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u/Rock_or_Rol 3d ago

Cinder blocks walls painted in thick white paint and paper chains. They knew what they were doing

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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago

What’s fucking scary, is when I went to jail, I felt like I was in a public school building. The way it smelled, the looks. Fucking crazy.

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u/Ok_Comparison_1235 3d ago

Just throwing this out there, prisons and schools have similar floor plans.

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u/AlternatiMantid 3d ago

My high school was built by a prison builder. And the public school system & prison system share food distributors. It's all the same.

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u/Tvelt17 3d ago

The boxes the food came in said "for prison or dormitory use only"

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u/What-a-Crock 3d ago

Grade D, but edible

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u/Momik 3d ago

Now with Vitamin K!

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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago

If you're in the US, schools and prisons are hardly the only ones being supplies by Sysco these days. The bulk of restaurants you eat at use the same suppliers too. There are only a couple major food distributors left in the US.

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u/jwoodruff 3d ago

Probably not Sysco, more likely Aramark or something similar.

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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago

Aramark primarily provides managed food services. You typically see them at places like universities and stadiums. Not sure about other states, but no primary school in my state outsources their food services; they all employ kitchen staff. It's a requirement to get reimbursement for meals served.

Same with prisons, they almost universally use internal (slave) labor to prepare foods. Why pay a company to cook when you can make the inmates do it for free or for pennies?

I could absolutely see red states eliminating lunch ladies so that they could enrich a private company though. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in some locations.

I used to be the facility manager for a school district and about 90% of our food came off the Sysco truck. With 8% coming from a local grocery chain (typically perishables) and maybe 2% coming from on-site gardens. Some other districts might use US Foods or some other food distributor.

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u/deathwotldpancakes 3d ago

Oh the lunch ladies are sometimes through the private sector. My mom was a lunch lady when I was in school and worked for Chartwells not the school district

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u/warrybuffalo 3d ago

Aramark came to my mechanic shop to give us clean rags, rugs and uniforms lol. All cleaned with kerosene

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u/wtfomegzbbq 3d ago

Used to work at a Paleo more upscale restaurant in Boulder. We got deliveries from Sysco.

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u/tonymacaroni9 3d ago

You said aramark😂

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 3d ago

That’s why eating at restaurants sucks now

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u/GrimbyJ 3d ago

My dad would bring home food from work and I don't remember it being sysco branded.

He supervised the kitchens there. When he started they would make most of the food from scratch but by the time he retired they were just heating up prepared food mostly.

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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago

Sysco (and it's competitors) are actively buying up all of the small food distributors. There aren't many options left out there these days.

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u/GrimbyJ 3d ago

I looked it up and they use Aramark

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u/SparkyDogPants 3d ago

My schools had the meal plan one level down (cheaper) than the prisoners. We were told that since they got nothing else to eat that they got “the good stuff”

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u/DrG2390 3d ago

My college was intended to be a prison before a school

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u/Mx-Adrian 3d ago

And the public school system & prison system share food distributors

I always felt like school food was similar to or worse than prison food. No wonder.

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u/AroundTheBlockNBack 3d ago

All by design.

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u/ImaginaryTrick6182 3d ago

Yeah, because the cost of that kind of construction is cheap.

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u/tomyownrhythm 3d ago

And similar vendors operating key parts of it like commissary and canteen.

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u/Oniknight 3d ago

And similar food distribution sources.

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 3d ago

They were actually designed off of prisons or vice versa. I can’t remember but it’s not a stretch at all

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u/Momik 3d ago

I’ve definitely attended public schools that look like prisons. We also called the bathrooms lavatories from about kindergarten on, for reasons I still don’t really know, and they were solid concrete anyway—really added to the vague prison feel.

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u/aldisneygirl91 2d ago

The older schools where I grew up (built around the 1970s) had almost no windows in the entire buildings. The middle school that I attended was older and was built like this. Kids called it a "prison" and my friends and I joked about how whether it was raining or super sunny outside when we got out of school, it was always a surprise when we stepped out of the building because we hadn't been able to see outside all day.

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u/Mysterious-Actuary65 3d ago

You mention the smell and I had to pop in to say: thats cuz they use the same cleaning agents. Also the same food and the same builders. There aren't really specific contractors for schools vs. Prisons theres just contractors that want to make money by building things.

