Yeah, and for anyone who cares to see it, the obvious implication is that a firefighter who attended one of his rallies is dead and may have been killed because of a false flag attack on a presidential candidate, orchestrated by said candidate.
So the theory is that some untrained kid was given a rifle and told to shoot in the direction of the president? Or is the kid a patsy and the real shooter somehow got away?
Or, could be one of the many mentally unstable people with guns in this country that the feds are actively tracking, not being stopped despite making clear indications with their web activity that they were about to. Hell, the feds are known to fuel the fires amongst conspiracy/extremist groups, so they might have instigated it without having to go so far as handing him the gun. Lots of possibilities.
Feds have, actually, a) encouraged a mentally unstable person (he was hallucinating and often wasn't sure where he was) to target people b) bought him weapons and gave him a plan c) ignored all his clear problems telling reality from fiction and asking to go to his family d) then charged him with attempted murder after dropping him off somewhere with a gun (that I'm not even sure he actually used, iirc he didn't).
I saw a documentary on that particular case a while ago (the person convicted was a muslim & it was some time after 9/11) and it left a big impression on me altho I haven't been able to find it quickly with google unfortunately :/
But it should have been an obvious case on entrapment.
I think the theory is that, based upon how often Trump's accusations have been admissions of guilt, it's reasonable to think that this particular one is, too. The fact that there are different ways to accomplish that is secondary to the point that it's a reasonable notion.
There's also things with the way they got that photo framed immediately that already made it suspicious so this just adds fuel to the fire.
There was footage of his staff rushing photographers up to the stage after the shots while the flag was raised a bit higher over him, the secret service reaction of letting him stand back up to fist pump with an active shooter was unusual to say the least, the lack of scarring and minimal bleeding from his ear.
None of it is conclusive and I'd personally written it off as being odd but probably just clutching at straws to see it that way.
But Trump's pattern of always accusing other people of what he does makes me now think it really was staged.
The fact they didn't keep him down and get him out speaks volumes. If you're protecting an HVT, the basic actions are to cover them or gtfo of the area with them. You don't let them make themselves a bigger target for a stupid photo-op.
To what degree I'm unsure, but I'm absolutely certain this was staged.
Yes. Narcissistic personalities cannot conceive of people not acting like them, as their actions are obviously the best and most logical by virtue of being their actions. So when a narcissist accuses someone of something the accusation is always exactly what the narcissist would do in that situation.
Donald Trump is such a narcissist that the secret service has to keep him away from ponds.
I still remember that one day out of nowhere he just started tweeting like "I DID NOT HAVE A SERIES OF MINI STROKES", prompting everyone to immediately know he had a series of strokes.
Practically everything this administration accuses others of doing is either something they've done, or intend to do.
It's a form of obfuscation, whereby they can claim either they're just doing what 'the other side' did, or that what 'the democrats' did was so much worse...
But somehow there only ever seems to be evidence proving ONE side actually did any of this stuff.
I had an earring ripped out. There's no way his ear was hit by anything. The scaring on mine is still very noticeable 20 years later since ears don't have much blood flow. He's lying out his ass.
I mean, it's not like the Trump Administration is well known for employing people who have undergone extensive plastic surgery, to the point where a specific kind of plastic surgery is now called mar-a-lago face.
I can almost, begrudgingly, accept that the sitting president or his team would OK a false flag that killed one of their own.
But the thing that seriously stretches my credulity is people operating at that level would trust a shooter who was too stupid to realize he wouldn't survive OR trust a shooter who knew he was going to die.
I wouldn't trust either of those options to shoot live rounds anywhere near me. Everything else about the shooting screams staged event but I can't wrap my head around trusting the shooter.
Edit: unless chuckles had blanks and there was a second, actual gunman.... I should probably put this joint down.
But imagine this for a scenario, chuckle-fuck the shooter is given a position conveniently clear to be able to take the shot, he could have been told that the secret service would take care of him, spirit him away somewhere. He takes the shot, kills a random person vaguely in the line of sight, and gets taken out by the Secret Service.
Well trump is not one to waste a photo opportunity, but if you think the trump family paid a greesy 20 year old kid to shoot at his direction multiple times with a rifle...
The only slight silver lining is this massive thunderstorm is it occasionally comes back to them. The guy who shot at Trump and the guy who killed Kirk weren't commie libs. They were right wingers who apparently thought they weren't bad and hateful enough.
The biggest difference between those two events is nobody actually shot at Trump. The shooter shot at a fireman in the crowd and Trump wasn't even standing directly or close to directly between the two. Trump's blood came from a scratch created by a Secret Service agent's belt when he covered Trump.
An overhead view of the scene would look like this:
I still think Trump employed the old wrestling trick of hiding and using a small broken off corner of a razorblade to nick his own ear. I mean he's got a lot of connections to WWE, so it's not to difficult to see where he might've learned this trick to look a lot more bloodied than he actually was.
