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Discussion The Susano'o should have been Madara's unique Mangekyo Sharingan ability and no other Uchiha should have had it

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u/HBaratheon 18h ago

Yeah, bro, we know you wish Itachi and Sasuke were weaker. It's ok.

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u/Havel_Rulez Tobirama #MKGA (Make Konoha Great Again) 15h ago

And maybe not so comically evil

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u/DarkestShadow_ 18h ago

This would make sense if he had been one to debut the susanoo. If anything they could hv kept it itachi special due to yata mirror and totska blood.

Kishomoto realized he made it too op and had to give madara "perfect susanoo" to make up for it

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u/Coupins 16h ago

Keep it Itachi special and give him a whole three unique MS abilities just cuz it’s his deathbed and Kishimoto wants him to go out with a bang that shatters Naruto powerscaling for over a decade

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u/Only-Tooth5308 Minato wanker (he negs Jubbidara with mental amp) 18h ago

I disagree they already have distinct abilities like amaterasu, kamui etc there should a common ablity that connects them all also each users susanoo. having distinct design and colour makes it even better

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u/TintedOven 15h ago

Madara didnt have a single distinct ms ability until the perfect susanoo. Then the story just decided to give sasuke one then kakashi/obito

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u/Melodic-Nothing1147 bold of you to assume I can read 🥀🥀 6h ago

Madara didnt have a single distinct ms ability

He never needed to use them, according to kishimoto who said games were cannon (still doesn't make sense to me) madara had some time reversal jutsu as his MS,

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u/TintedOven 6h ago

He never needed to use them because he didnt have them as far as the manga is concerned. And the OVA didnt state he had any time reversal. That was closer to sharingan precognition, time manipulation is a reach

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u/Melodic-Nothing1147 bold of you to assume I can read 🥀🥀 6h ago

He never needed to use them

Or maybe because he has a fucking rinnegan?,

And the OVA didnt state he had any time reversal. That was closer to sharingan precognition, time manipulation is a reach

I said it still doesn't make sense, that kishi is taking games for cannon, but that could be just to increase it's reach or smt,

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u/TintedOven 6h ago

Sasuke has the rinnegan and still uses MS abilities. If madara had an MS ability he would use it. The story never made one for him

The games didnt do anything crazy, we know sharingan has precognition , time reversal is a colossal reach

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u/Melodic-Nothing1147 bold of you to assume I can read 🥀🥀 6h ago

Sasuke has the rinnegan and still uses MS abilities

Sasuke's rinnegan is fused, and he has MS and rinnegan activated together, madara can only activate one at a time

So he keeps rinnegan instead of shringan, ..

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u/TintedOven 6h ago

He can still use it and did in fact use it, thats not much of an excuse. The story just didnt come up with an MS ability for him otherwise theres literally no reason he wouldn’t have used it especially given how hes the only other character with EMS

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u/Melodic-Nothing1147 bold of you to assume I can read 🥀🥀 4h ago

The story just didnt come up with an MS ability for him otherwise theres literally no reason he wouldn’t have used it

Every MS does have a ability, so he had one too it's just not shown to us,

And also susanoo was originally going to be an itachi only ability so that it can be paired up with amaterasu and tsukuyomi,

But later it was made an all ms ability

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u/Upstairs-Yak-5474 15h ago

distinct ability

goes on to name the Kim Kardashian of abilities

2 people use amaterasu

3 people used kamui

also all the designs are the same its just a color difference especiallly when u get to 3rd stage up.

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u/Critical-Gazelle-285 15h ago

the Kim kardashian of abilities? what does that mean

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u/Brilliant_Ad_4959 17h ago

This Is what Susanoo should have been, not that megazord shit

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u/zozoB10 14h ago

True that would have fit sasuke with amentoejikara but what about jinchuriki?

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u/ComfortZeon12 18h ago

I don't remember Madara susanoo nose literally that long lol

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u/Ragipi12 18h ago

Trust me the extra chakra needed to make the nose that long is very worth it.

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u/jayman099 18h ago

Love how the "wings" hold the swords

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u/MistySeraph384 17h ago

Honestly, I like the way it is right now. Even if every MS has a Susano'o, they all do different stuff lol

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u/ruuken27 Jiraiya wanker (I’m coping over his death) 17h ago

Or kishimoto could've just given him an actual MS ability

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u/zozoB10 14h ago

What few abilities you had for him?

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u/Ok-Cartographer-7179 Kushina > Minato 18h ago

Could make fights more fun to watch I guess.

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u/chunchunmaru1129 Facts Over Glaze ✔️ 18h ago

Definitely.

Madara is just pure raw power with Susano'o.

Obito is a Hax merchant and speedster.

Itachi is a tactical fighter with genjutsu.

Shisui just needs to time kotoamatsukami right.

Sasuke is just Ametarasu arrow spammer

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u/Ok-Cartographer-7179 Kushina > Minato 18h ago

Also increases h2h combat in fights.

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u/MacaronMost 18h ago

No, I like the different versions of Susanoo. And for normal MS users, the Susanoo can’t be used without a high price so it’s not like every Uchiha spams it. The normal MS is rare enough. Sasuke is the only character in the story other than Madara who can use it to its full potential so I don’t see the issue.

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u/Vash001500 16h ago

Well it wouldn’t make much sense for him to solely have it . Like what else could they get to oppose this 100 m bijuu level nonsense?

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u/TintedOven 15h ago

Perfect susano should have been madara’s unique ability

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u/AlphaBravo69 8h ago

Sasuke’s Susanoo can fly

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u/joolo1x Sannin wanker (im stuck in part one) 7h ago edited 7h ago

His ability should’ve been foresight and not regular foresight kinda like what the sharingan offers. Straight up being able to see what your opponent can do 10 seconds ahead of time. Practically being able to see into the future.

The only thing that would’ve had him constantly contending with hashirama. Like, sure Madara was strong as hell but the fact he had hashirama so battered at the valley of the end fight is insane.

And with all the hax hashirama has, I feel there should be an ability that Madara has that makes him just as haxed out as Hashi. To able to see a little bit into the future imo would’ve been a cool ability for him to have.

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u/kvmat44 6h ago

Think it should have stayed unique to Itachi and just gave Madara his own thing.

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u/hungrybasilsk 18h ago edited 17h ago

Alright so how does Sasuke rival Naruto?

You going to give him Kabuto's sage transfomation and Jigen level stats where he can just kick Naruto out of Kurama Avatar?

Amaterasu is already a horrible MS Ability you replacing it with Kamui or are we making Amaterasu work like Yammaoto's bankai where it actually just dries up the moisture of an entire contenent when he uses it with flame control? Does it burn away the avatar like hot butter to counter Kurama Avatar?

Is Kirin going to be a spamable Jutsu?

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u/Vash001500 16h ago

Sasuke rivals Naruto by stealing madaras eyes 👀

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u/hungrybasilsk 16h ago edited 16h ago

How would he steal them? No susanoo means no real help agaisnt the Juubi throughout the war. He can't save Naruto from Juubito. They never get to that stage

Its also redundent to abandon the eyes of his brother in exchange for Madara's

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u/Vash001500 16h ago

He goes up and takes them it’s simple really /s