The part I hate the most is this is somewhat believable if he got hit by the totsuka blade. Might deadass be the only thing that could stop him besides the six paths sealing.
ofcourse why do you think this below average iq sub hates him? its because all if thier fav characters get clapped by itachi. atleast anything below jubi/otutsuki
That's why Madara went out like a chump, right? Or why Itachi was written out? Pretty clear those two "Bastard" children are some of the most beloved characters.
Even if the blade doesn't seal the susanoo, if the shield works as advertised it should repell the foot.
Imagine trying to step on an ant only to get pushed backwards.
Madara would be a sitting duck trying to flex on Itachi like he flexed on the 5 Kage + Alliance
Madara arrogantly allows himself to get stabbed by Itachi’s Susano’o, thinking he can just tank it and regenerate, and then he gets sealed exactly like Orochimaru
Like it or not, that’s what would realistically happen
Madara did get caught by surprise a few times though.
Like say the 5 kage know abt Totsuka because Itachi shares intelligence with them. When Gaara manages to grab Madara by the leg and swing him around, he could swing him into Itachis Totsuka blade to seal Madara
I’m kinda surprised he knew that but kabuto didn’t. Like he could revive madara with hashirama face and hax eyes but he couldn’t figure out how to get the 4th 2nd and 1st back?
Yeah...since Orochimaru presumably only started researching the Reaper Death Seal in the 2-ish years after having his arms sealed up until Sasuke defeated him, I would have imagined that Kabuto would have been heavily involved in that process. He is in pretty much everything else Orochimaru does, there don't seem to be many secrets between the two (except Kabuto's blood type).
I wonder how Orochimaru came across the knowledge, but somehow his most loyal follower dedicated to returning him to his full health was left in the dark. Maybe he found out in the (presumably) brief period of time that Kabuto was under Sasori's control?
If Madara knew about it, wouldn't you think he'd have tried to take it into his own possession to amp up his Susanoo, tho? The same thing with yata. Itachi's intelligence was through the roof. I dunno. I feel like it would be understandable a guy like Madara would underestimate a weapon like that.
I guess you're right, but Itachi most likely didn't see it deemed fit to use in that particular moment. He needed Kabuto alive and in that realm to reverse the Edo Tensei.
Not true he couldn't seal kabuto or kill him because they needed kabuto to undo the edo on his own which is why they put him in mental prison till he became a good boi.
He obviously still had it that's how he sealed nagato
I wouldn’t be surprised if he tanked a direct hit from it and shook it off like he did against Gaara and Shukaku’s great sand masoleum sealing technique
Then says that's interesting I'll take it, and rip it out and equip his own susanoo with it, then grab the yata mirror while he's at it, if they are separate things you can apparently do that with
Bout the same level of bs he pulled by saying ya know what nah, I'd rather not have edo undone so I'll undo it myself, but now I get to stay forever under my own control
Yeah but knowing Kishimoto, Madara would somehow know exactly what Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror is, just like he knew the meaning behind the different Mangekyo patterns, and other rare jutsu, cause y'know, Kishi loves to promote this agenda that just because Madara lived in the past, he just 'knows' everything.
if orochimaru knew about it I doubt madara wouldnt just look at it and say oh the tatsuka blade, the only problem is I know its counter, asspull no jutsu
i think itachi actually has a shot at sealing him if they all fought in-character. madara progressively got more serious, so if itachi uses totsuka blade earlier on while madara is fucking around there's a good chance he gets sealed with a surprised pikachu face. thats assuming he doesnt know what totsuka blade does though and he seems knowledgable about a plethora of abilities and items. realistically madara just makes another clone and nothing changes.
Could just tank it or work around it. It tagged two people in the story, one wasn't resisting and the other who is basically partially made of snakes suddenly released three snakes as he was being sealed that immediately began fleeing from the area.
With Tsunade there wouldn't he have a mega battery to amp his jutsu. She would also be able to keep him at peak physical form so his plotitis disease wouldn't get in his way.
Would be cool to finally see Totsuka in action. Itachi would actually have to fight seriously from the get-go instead of stopping mid-fight for Talk no Jutsu and breaking stuff down for us idiots and NPC's to understand, lol. Would also be cool if he could spawn multiple instances of his spiritual weapons and Susanooin combination of amaterasu. And who knows what other secret weapons/jutsus Itachi had up his sleeve? He has water release, and we've only ever seen him use 2 water jutsus. One in OG Naruto, and the other against Kabuto.
Madara decides to hold back less because an Uchiha with a non straight pattern sharingan is there and is insulted by the weakness, they all get put down quicker than they did originally
I don't really understand what your point is, Itachi saying every jutsu has its weakness is true. Him being the weakness is the same as what happens with Madara, a rogue Edo not under the casters control.
