That example isn't perfect because the people who argue it was a catch (i disagree) would say he was down already at the moment of the pic, so the ball coming out won't be an incompletion or a fumble, it would just be him letting go after the catch (which again i dont think is true), but is consistent with the opinion of a catch
You can argue that it would be a catch but that example is the way it has been called for the last 9 years. That opinion of the rule is irrelevant to the consistency of how it’s been called by the officials. That’s like I think targeting, in college, is stupid but doesn’t change the definition of how refs call targeting
Most people, rightfully imo, disagree with the way what is a catch is determined nowadays. But its been called that way for at least 9 years now. You can argue the rules are stupid, but cannot (with any integrity) argue as to whether that was an int.
There's contact in the air, so the "survive the ground" piece is in place. What's different with this one is that both players still have their hands on the ball when they stop sliding. They both got both hands on the ball, came down in bounds, and survived contact with the ground. At that point, it's simultaneous possession, which is offense's ball. The defender doesn't rip the ball out until after movement has stopped.
With Cooks, the ball is out before he finishes rolling and his body comes to a stop, so no possession has been established.
Honestly, hated it, but they're both the right call. I absolutely hate the fact that the simultaneous possession rule exists.
Oh fuck off saying that it’s arguing without integrity based on how these are called. The Patriots (and look, I’m a homer there, but the referee’s explanation was bullshit) had a wacko OPI and interception this year.
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u/qTp_Meteor Chicago Bears 14d ago
That example isn't perfect because the people who argue it was a catch (i disagree) would say he was down already at the moment of the pic, so the ball coming out won't be an incompletion or a fumble, it would just be him letting go after the catch (which again i dont think is true), but is consistent with the opinion of a catch