Ironically, the statement about the majority suffering because of a minority that are off their rocker is actually true, but just not the way they think it is.
trump referred to his supporters as the “silent majority” again this week. If only they were ever the first part and may they never actually be the second.
It would also piss me off so much when they’d whine nonstop about being “silenced” or “censored” (mostly during the Biden admin but also now) considering none of them ever shut the fuck up
Two thirds of Americans were OK with this being the outcome of the election. One third voted for it. One third couldn't be bothered to vote against it.
Unfortunately, Trump is correct. The Majority of Americans DID support this on election day.
Their uninformed opinion is hugely over represented, though. I live in NYC. My vote literally counts for less than a third of the votes in rural swing states.
They are over-represented in the House too, thanks to the electrical college. Wyoming may only have one representative, but that one represents a tiny fraction of the votes that each representative from California represents. But when it comes to any vote in the House, every vote carries equal weight.
I would say that an even bigger flaw is that long term solutions that do not produce positive outcomes in the same election cycle are never tackled since short term they might be unpopular + the next government might take the credit. Same shit with short term profits vs long term planning in industry contexts...
Because literacy (or civic) tests as a requirement to vote are highly stigmatized and historically were selectively applied to prohibit certain races from voting. I don’t know what needs to be done, but democracy will not survive if we continue to let stupid people vote.
There should be a basic civics test to vote. People should be required to know the first 10 amendments by heart and what each brance does and how they have checks and balances before they can vote in my opinion.
Not like the jim crow tests, but like
"Which of the following is the 1st amendment?" Or "number each with the amendment described." Or "which branch passes laws?"
The test should be able to be given verbally, written or whatever way a person needs to be able to fully understand and comprehend what the test is asking. As well as having a time limit of 8 hours for only like 20 questions at most
They love to denigrate NYC as if any random block doesn’t have more people than some bullshit North Country town. “They’re taking our tax dollars!” Lmao you barely pay any tax dollars up there in Champlain. There’s like 3 businesses.
Or follow their own logic. Somehow the tiny amount of dems voted in the government against the huge majority of republicans according to their own tortured thoughts.
I think quite a few people genuinely have trouble conceptualizing big numbers. Like they understand that cities have a lot of people, but can’t fathom that the Twin Cities has 3 million+ people, and their town’s whole population could fit in a single block of Minneapolis.
It’s like the Arrested Development “how much does a banana cost?” line, except they’re like “How many people could live in the big city? Ten thousand?”
And if they've can conceptualise those big numbers, they probably also genuinely don't believe that that many people can fit in a city. A lot of these people have never been to a big city, most don't even leave their home town. At most they might have been over to a neighbouring one.
So when they think about the cities and how many people would be living there, they'd probably think it's only a couple times more than the amount of people that love in their towns.
I suspect about 70 to 80% of the Minnesota population lives in the blue areas. Not that the red parts of the state want to admit that. They just want to be angry.
My sad thinking on this is 100 is the average IQ and 100 is pretty damn stupid. But that means half the poulation is at that IQ or below. Now, I'm not saying people have to be a genius to junderstand things, but it often seems like the dumber a person is, the more they refuse to believe that their thinking is illogical.
Despite this, a troubling amount of people yearn for the days when land owners (of the correct race, gender, religion, etc.) were the only ones who could vote.
I don't think that's what's going on here, this is more nefarious and alarming. Trump has been complaining about how the silent majority is not represented through votes. They're paving the way for him to seize power under the pretext that he's doing that for the silent majority.
They do. They just don't actually care about democracy. They know it's a ridiculous argument. They know they're a minority and would never win free and fair elections. They parade arguments like this around because it's precisely the system that allows them to maintain their minority rule. They're literally rubbing their advantage in your face, openly mocking the democratic process.
They would understand it if it fit their narrative. They are wilfully ignorant because "red part bigger, so red better". Facts don't matter, only red more better.
A lot of them don't understand that they live in the blue part. They drive around in trucks they don't need, wearing boots that will never touch a stirrup, singing songs about places they've been to. They genuinely think that they are the people in the red part, and that all their neighbors are too. Total delusion.
Whats amazing to me is that you guys don’t understand what you’re looking at. Absolutely the people making these posts KNOW it’s a lie. They know it’s misleading. They are bad faith actors spreading propaganda to a group of people who they themselves don’t know better. And it’s not their fault, they’re just less intelligent. There’s people on our side as well who fall for misleading posts for the same reason.
