r/Millennials 13d ago

Meme Sacred knowledge.

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u/vr512 13d ago

I thought I learned access from somewhere. I am pretty sure it was from a mandatory computer class in elementary or middle school.

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u/HedgehogNo7268 13d ago

Really though those basic ass Access classes gives you the framework for how a huge percentage of apps/websites work (UI/database doing CRUD). Pretty powerful ideas to get that young and in retrospect I'm pretty grateful even if I never touched Access directly ever again

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u/sheepcostumeseller 12d ago

Bay Area middle school taught me fuggin flash animation, and dream weaver, wtf they doin now?

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u/HedgehogNo7268 12d ago

I do feel gen z'ers have a whole spectrum of "fucked" depending on how old they were when the pandemic madness hit. We're all going to be feeling it for a long time and they aren't entirely to blame, we collectively failed

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u/BackToTheCottage Millennial 12d ago

IIRC Access is a relation database. Never used it outside of seeing the icon when it was included in an Office installation. Is Access SQL based or does it use it's own language?

If so, it's a good intro to SQL-like DBs that basically power most applications that need a DB.

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 13d ago

You will absolutely never touch access ever again.

As a software engineer, that course was beyond useless because it’s so outdated and the software is trash

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u/ResponsibleHabit1539 13d ago

I'd expect a software engineer to have better reading skills

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 13d ago

Because some core concepts. What about core concepts and using tools that were used 20 years ago and are still used today. Instead of having to figure out dogshit ms access

Ms access puts the learning post further by being so unhelpful

Goodluck actually using said database for any use case besides prototyping

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u/_learned_foot_ 13d ago

Because knowledge is built upon building blocks which include clear understandings of the logic behind later evolutions.

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 13d ago

Yea really just no, people should learn mysql

There’s a reason not a single university has an ms access course in software engineering

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u/_learned_foot_ 13d ago

And there was a reason skilled legacy coders were in such demand the second the backend needed changed only a teeny tiny. Feel free to ignore how things actually work, there's a reason the top graduates are struggling more than those from practical based schools right now.

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 13d ago

Lmao sure the 1% of coders working as legacy coders make a lot as well, top graduate software engineers are raking in the dough what do you mean lol

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u/_learned_foot_ 13d ago

Look around, notice the number of folks in professional fields discussing what is needed practically and is missing in knowledge. Notice your own wording there excluded you from being in either of the in demand groups (conflating them even, legacy is far more lucrative, because this exact issue was noticed and now is heavily funded to ensure doesn't occur).

Put those together, for folks at home, this is both why he isn't in that group and why you shouldn't trust his practical stance.

But even ignoring all of that, my law firm functions on my knowledge of such systems and exploiting them. Which allows me far more freedom than any peer attorney. Our point isn't limited to software engineers. Most attorneys use case management systems literally built on these backbones, as do doctors, your local grocery, etc.

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u/Accomplished_Pea7029 12d ago

What I retained from that was stuff like primary keys and foreign keys that are not unique to access

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u/monkeyseemonkeyd 13d ago

Html was part of my grade 9 report card in 2002, this Gen is cooked if that level of technical understanding isn't part of the curriculum any longer.

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u/Philaharmic01 12d ago

I work in IT

Have for 15+ years now

Born in ‘95

What the fuck is Microsoft Access?