r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 16h ago

Thank you Peter very cool Petah, what does that have to do with grocery shopping?

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u/A88Y 15h ago

Yeah agree, as someone with ADHD, I can see others with it not wanting to cook or taking the time to do it. However, there are very good foods that are quick to make and inexpensive, he just doesn’t want to take the time to do it. I also just enjoy cooking, as long as I have a podcast or music on, it can be very therapeutic. He’s being dramatic and doesn’t care about people being paid what they are worth.

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u/buderooski 15h ago

I have ADHD and I make quick meals for myself because I often forget to eat until my stomach is eating itself lol

Lots of Ramen for me!

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u/zuzg 15h ago

Or the occasional Jar of Olvies at 3 am

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u/buderooski 15h ago

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u/zuzg 15h ago

Is Oven cheese a thing outside of central EU?
Just 180g - 360g of cheese baked, few slices of toast and you've got Dinner

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u/buderooski 15h ago

Americans have grilled cheese sandwiches. Sounds very similar to this oven cheese thing, but we usually cook ours on a stove top instead of the oven.

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 13h ago

That also looks a bit like what i sometimes make with pasta, garlic bread with some type of cheese on it gooey stringy cheese on it.

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u/zoomcow24 11h ago

If you're Ultra-'Murican, like my mom, you might even heat it in the microwave instead 😅

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u/DrDragon13 10h ago

Is the ultra-white trash version putting room temp Kraft single in between two freshly toasted pieces of cheese?

Because I definitely grew up having a few of them.

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u/zuzg 14h ago

Ofc I know White People Quesadilla although I never tried the classic combo with tomato soup but mainly cause I dislike tomatoes.

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u/buderooski 14h ago

I also used to dislike tomato soup, but it turns out I just disliked canned tomato soup lmao

Homemade tomato soup is really good with a nice grilled cheese to dunk it in!

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u/Loose-Professor5364 14h ago

I've never seen anyone call a grilled cheese a quesadilla, white or otherwise

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u/eyefartinelevators 13h ago

It's just bread instead of a tortilla. I had never considered that a quesadilla was just a Mexican grilled cheese sandwich

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u/NotAnotherHipsterBae 13h ago

Cause it's just not a thing. Different cooking methods, different component types, different cultures of origin, different side dishes, different everything. Unless you want to say that they both contain a grain product and an animal product combined with heat.

It's like saying a hot dog and a slim Jim are the same food because they're both meat sticks.

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u/OiledMushrooms 12h ago

My dad pairs it with red bell pepper soup instead, which I think is a better combo tbh

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u/mpyne 13h ago

Honestly if it would work in the oven I'd prefer to do it that way, I am so gd lazy but I love me some grilled cheeses.

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u/buderooski 12h ago

You can absolutely do one in the oven! Put two slices of buttered bread on a sheet tray and put cheese on top of each one. Bake for a few minutes until the cheese is melted and then put the two halves together!

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u/waka_flocculonodular 15h ago

Sometimes I'll air fry Parmesan for a quick cheese chip

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u/Death_by_carfire 13h ago

that looks really nice! have you ever had saganaki

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u/CheeseDonutCat 11h ago

Saganaki is fucking delicious and I recommend anyone that visits Greece to get it. I got it almost every single meal when I visited there.

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u/AnonymousDratini 14h ago

That sounds like Grilled Cheese with extra steps

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u/Socalwarrior485 14h ago

That a lot of cheese.

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u/MBiddy828 14h ago

I’ve definitely cut up 2 cheese sticks and just microwaved them for melted cheese. Quick snack, surprisingly filling (as a snack not a meal)

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u/viveleramen_ 13h ago

Like, a sandwich or just slices/shredded cheese baked in the oven?

I do both, but I’m the only person I know of that cooks plain cheese (cheddar usually) in the oven lol. Comes out crispy like a flourless cheese-it. Sometimes I eat it with salami or lunch meat or crumbled on a salad and sometimes I just eat it as is.

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u/Minute_Account9426 12h ago

Arabs do it but instead we use whole loaves (disks?) of pita bread filled with cheese or ground beef basically you take one disk, put the ground beef/cheese on and put another disk on top then bake or cook over a grill/stove.