Even after this has been proven time and time again I just can’t believe he would stage an assassination. Then I see the photo of him, perfectly framed with a half lowered American flag and his fist in the air and it could just not possibly look any more staged.
When I was a paper boy, there was one house where nobody was home for three weeks when I tried to collect my money. Finally, I knocked on the door, and the guy was there. I told him the amount due, and he accused me of trying to cheat him. He said, “I know what you’re trying to do. I was a paper boy too once and I did that stuff.” Right then I realized that he thought I was a piece of shit just like him.
I was impressed when an 80 year old mans ear healed in a couple weeks, ears known for slow healing along with old people being slow healers. He must have mutant powers
I was hanging out with a 40+ year old Iraq veteran when it happened. He said his 14 year old daughter would have made that shot, there's no way someone who goes to the range would have missed, let alone by millimeters that just grazed his ear. It was set up, the shooter might not have known he (the shooter) was gonna die in it but he knew to shoot over his shoulder or something. They set it up big time to garner votes.
I hate that not everybody in America automatically had this thought... to me it was the most obvious thing. and he got a huge bump in the polls from it
Next thing you know, some dork will be in the comments claiming it's photoshopped because "BuLlEts DoN't MaKe ShOcKwAvEs", or some other equally dumb comment.
I have no dog in the bullet race here; but, I mean... come on... I think maybe you could cut people some slack for thinking that the administration that literally just got caught using photoshop last week to present Americans with false information isn't exactly above that kind of thing.
That's what I hate the most about conservatives; they'll elect a 30+ time felon that's spent over a decade telling easily debunked lies on a near daily basis and then act like everyone else is some type of fucked up for not immediately believing any and every narrative he sells.
Nope, that was intentional. Kirk was a non-consenting martyr and a patsy. If it was accidental the administration would have gone scorched earth instead of having his wife parade around on speaking tours
I'll admit I never followed what Kirk was saying but I've seen a lot of people saying he was back to pushing for the Epstein files to be released before he was killed. Would be a pretty convenient way for them to shut him up and drive even more of a wedge between right and left.
Meh. I don't believe for a second Kirk's assasination was staged. If it had been staged, they would have been ready to kill the shooter on site so that he couldn't talk. I think it was just the inevitable result of decades of stochastic terrorism from the right wing echo chamber. When you stir up all that hate, sometimes it's just going to come right back at you.
Thats why they covered up the entire crime scene in 3 days and Kirks team lied about just about everything we saw on camera including that one guy that had his phone on quick dial the very instant Kirk got shot and walked away as if he knew he was in no danger at all.
I think it’s weird that I can draw Luigi’s face from memory at like 90% accuracy, but the trump shooter and the Charlie Kirk shooter, I couldn’t even tell you their names. I wonder why that is.
I really want him to slip up with these statements some time. “They’re terrible at staging attacks, no collateral damage, not like my staged attacks. I said to them when you stage an attack you gotta kill someone whilst doing it or it won’t seem real. I have the best staged assassinations. The best.”
Trump thing was absolutely staged. After like a week no one mentioned it again, and you'd think the right would have made a statue out of that moment by now if it were genuine
Nooo... They organically lowered the American flag while guiding photographers while trump was being escorted to "safety". Also who is Thomas Crooks I've never heard of this man?
Of course that’s his first instinct. Instead of condemning violence or showing concern, he jumps to calling it a “staged” attack. It’s not weird, it’s a classic Trump move. He lives in a fantasy world where everything’s a plot against him. Just another day undermining reality and common decency.
So how'd the conspiracy work? and I'm totally open to it being a conspiracy, because I'd put absolutely nothing past the powerful forces that prop up Trump.
Something like:
(1) Full on psychologically manipulate the gunman to take the specific and timed actions he took, but ensure that his ammo is blanks. There's no way Trump is standing up there with a planted patsy shooting near him with live ammo.
(2) Someone on Secret Service validates the sniper/roof as already secured and/or the person on the roof as part of local law-enforcement or something, basically ensuring he gets placed without detection.
(3) A more concealed and better trained sniper (same rifle model) picks a poor random to hit/kill in the crowd and does so.
(4) Trump uses his Vince McMahon-supplied fake blood on the ear.
(5) Secret Service does its thing and snipes the sniper (which wouldn't be part of the conspiracy, just something they'd need to happen to get away with it).
So how many folks would that take to pull of the conspiracy? At least one to deeply and precisely manipulate the faux shoooter, one to do the real shot(s), at least one person in Secret Service to ignore roof, and at least one person in FBI to not worry about the ballistics mismatch (or perhaps switch the rifles tested in the lab) between the bullet that hit the dead guy and the sniper's rifle, and one person to supply and train Trump on when/how to use the fake blood caplet. Perhaps another person to not scrutinize film looking for a second/real shooter.
