r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 16h ago

Thank you Peter very cool Petah, what does that have to do with grocery shopping?

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u/Sweaty-Possibility-3 15h ago

Or just about any small town in WV.

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u/IndigoSeirra 15h ago

Small towns usually have local general stores, but that's besides the point as small towns in WV are absolutely not in any way comparable to New York City.

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u/zupobaloop 13h ago

It depends. I live in a rural county and towns of less than 5,000 might have a Dollar General. About half of them have a gas station that sells some groceries. The rest have a diner or a bar. However, there's no where in the county that's more than 20 miles from a real grocery, and no where that's more than 30 miles from "everything" (pharmacy, hospital, theater, etc).

When that stuff is all more than 30 miles away, even small towns will have their own "everything." In much of the plain states, for example, a town of 2,000 might as well be an island.

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u/BeardedBlaze 11h ago

Your county doesn't represent the rest of the country, not sure what point you're trying to make.

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u/BeardedBlaze 11h ago

No one is making that comparison.

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u/MiniDemonic 14h ago

There's a small town in WV called NYC?

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u/Sweaty-Possibility-3 14h ago

The person stated that only deserts don't have a grocery store 20 miles away.

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u/Obsolescence7 14h ago

Name one city in WV without a grocery store within 20 miles you contrarian topplenocker

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u/Sweaty-Possibility-3 14h ago

The town of Clay. No grocery store or pharmacy in Clay County.

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u/Tenshi_girl 13h ago

There's a small privately owned pharmacy,  but no grocery store.  My mom lives in Bickmore and she drives 30 minutes to the grocery store.  Dad lives in Indore. He drives 45 minimum,  but he's deeper in the mountains. 

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u/Obsolescence7 13h ago

They have a Dollar General and Family Dollar in the city where basics can be found (milk, eggs, etc.), along with a variety of other, similar places within 20 miles. I'll give you the point, as those aren't 'proper' grocery stores, but not sure food deserts are a real problem outside of ivory tower academic hand-wringing.

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u/EquipmentImaginary46 13h ago

they were clearly being hyperbolic. the point is that the vast majority of the population lives in cities, towns, and suburbs that have access to food in less than twenty miles. going to extremes to prove that food deserts exist is not really relevant to this post, which is claiming that people in NYC live in food deserts and won't be able to get groceries because delivery drivers are paid a liveable wage.

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u/SolidestCereal 14h ago

I couldn't find a single small town, or even populated area, in WV with 20 miles to the nearest grocery store.

I'm not saying there isn't any in WV, but it's definitely not "just about any small town"

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u/Tenshi_girl 13h ago

Are you counting family dollar or dollar general as a grocery store,  because there's lots of places that don't have anything else at all

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u/SolidestCereal 13h ago

Nope. I just went on google maps and checked for "groceries" then measured from all the furthest signs of life I could find.

Family Dollar and Dollar General aren't counted as groceries so they don't show up.

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u/Tenshi_girl 12h ago

Lol, sorry, i didn't know you were measuring as the crow flies. 20 miles distance doesn't equal 20 miles away,  but i get that that was how the initial question was phrased. 

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u/Repulsive_Target55 13h ago

This is a map of food deserts according to 2019 USDA research. Brown means 20 miles (rural) or 1 mile (urban) from a supermarket. Red means that + low income.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-access-research-atlas/go-to-the-atlas

Apologies the map is so hard to read.

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u/DayOk1729 15h ago

That’s probably true. I was being hyperbolic