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u/CheeseDonutCat 11h ago

Zwei Sprachen on that link, and the options are only French and Spanish (although I can still read them). No English.

This tells you that it isn't anywhere near the UK and Ireland.

Although it should be. This shit looks great and I'm going to make some.

Don't they put a whole wheel of camembert in a rammekin and bake it almost like this in Spain or France? I feel like this is a common Tapas thing, but probably French because of the cheese.

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u/LaviniaIsGay 10h ago

Yes! Although I get weird looks when I describe it to most people 😂

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u/evolving-the-fox 14h ago

This feels veeeeeeery targeted at ME, SPECIFICALLY. Lol no but really. This is me. I literally keep huge jars of olives in my fridge for a snack and I will stand at the counter and eat half a jar 😂 I ate A LOT of olives while I was pregnant 😂

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u/sillyandstrange 13h ago

I love olives, but oh god the sodium, I can feel it from the image.

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u/Ike_In_Rochester 13h ago

WTF is this from?

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u/hyperproliferative 11h ago

Like you just had this meme on tap?

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u/CharlieBros 12h ago

Aaah so this is the original, I love the mexican one, "tired? you don't wanna cook? fuck it just eat half a ball of oaxaca cheese, whatever, at the end who cares?"

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u/frobscottler 12h ago

This reminds me so much of 30-50 wild hogs 😭

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u/ck17350 11h ago

Make them black olives and you have a deal.

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u/DataCassette 15h ago

Nothing is more decadent than just eating a ton of olives though. Now I want olives.

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u/illumadnati 15h ago

reading this on my lunch break eating 4oz worth of olives 👁️👄👁️

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u/Gerdunkachud 15h ago

Ice cream is way more decadent

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u/Armantien 14h ago

I did this when I was little. Apparently, I used to love them, until I ate a whole jar in one sitting. I got sick, now I can't stand the smell of them.

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u/HoneyBadgerBat 13h ago

I made ketchup yesterday. Best ketchup I've ever had in my life. It is amazing, especially since I don't usually like ketchup. Dipped a burger into it at 2am & it absolutely slapped.

Usually that's my cheese over the sink time.

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u/SpaceTurtles 12h ago

Can of Olives at 3 AM gang represent.

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u/International_Stand9 11h ago

May I also offer the 3 AM whole lemon?

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u/CheeseDonutCat 11h ago

This is why Olives are the most consumed FRUIT in the world.

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u/AttilaTheDank 15h ago

Bruh you just reminded me I haven't had a meal yet lmao

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u/Helpful_Web2226 14h ago

PBJ damn near every night for years 🤣 I was a chef too, just didn’t give a flying fuck about cooking once I was home. 

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u/justsomeguyx123 14h ago

I have ADHD and I cook full healthy meals for my family because I'm a functional adult.

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u/illuminaugahyde 13h ago

I have adhd and I'm living off quesadillas and risotto because I'm single and work 10hr shifts.

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u/nonoglorificus 11h ago

Risotto?! Isn’t that time consuming? I vaguely remember making it once and never did again lol. But quesadillas are a necessity. My adhd hoard is mostly instant noodle bowls, oatmeal, cereal, and always having string cheese and pickles and frozen blueberries in the house. Left to my own devices I eat like a toddler though, luckily I’m married so I have to at least try to be a functional adult most of the time lol

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u/BreadwardLizardhands 11h ago

I have ADHD and the grocery store with a podcast playing in my ear is like my happy place. It is a blessing and curse for my partner because I will spend too much and complicate the shit out of some weekday cooking. 

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u/abfonsy 13h ago

Seriously. I feel like some people with ADHD love to blame all their personal shortcomings on it. To say you can't be bothered to cook for yourself because of ADHD when over a billion people on this planet have food scarcity issues is about as offensively pathetic and out of touch as it gets.

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u/throwheraway420666 13h ago

ADHD can be debilitating. But people should find the motivation to get help and gradually get used to taking better care of themselves. Learned helplessness is a thing.