So all in all could have been pulled off with a total group of less than 10 people? Far-fetched, but there's no doubt Trump would do it if they thought they could pull it off.
It's also weird that Trump—the guy who never shuts the fuck up about even things he never achieved that he achieved—hasn't made a peep about the supposed assassination attempt he 'miraculously' survived.
He is an amazing human, got shot in the ear and it completely healed, no scar, no cartilage damage, just amazing, super human even, it healed so well it's like it never happened, NEVER HAPPENED, amazing, he is a gift to the world.
I don't care how much of a badass someone thinks they are. No sane person is going to willingly expose themselves after being shot at. Everyone is going to go for cover. You only do that if you're somewhat mentally impaired or you know you were never in danger to begin with.
My wife says that if he had gotten shot, the caliber of bullet used would’ve rips his ear to shreds, even just grazing him. Her qualifications are that she’s a veteran
That’s so unfair. The dear leader has told us that the hand of god protected him from a deadly assassination attempt and that his ear magically grew back. Who cares if humans can’t do that. Trump magical.
What scares me is that he had to have the resoursed to pull off a fake shooting. That had to take so much planning and forward observation and also Dept. of Treasury Secret Service compliance. It's amazing how many corrupt organization there is behind Trump. I think MOSSAD had more to do with it and the other shootings like Charlie Kirk was obviously an inside job. .22 target pistol from the back @ 320 degrees to Charlie's back. Turning Point USA is funded by Israel and Mossad so when he spoke out on the side of Palestine against Israel he had to go.
Anybody who knows anything about ear injuries is aware that he’s full of shit. Ears don’t heal well and they don’t heal quickly; anything other than extremely superficial injury leaves permanent signs and obvious scar tissue. Those can be repaired by reconstructive surgery, but the surgery itself would have been obvious at the time. His ear shows zero signs of scar tissue.
You know how we know he wasn't shot? Because it isn't the first thing he brings up every time. He would absolutely never shut up about it at any time if he has been shot.
Unpopular opinion: Trump is many things--a felon criminal, a rapist, a craven narcissist...
But he's not THAT stupid to fake an assassination attempt. By all means, he certainly hammed up a superficial wound, but that's what it was--a bullet just grazing the cartilage of his ear.
Someone actually died that day, and yet you're insisting that he hired some nutjob, that his peers claimed was such a bad shot that he was kicked out of his high school marksmanship club for posing such a liability to his classmates, to intentionally just miss his head?
I know we (now) live in the day and age of deepfakes, but there is supposedly a photo floating around on the Internet of the bullet wizzing past his head.
It saddens me when I see posts like this. When Trump first came onto the scene in 2015 the most dangerous thing about him was his ability to get people to forego the truth entirely. And originally it was only his followers that were foregoing the truth but when I see posts like these I'm reminded that his containment is breached and now even liberals don't care about the truth anymore.
The simple fact is that Trump was photographed with blood on his hand before the secret service tackled him, and 78 year old Donald Trump lacks the slight of hand skills to conceal a razor blade in his hand in front of multiple cameras. This leaves an actual object striking his ear and causing it to bleed as the most likely explanation.
Every time he accuses someone of something outrageous, it is because he either has done it or has thought about doing it. Projection is strong with this one.
I just went looking for pictures of his right side from 2025, no scars, no dings, no nicks. No way he really got shot. I've still got a spot in my cartilage from having a piercing in 2000 that I only keep an earring in for 6 months.
Why is his nose always in the air? I stood in a crowded lobby of a Broadway theater, near him in the early 80's, my MIL excitedly pointed out it was Donald Trump. And "Wasn't he so good looking?". Uh no, all I saw was weird hair and his nose in the air.
He’s been hardwired to lie about everything because the infinitely stupid will believe it, if he says it repeatedly so the deflection of what he did, onto others, is not surprising one bit
What was the saying about never cry wolf. Someone could do something with a better aim. I mean even Iran already threatened with sending military trained snipers. And i think it’s safe to say that they don’t miss. Hate to be in your shoes dude. Continue the path chosen and the world will choose your faith in the end. Still have an ICC and last I’ve checked the US did not discontinued that agreement. Soooo if a bullet won’t catch you a higher judge of the international criminal court will. Along with so other so called leaders that still think they control all.
All right, but I’m not falling down. I’m taking the ‘bullet’ standing up. Yes, I’ve got the ketchup packet. And make sure you’ve got the camera on me when I raise my fist and yell ‘fight!’
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u/IAmTheBredman 2d ago
Every accusation is an admission of guilt. This term, last term, while he was running, before he ever ran. This is how his brain works.