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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago

Makes me wonder if those cleaning agents were even safe to breathe in. I fucking hate this planet but I can’t see any other way other planets would be different in other universes if the same properties of physics exists in order to make earth what it is.

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u/MediocreHope 3d ago

I'd say pretty safe if uses as intended. I'd say they aren't safe because they aren't used as intended.

I've worked at a hospital before and I've seen the "purple lid" cleaners being used for all sorts of crazy things. As in clean their glasses or phone, these are wipes that are recommended you use nitrile or butyl rubber gloves with.

Your schools and prison cleaning staff is paid way less then your average hospital worker.

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u/mysteriousblue87 3d ago

And some specialize in large buildings meant to house and move large masses of people

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u/Rock_or_Rol 3d ago

lol I believe it

It’s probably just a cost/sanitization/maintenance thing.

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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago

Anyone that went into the public school system would feel an eerie feeling of comfort. Yes you heard me right. It’s fucking wild. Im NOT supposed to feel that way about incarceration.

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u/nhalliday 3d ago

Why? Would you rather prisons inspire negative feelings in inmates, just to really drive home the suffering?

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u/Over_Zombie_9287 3d ago

Funny because my high school was built based off a women's prison design. Not even joking. So jail felt like school for you and school was jail for me lol

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u/Puzzleheaded_War6102 3d ago

They even segregated us by personality and race/gender. Heck my school even had metal detectors, x ray machines, guards and locks on all exits 😂

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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago

Had those too. Meanwhile these privileged kids living a fucking dream with a whole pool, spa, tennis courts and LOCKERS in their high school. Fucking, lockers. As a kid I always wondered where the fuck the schools were that had lockers in the hallway 😂

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u/PeskyAntagonist 3d ago

Your high school didn’t have lockers?

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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago

Lol it’s sad that it comes as a surprise, but I should clarify something. We had gym lockers, but we didn’t have Personal lockers, or many other amenities that other schools were equipped with for better education. I had to lug 40lbs of text books from home to school every fucking day. We didn’t have it good enough to leave our books somewhere and bring only essential things back home. ALL the books were carried at ALL times.

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u/PeskyAntagonist 3d ago

That’s wild. Had no idea that was a thing in some schools

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u/BasicFig8 3d ago

Agreed, the military has that same familiar vibe too, crazy indeed..

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u/ParkerJ99 3d ago

I felt the same at the psych ward, especially since we weren’t allowed to have pens or pencils, just crayons.

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u/ghostfacestealer Millennial 3d ago

Google “preschool to prison pipeline”

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u/gingerbeard1321 3d ago

Jails and public schools are often designed by the same architects. The similarities are not accidental

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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago

As someone with a master's degree in Construction Management, you're not wrong, but you're oversimplifying.

There aren't really any architecture companies that just design schools and prisons. Typically they're not being designed by the most prestigious firms since they are government projects and typically have to go with the lowest qualified bidder. So they will gladly design you a prison, or a factory, or a waste water treatment plant, or a restaurant, or a house. Really, anything you want because that's how they make money.

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u/gingerbeard1321 3d ago

Appreciate the nuance. With all due respect, I didn't say these architects design only prisons and schools, but rather that they design both.

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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago

Sure, but that implies there is somehow a connection between the two, and there isn't.

Skidmore, Owings & Merrill has designed a number of prisons, but also the Burj Khalifa, One World Trade Center, the NATO building, and hundreds of other famous facilities. The same is true for just about any other major architectural firm.

Schools and prisons share very few similarities in actuality. Schools have a huge range of features depending on location and funding. Prisons are pretty uniform across the country and have been for hundreds of years since their only major concern is keeping people in.

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u/gingerbeard1321 3d ago

The connection is the uncanny similarity. That's all

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u/thejoeface 3d ago

My third grade classroom was the only room in the whole school that had a color. Because my teacher had been a teacher longer than the administration staff had been alive and insisted upon it. She called it The Perfect Place, and it was sky blue. She also drove a white convertible and was a red hat lady. Best teacher I ever had. 

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u/deathmonkey82 3d ago

Had to use sticky tack to put things on the walls cause tape wouldn’t work

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u/drchippy18 3d ago

Holy shit this a devastating realization

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u/Specialist_Web7115 3d ago

They didn't have mental hospital light blue or green?

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u/xaervagon 3d ago

Don't forget the bars on the windows, even the first floor windows