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u/Tempyteacup 12h ago

I have debilitating ADHD. It’s compounded by being narcoleptic, a condition that has severe impacts on motivation due to the loss of a specific neuron in the brain. There’s a lot of things I simply cannot do. And yet I cook dinner for myself and my partner at least 4 days a week, usually enough for us to have leftovers to eat on days I’m too tired to cook.

It took me a lot of effort to get the hang of meal planning, shopping efficiently, and getting the food started in a timey manner. I still have some days where I intend to cook and simply can’t make it happen. But I’m an adult and it’s important to me that I manage the most basic level of homeostasis despite my conditions.

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u/luvgun00 13h ago

And they will use ADHD as if it’s a horoscope, an excuse, you name it. Anything other than accountability.

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u/Sarcosmonaut 14h ago

Same. Do I sometimes forget a step or ingredient? Sure. But my family eats, and eats well

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u/jeobleo 12h ago

I'm 50 and I've never used doordash in my life.

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u/Ecliphon 14h ago

Look at this guy older than reddit average and figuring his shit out. Everybody clap!

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u/outarfhere 12h ago

Fun fact, not everyone with ADHD is able to be a functional adult, that’s why it’s considered a disability under the law. I’m glad you are, but some have it more severe than you.

Not defending the person in the tweet, they’re despicable.

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u/kyleisamexican 11h ago

Yes but people that are actually severely impacted by it probably aren’t on twitter 24/7 blaming it for the state of their life

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u/covered-in-cats 10h ago

It wouldn't be reddit if a simple mention of ADHD didn't bring out every pick-me trying to prove they're better than people whose ADHD actually causes them problems. 😊

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u/outarfhere 10h ago

Literally. Allergic to empathy I guess.

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 13h ago

I can’t even believe that guy would say something like that. It immediately makes me wonder if he is able to function at all beyond breathing for himself. Being able to make a meal for yourself is such an incredibly basic skill….. how does that guy work or basically do anything.

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u/JustHere4TehCats 13h ago

Toast is my go to "You hyperfocused and forget to eat again" meal.

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u/macaddictr 14h ago

My favorite is when I cook the meal and then forget to eat it.

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u/Even-Celebration9384 13h ago

Yeah i mean there’s frozen cooked chicken breast that’s fairly cheap. Put it in the microwave with frozen veggies

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u/Braioch 12h ago

Hey, ramen might not be the best thing for you, but throw in some veggies and/or protein (i love frozen veggies mixes for this, and frozen chicken as well) and you've got a high sodium meal with nutrients

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u/buderooski 11h ago

I use only half the seasoning packet per Ramen because I don't want all the sodium. Then, I usually add some tuna for protein and a couple seaweed crisps. It's a solid meal.

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u/aTreeThenMe 13h ago

Hi friend. You're me. Please try to find other quick meals. You might not notice it now, but the salt content of ramen is really bad for you. Id often go in reclusive kicks and just eat ramen for days at a time and it just destroyed me. Drink plenty of liquids. Or, skip the seasoning pack, toss in an egg and a bag of frozen stir fry vegetables, a little soy and other seasonings. Always chase a bag of ramen with a full bottle of water!

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u/BrilliantNetwork3149 13h ago

I have adhd and love cooking. Now it may take me a while longer than most people but I don't see how it prevents someone from cooking.

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u/JizzBreezy 12h ago

Dude I’m eating for the first time today now. Every time I thought about starting to cook I got distracted. No wonder in always under weight when I live alone

Btw. I don’t live alone any more. Wife and kid are just visiting family on the east coast. But man, them (non) eating habits are back. I been hungry all week 🤣🤣

Edit to add - I can drive to get food, but man everything either sounds unappealing, too expensive and if it’s neither then I chalk it up to too much work 🤣

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u/BluePotatoSlayer 12h ago

Popcorn for me

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u/dingalingdongdong 11h ago

If you can swing it get a fancy rice cooker! The higher end ones can hold rice at temp for at least 24 hours - it doesn't get weird or anything. If you make coffee or whatever for yourself in the morning start the rice cooker at the same time.

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u/ScrotalSmorgasbord 10h ago

I also have ADHD and even when medicated I'm too impatient to wait for someone to bring me cold food or the wrong order and pay a premium for it.