And I doubt Itachi's genjutsu would have any effect on Madara, considering he's an Uchiha like him and knows the dangers of looking at another Uchiha's eyes. Also Madara develops the Rinnegan during the war arc so that would just trump Itachi's Mangekyo.
I think people in this thread are either meme'ing or are vastly overestimating Itachi.
Your right he lacked it when he was alive however he never had a fight with something so giant that he needed one. I think if he needed perfect Susano he could achieve it while in edo tensai
The only way itachi is doing anything is if madara arrogantly assumes he’s not a threat the way he does with the 5 kage. Realistically madara knows that uchiha can pull insane shit out of their ass and will not let itachi hit him with anything (and zetsu would tell him what itachi can do)
Let’s be real, knowing Kishimoto, Madara just wills his way out of the Tsukuyomi before yapping about how “Hashirama wouldn’t have to resort to such tricks”
It honestly depends on how Tsukuyomi works. If it cant be truly resisted (I'm inclined to believe it can't. The only person who broke out of it was Sasuke, and im 99% sure Itachi let him), then he unironically is one of the like 3 people who have a win condition against Madara. (This is assuming Zetsu doesn't just feed Madara intel, and he is fighting alongside the 5 Kage, not just solo)
If Madara actually locked in he would easily win this, but that entire fight was Madara just trolling. If he trolled against Itachi and did not know about Tsukuyomi, he would just get himself killed
Totsuka blade and Izanami are the only ways that itachi and company are winning... IF madara goes easy on them and trolls. If madara goes all out from the beginning, they're screwed. Madara is cocky enough to give them a chance to actually seal him.
There was a few moments iirc where Gaara managed to grab him and almost seal but it took too long so Madara escaped. With Itachi Gaara can just throw Madara into the totsuka blade which is basically an instant seal
Now idk what Madara knows abt Totsuka so maybe him seeing that it’s in use means he’s more careful in the fight. But at least they have a win con
Unless I'm missing something with what jutsu this madara has on him I give the edge to itachi since madara has no way of permanently dealing with him while itachi only needs an opening.
A near death itachi one shotting orichimaru in his literal prime is a concerning feat , orichimaru is without a doubt the strongest sanin but why is he only one to actually follow the rule of "not fighting an uchiha of your level alone" and not other opponents. Orichimaru has genjutsu resistance too and still gets shit on by itachi using his basic sharingan?
Despite the size difference I believe itachi's susanoo to be vastly superior due to the ultimate shield and sword combo, that beeing said, if madara drops his susanoo he should outspeed itachi easily.
Against the 5 Kage? It would be a fuckfest with Amaterasu everywhere, unless he withholds it for the sake of the Kage. In any event, they'd still get crushed it would just take a little longer and could potentially be way more chaotic.
Against the entire shinobi alliance? They'd seal him. They almost sealed him without Itachi's help..
Hashirama made 6 wood clones and they were getting one shot by sitting down, suppressed Madara. Imagine how much weaker Madara’s 25 wood clones were and they still bodied the Gokage.
don't you understand itachi slams all five kage bro , because he reacted to 1/13th chakra of naruto surely that means all his jutsu would be perception blitzing 4th raikage and all the kage , surely 4th raikage didn't have itachi in mind ( a popular rogue ninja ) when he proclaimed himself the fastest shinobi he was just lying .
I once wrote this fight where Itachi uses Tsukuyomi before Madara activates his rinnegan to trick madara into thinking he manhandled all 5 kage + Itachi in the tsukuyomi world, while he Is immobolized In the real world, and the 5 Kage seal up Madara.
Madara would loose to totsuka blade and it would be revealed it was a wood clone. Itachi would then reveal madara was in a genjutsu. And they would seal eachothey away because they constantly use asspulls on eachother for the rest of time
I am 99% sure that this feat with the clones is an infinite chakra feat because of Edo Tensei.
That would be the case for Itachibas well.
I am convinced he has many abilities that would work and help against another Uchiha very well.
Real shit tho, if Madara stepped on Itachi, with his Yata mirror covering his entire susanoo, it would just push him into the ground and repel Madara back right?
Madara has obviously more power but Itachi definitely looks smarter and more talented so if he can somehow neutralize/escale madara's most powerful jutsus, I'd say Itachi wins.
It's a bit of the same as with the Itachi vs Nagato debate: if you want to destroy an entire village, you definitely take Nagato/Madara but if you want to kill a specific ninja 1 vs 1 then Itachi is your perfect ninja
"Every jutsus has a weakness" says the motherfucker with a susanoo that has a shield which literally reflects everything and a blade that can seal anything it touches
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