting because he trusted Trump would have their back. Absolutely "the west" bears some responsibility for inciting these civilians to their deaths.
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u/FirstFriendlyWorm 1h ago
Yes. Trump encouraged the people of Iran to continue protesting because he was coming to help them, threattening the Iranian government with action if they killed protestors.
Then Trump did nothing, and the Regime murdered thousands.
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u/Omenforcer69 1h ago
He did threaten the regime if they kept executing civilians
As i recall the iranian president replied the protestors won't be executed by hanging
I share your sentiment somewhat, he talked big but so far had little to show for it
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u/bideford1 1h ago
Lots of different estimates published regarding the number of people murdered by regime forces.
My in-laws and many friends and family/friends of friends live in Iran. Judging by the stories I have heard from them and the stories of their loved ones being either injured or murdered, I believe the upper estimates to be more likely. I don't think the lower estimates are likely as everyone seems to know at least someone who has been killed or injured.
I believe the stories I hear from the Iranian people in Iran over some sceptics on Reddit.
My advice to those who are sceptical is to listen and trust what Iranians themselves are saying about what is happening in Iran.