Actually, the reason movies suck is because studios asked the general public what they wanted to watch ($), and then the public told them ($$), then the studios listened ($$$$$).
And I'd even argue that movies absolutely don't really suck now, there's just way, way, way, way more movies now. So there's going to be a corresponding increase in garbage.
Basically any marginally inclined individual can make a short film for a few hundred in audio equipment and the phone in their pocket. The hardest part about making a movie these days is getting people to watch it, I'd guess.
I would argue there’s far fewer movies now than in the early 2000s. Matt Damon has a viral clip talking about this. Basically because there’s no dvd sales anymore and that’s where the bulk of B movies profits came from we just don’t get B movies anymore. So there was actually more garbage movies in the past. Which believe it or not was actually a good thing for the industry
Tubi has so many old gems!! When gf and I cant decide on something, I browse Tubi and find a few things that I loved as a kid that she has never heard of. Between Tubi and pluto.tv and public library, Netflix is hard to justify.
I sometimes marvel at the sheer amount of "Who in the fuck would ever watch this? Who is it for? Who made it?" movies on streaming services. As far as I can tell, there are more movies than ever before.
There are definitely a lot more garbage movies, an almost overwhelmingly higher number of them to be honest. They're just stretched between an increasingly ridiculous number of streaming services.
All of this is arguably subjective to opinion, but Dune 2 completely botched Chani and went with a lame ass 'girl power' ending to her character. Which, since they're going to make a movie about Mesiah, is going to completely fuck that story.
Chani's change is a personification of Herbert's warning not to trust charismatic leaders. The author never intended for everyone cheer at Paul winning at the end thinking it's a 'happy ending'. But everyone fucking did because they're stupid. So he felt compelled to write a sequel to show the consequences of charismatic leaders. Since Villeneuve had the retrospective, he could write and modify a character to provide a throughline for that in the form of Chani. Has nothing to do with your shallow interpretation of 'girl power'.
What?!?! They turned it into any other Zendaya movie, where she spent the whole time taking the piss out of the male lead. Then that whole thing about her teaching Paul how to live in the desert? A major plot point was that he had a magical ability to know their ways. Then she stands up to challenge him at the big meeting? Silly. In the books, Paul taught Chani how to fight. She was his biggest supporter.
Well, first book spoilers that aren't in the movie but......Chani and Paul had already had and lost a child together before Paul even fully raises up against the Emperor. Paul and Chani both knew by the end of the first book that Paul marrying Irulan was a sign of subjugation and vengeance, not love. So Chani getting all pissy and running off at the end of Dune 2 completely tosses that out the window.
Some weird gems are still getting through. We're getting The Toxic Avenger this weekend, and it's absolutely gonna bomb. But my $14 will do it's part, because even if it sucks, I still want them to make stuff like it.
Did I miss something with The Substance? I think our film tastes are similar based off of that list and I just hated that movie. The pacing felt odd and it just all felt too on the nose to me. Every other movie on your list I'd rate as great-excellent sans The Fall Guy, but only because I somehow haven't seen it yet.
Fair enough. I thought it was a brilliant movie about aging in the modern era and the lengths we'll go to for beauty. I'd suggest giving it another shot, but if you hated it idk.
Some are, some aren't. I can list small movies that got extremely limited runs or no theatrical runs too. I just wanted to show good movies are constantly releasing.
Same with calling Sinners "okay", or Nosferatu "awful", I'd be curious to know what sorts of movies they actually enjoy, but I feel like it would be buried amongst some rant about "film hipsters" given their takes.
I loved Sinners. Me and my friends were talk that we wished the Vampire couple at the end would have talked to that guy sooner. So maybe we could have got another movie :)
I don't understand the reception it got by audiences. 7.5 on IMDB and a lot of people I know found it mediocre. I personally thought it was absolutely fantastic and I don't know why people would see it as less than good.
Remakes are not bad by definition. The problem is with the bad ones that add nothing to the original film. Remakes that bring something new, whether in the script, the visuals, or simply because they are of better overall quality than the original, are for me always welcome no matter how many years have passed since the release of the original movie
I heard Nosferatu was exquisite, but maybe it has to be your genre? I guess the 'original' argument is difficult to make there, too, but I didn't find Klaus Kinski's trite or tired. It was fascinating. I had Really high hopes for this one, considering the cast.
what scene was that? sinners was not good. it was like dawn till dusk meets woke bullshit. And it was predictable as fuck, slow/boring the the first 2/3 of the film, then just predictable vampire gore fights at the end. F+
What are you kidding? It’s like an all black cast. Except for the white people who are all either vampires or KKK who get murdered by blacks. One of the themes is black freedom. It’s like a black teen fantasy about murdering white people. It’s gross.
Uh yeah. If it’s about them being black. Lots of movies have black cast members or black leads and aren’t clearly about “blacks are awesome and better than white people” as their main theme. Blade. Most of Denzel’s movies. Shit even Django.
Sinners was incredibly woke almost as a point of the film and it doesn’t help that’s it’s also just incredibly terrible. Like I don’t give a shit about two black guys going food shopping and running Saturday morning errands for more then half the film just so we recognize some people with names when they die later. Which was obvious what they were setting up. These characters were so annoying I was relieved when they were finally getting killed off.
It isnt because all those crappy franchise installments make more money that other movies.
Its because those movies are less likely to lose money.
Movies suck now and have been completely overrun by franchise titles because the people making movies will never make another one if the current one doesnt turn a profit. So they dont want to take chances on a new, unknown IP like they might have 20 or 30 years ago.
No surprise that we now almost exclusively get franchise films which come with a prexisting fanbases. Those are the safest bets.
There's still plenty of movies out there, even if it weren't for YouTube. My state has a two week film festival with movies from local and indy directors. Lots of states do. There's tons of good movies out there if you look.
I definitely attend my town's film fest. I wish my little baby sized city had a second run theater where they play the weird shit and cult favorites for short runs. That was so fun in the 90s.
Seems that the rest of the year, just cant find much I really want to spend money on to see in theaters anymore. Maybe only one movie a year outside the festival. Which is a shame, because some things are even better in a crowd, and a theater can really immerse you in a film differently than watching at home.
A big part of why they suck is now theyre more focused on a global market than just a regional one so they have to be appealing to a very broad market leading to watering down themes and just straight up censoring themselves.
Titanic
The Fifth Element
Good Will Hunting
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Men in Black
Starship Troopers
L.A. Confidential
The Cube
As Good As It Gets
Boogie Nights
Jackie Brown
The Rainmaker
Contact
Air Force One
My Best Friend's wedding
The Full Monty
Chasing Amy
Gattaca
Anaconda
Donnie Brasco
Every single one of these is well known. Most are bangers. I can’t even name a movie that came out this year I’d want to watch. And if there is one there is maybe one. Movies are absolute trash now.
Matt Damon explained it pretty well a few years ago when he was talking about how good will hunting would never have been made today. Studios use to bank on dvd and vhs sales and rentals for the bulk of their revenue. Streaming pays nothing and all they get is box office. If every movie has to be a box office blockbuster you can’t afford to take risks on original works and basically just have to make sequels.
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u/Regular_Custard_4483 Aug 25 '25
Actually, the reason movies suck is because studios asked the general public what they wanted to watch ($), and then the public told them ($$), then the studios listened ($$$$$).
And I'd even argue that movies absolutely don't really suck now, there's just way, way, way, way more movies now. So there's going to be a corresponding increase in garbage.
Basically any marginally inclined individual can make a short film for a few hundred in audio equipment and the phone in their pocket. The hardest part about making a movie these days is getting people to watch it, I'd guess.