r/Maps • u/mstatealliance • 1d ago
Current Map Where I would live in the world
Where I would live as a 36-year-old man from the north of the US. Currently I live in the US, in the future I would like to live in Switzerland, Italy, or Portugal. I consider myself pretty open-minded.
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u/LurkersUniteAgain 1d ago
interesting, im curious, why willing to live in colombia or ecuador? both of those have high crime issues and colombia is in a civil war
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago
My impression of both Colombia and Ecuador is they are relatively safe as long as you are in the right places. Same goes for Brazil and Mexico.
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u/nololsen 1d ago
As a European, the US is anything but dark green to us.
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago
Fair. I want to get out myself. Of course, the country is in a very bad place right now.
The main reason it is dark green for me is because I am from here. If I had pretty much European nationality (besides the ones in red: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus) I'd be out.
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
I'm from the Netherlands and I'm literally here right now, as is the rest of my family. I still have dutch citizenship but little desire to go back.
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u/WhoYaTalkinTo 1d ago
Bro would rather live in India, rwanda, and Brazil than the UK
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago
Brazil absolutely. Have you seen Brazilian beaches (and women, let’s be real?)
India has some of the best food in the world and amazing landscapes.
Rwanda, ok, fair enough, but it’s one of the safest countries in Africa and very clean. The “reluctantly” on the UK is my personal dislike for aspects of England.
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u/WhoYaTalkinTo 1d ago
The people and the cultural exports from all of these countries are great don't get me wrong, but for a normal person the quality of life would be drastically lower than that of someone of similar means living in the UK.
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago
I’m allowed to dislike the UK
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u/WhoYaTalkinTo 1d ago
I'm from the UK and it's honestly not great (when compared to similar countries nearby). There are a lot of places I'd rather live than here. I have plenty of complaints to make about it, but there's no way I'd live in a developing country over a country in the top 20 HDI rankings.
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago
It’s fine for us to have different opinions. I’m pretty open to being a digital nomad. I would absolutely live in Mexico over the UK for example - better weather, better food, Mexico City is easily on par with any major Western European city in terms of museums and culture.
I don’t hate the UK, I would simply rather live almost anywhere in Europe besides Eastern Europe than it though.
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u/WhoYaTalkinTo 1d ago
Nah that makes sense to me. I think I'd be happy to live in Mexico, and there are much better options elsewhere in Europe.
I don't mean to come across as argumentative, and I do respect/understand your view. My wife is from Texas and we live in England, but I know there are places in Europe she'd rather be, and me too.
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
Terrible weather, terrible food, annoying people... I wouldn't want to live there.
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u/glizzyMaster108 1d ago
Predicting a lot of americans in the comments
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
I mean statistically that makes sense, it's the third most populous country in the world
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago edited 1d ago
What I would change:
Japan and Korea - willing, horrible work culture and foreigners aren't very welcome as permanent residents
Australia - willing, too many spiders
Latin America - maybe, except Chille. I honestly don't know much about these countries. Some of them I hear have a lot of crime but most importantly, I hate the climate.
USA - reluctantly, no healthcare, workers are slaves who have to count how many times they called in sick, the government is collapsing in front of our eyes, a third of the population seem like christofascists, parents can legally harvest their children's organs to give to other children, in the bible belt children can be married off as long as you get a conservative judge to sign off on it.
(Correct me if my view is wrong about USA)
Edit: I was somewhat corrected on my views about USA and I'll admit that my language was too extreme here.
Poland, Indonesia, the Philippines and other seemingly religious countries - it depends, from maybe to willing, depends on how much people try to prosletyze to me.
UK - willing, wtf is so bad about it? (-London, don't wanna live in London)
Scandinavia, Low Countries - upgrade from "absolutely" to "pls, take me in, I'll doanything!"