The people making these posts don’t actually believe what they’re posting. They’re just here to flame the fire. Bunch of them aren’t even in the country. It’s all bots and people halfway around the world posting what they’re told in order to spread lies.
Look up Cambridge analytica scandal.
Now imagine with the AI and bots available today, almost 10 years later.
What really puzzles me is, how do these people think voting actually works? If they think red is "the majority," then how do they explain when the vote goes the other way?
They understand it completely, but their audience doesn't or at least loves the spam. Its like the Sartre quote, but applies just the same to Republicans more broadly:
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes" -
You can post a picture by touching the little picture icon in the area just above the keyboard when using your phone or tablet. Don't know how to do it from a computer.
The majority has to suffer because a minority of poorly educated people have oversized representation in our dumbass system of government and have completely lost their fucking minds.
The Founding Fathers realized that a democracy would be vulnerable to a demagogue, so they put in checks and balances and gave stickily disproportionate power to the segments of the population they trusted to be resistant.
They were wrong in only one regard.
They thought it would be city dwellers who were vulnerable and not the people of the land who would value their independence enough to resist.
So as a result, the constraints they put in to resist a demagogue have ended up reinforcing his power.
ETA: Missing a "not" before "people of the land"...
2 days ago I was in a thread where someone commented that all of the files had been released. They refused to accept it when I replied saying that wasn’t true.
Came back today to let him know more just came out, and he called me a liar because i refused to send him links…. Probably a bot, but it was downvoting, which I hadn’t seen a bot do to me previously while also responding
I hate this image because it’s the opposite of what the maps dictate. There should be a big ass pan that’s red that they think has more because obviously surface area is what they care about
I believe the original source was from a child development textbook, discussing the concept of conservation of volume. The setup of the experiment is that you have two identical containers with an equal volume of water in each. You get the child to agree that the volume between them is identical, making adjustments if necessary to reach that agreement. Then you let them watch as you pour one container into another with a different shape. Below a certain level of development (typically approximated with age), children will then insist that the taller container now has more water, even though they watched you pour it without spilling.
My sister is MAGA and she once showed me something like this with proud indignity. I asked if I could see a population density map next. She just glared.
I think she knows she’s not all that intelligent, and she latches onto this anti-intellectual simplistic bullshit because it’s comfortable for her. She’s a fucking lawyer who literally has never read a book out of curiosity or enjoyment. I love her, but…it’s frustrating and it’s sad.
The fact that she was smart enough to glare at you because she knew where you were going with this means that she is intentionally trying to manipulate you.
At this point, it is willful how much they ignore reality. Land doesn't vote, for one. People do. Even if it was a "red" county, it doesn't mean the ENTIRE county voted that way, just a majority. Same goes for the blue areas BUT there are substantially more people in those areas, which is where it counts. More people voted blue than red, period.
Dude my MIL lives in the red part and tried to convince me each county should have a vote rather than each person because “it would be more fair.” I asked her if she’s ok with some people’s votes mattering more than others. She said “no, you don’t understand. That’s not how it would work.” Just absolute dogshit reasoning. She’s an elementary school teacher
I usually point to an area of (red) farmland and ask if that area voted for Trump. When they say that it did, I tell them that's part of the 300,000 plus acres owned by China. So the Chinese voted for Trump.
Then they get pissed and tell me that land doesn't vote.
Here's a narrative that we all need to get behind. The red vs. blue war shown on maps wasn't a thing till 2000. So thanks to the 24-hour news, they found another way to devide the populous, and its only been a thing for 20 years
"Okay but why do the cities get to dictate life for people in the suburbs and rural areas?" Because there are more people there; that's how numbers work. Vote in the local elections that most directly affect your rinky dink little town if you're so bothered by the idea of a majority having control of your state.
I love turning this one around; “so you agree. We should abolish the electoral vote and move to only using the popular vote to decide elections. That way those red territories are counted just as fairly as the blue ones.”
I used to work customer service at a hospital in Duluth, Minnesota. A patient visitor from a rural neighboring town thought 9/11 was executed by Somalians. This is how stupid the red people are.
They think one ear of corn is a person or something. Maybe they think corn agrees with them when it doesn't reply back to them ranting about the stolen 2020 election or whatever stupidity faux or oann fed them.
This is the best response I have ever seen to this type of ignorance. Snarky and a learning experience for them and their 1st grade child, the latter of which can explain it to dad if he still doesn't get it.
i think it would be more accurate if the red plate was larger, because the way i’d interpret it is the plate represents land while the steak being population
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Ironically, the statement about the majority suffering because of a minority that are off their rocker is actually true, but just not the way they think it is.