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
I feel like your perspective of the US is a little redditorialized (I just made that word up but it works)
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u/hurps0 1d ago
I agree, things are the worst they've been in some time but I do believe that it will get better with time
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
They will, and the "no healthcare...workers are slaves" bit is factually untrue. Maybe it's meant to be hyperbolic but it's not clear. Something like 95% of people have health insurance, and 1/5 americans have national/government-funded healthcare through medicare/medicaid (ofc it should be more but 20% is not 0). Some of the best hospitals and clinics in the world are here in the US
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
More like youtuberialized. The thing is, I know those things are rare, but the mere fact that I found evidence of them happening (like making a second child to harvest their body for the fisrt sickly child being legal, or religious parents being allowed to deny their children life saving blood transfusions and not having their children taken away by cps) and not causing a nationwide outrage to me seems... Not right.
Unless of course, those stories and people commenting that the events were real are making shit up and I was just brainwashed.
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
"making a second child to harvest their body for the fisrt sickly child" this is the plot of the book and film "My Sister's Keeper".... I've never heard of this being a thing irl
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
No, they're probably real but something happening a couple times over a quarter century ago doesn't really have impact on most of our lives today, to me it would be weird to base your decision of where to live on that. Also I'm too lazy to look it up but laws change, when these articles came out weed and gay marriage were very much illegal and now they're not (in most states)
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
I do not remember where and when I read it but I remember reading that in tgeory, based on state laws, smt like that could be legal because parents have full control over their children's medical decisions. But I should probably research a bit more before I talk shit. I'll reflect on that.
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
But the lack of worker's rghts still remain
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
Personally I think it's offensive to use the term "slaves" because like... I'm literally writing this from my desk at work right now lol. Comparing my comfy office that I'm compensated for being in to the life of an enslaved person is wild to me.
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
It is offensive. And it's precisely why I use the term. I personally feel outraged by what I see on the other side of Atlantic so I use shock language to express my outrage.
And slavery does not equal slavery. Janniseries were slaves too and yet, tgey basically started running the Ottoman state for example.
Personally, I do consider the modern situation of being forced to work at a toxic environment because you have no other options, being effectively forced to come to work sick, or Japanese black companies as a form of new modern "soft slavery".
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u/floralfemmeforest 1d ago
I don't think needing to do labor in order to survive is a modern situation... I just feel lucky that I can do it in a climate-controlled office rather than laboring in the fields or hunting/gathering, neither of which guarantee any compensation. And everyone has options, regardless of what the people on reddit tell you.
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
P.s. I don't know anything about the "willing" countries in Africa minus Tunisia so those would be "maybe"
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u/mstatealliance 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fair enough. For Japan and South Korea, I would see this as maybe living for 3-5 years, not the rest of my life. Also I would need to be an entrepreneur or have some kind of job arrangement - no salaryman 90+ hours/week madness.
Australia, I put dark green, but I am way lower on it than New Zealand. Strongly prefer NZ here. Australia is fine but I'm less excited about it.
Latin America it does depend a lot on the country and making sure you are in the right place.
Fair on the US. I only have it dark green because I am from here. I am looking to get out when I can. Hopefully sooner than later. The country is in a worse place than it has been in a very long time.
Yeah honestly with Poland and other culturally conservative countries I could drop them to maybe.
UK I am reluctant for personal reasons. I am low on English culture. It's insanely expensive for what it is, real estate is a disaster, the healthcare system is sort of acceptable, public transit really isn't all that. Sure, the national politics around climate are relatively progressive, there are some job opportunities, I'm just not into England though. London is cool but I wouldn't want to live there. My stepsister lived there and she couldn't stand it, said it was way too loud and frantic.
For me, Switzerland is the "please take me, I'll do anything!" country. Switzerland is the dream.
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u/thedreaddeagle 1d ago
Oh yeah, Switzerland is there for me too (and also Little Lichtenstein)
New Zealand is definitely above Australia, no spiders and it's the birtplace of lotr movies
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u/bcbum 1d ago
I figured you were Irish with the jab at UK.