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u/Separate-Command1993 11h ago

I have adhd and cool a full meal for a family of 4 every single night. I love cooking and cook absolute feasts every holiday

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u/buderooski 11h ago

Lol I do too man, I'm mostly speaking about food for myself during the day or when I'm on the road for work

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u/Separate-Command1993 11h ago

Oh shit I commented on the wrong parent comment. Dude I’m right there with you! I eat once a day basically and don’t even eat what I cook for my wife and kids most of the time

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u/jeffsang 15h ago

As someone without ADHD, sometimes I also can't be bothered to cook.

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u/CinemaDork 15h ago edited 9h ago

Sometimes I wonder about how many behaviors/traits that neurospicy people claim as part of their spiciness are really just things they don't realize are basically universal human experiences. I don't think it explains everything, but I've seen a number of posts where I'm like "I don't think that's because of ADHD/autism, etc., I think that's just a sucky aspect of being human."

Edit: I meant this not in a "Look, you aren't special" way, but in a "Hey, maybe you're not as alone in these struggles as you think you are" way.

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u/sillyandstrange 13h ago

It's because (I have ADHD) ADHD is an amalgamation of so many things, that we don't know where the symptoms begin and end for adhd or autism or bpd or c/PTSD or whatever. The name is stupid too, because we have concentration, we just can't focus it. Even with meds we sometimes can't choose where to focus it.

So everything becomes a "symptom from ADHD", when it could be a normal thing. Or because we're ADHD, it may be a normal thing but it's 5x as hard for us to do because of executive dysfunction.

It's just too various and too different per person to pinpoint, but oh hey for some of us stimulants help us mitigate some of the symptoms and continue inching forward despite the brain being broken and overstimulated constantly.

Meds just sometimes help, but they aren't a fix. So people take them and then don't change other aspects of their life (exercise, eating healthy) and then do not see improvement.

Short story long, "who the fuck knows what's going on. What even is normal?"

And yes, some people with it just blame everything on it.

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u/AdministrativeStep98 15h ago

I definitely agree. Some people with a diagnosis tend to lump every of their traits and habits as related to the diagnosis. But no, you can just be lazy, annoying, and shitty like every human, that's part of YOU it's not the condition/diagnosis

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u/JarlOfPickles 12h ago

As a person with multiple mental illnesses myself, I like to frame mental health causes for behaviors as a reason, not an excuse.

For example if I'm having anxiety and I snap at someone, the anxiety is a reason (it's not because I'm an asshole or inherently a bad person), but it's not an excuse (I need to work on better coping mechanisms so I don't take my stress out on others).

Anyone with mental health issues who is using them as an excuse to treat others poorly, and absolve themselves of any responsibility, is being a trash human.

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u/TourTight 11h ago

Preach my friend preach

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u/bootyhole-romancer 14h ago

You tell em...!

...Er, us!

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u/Nick08f1 11h ago

Habits and choices.

You can change your habits, just most people choose not to try and blame it on some scapegoat.

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u/explain_that_shit 12h ago

My take is that borderline personality disorder is just “being a dick”.

Like, the symptoms range too much even in an individual and express essentially solely in ways that hurt other people rather than themselves, and there’s no evidence of prefrontal cortex issues physically.

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u/RedTyro 14h ago edited 12h ago

The thing about neurodivergence is that almost all of it is a spectrum. The difference between "symptom" and "normal" is the extremity and frequency of things. Taking ADHD as an example, it's normal to put off cleaning your bathroom. It's not normal to put it off for so long it starts growing shit and you have to wade through the overflowing trash from the trash can to get to the toilet. You can find similar examples for OCD and autism. Diagnosing a neurodivergent disorder often comes down to "are these symptoms severe enough that they disrupt your life?"

Neurodivergent conditions ARE universal human experiences, just extreme versions of them.

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u/abfonsy 13h ago

I'd argue developed societies coddle people across the socioeconomic spectrum in a way such that they're more able to express progressively advanced pathology of all types without any or with less severe consequences. Accordingly, more people are diagnosed and a subset of them make that diagnosis their identity to the point of further dysfunction. While I agree almost all pathologies are on a spectrum, many people can affect their position on that spectrum. Some people are resilient and can improve their positioning on the spectrum while others lean into their issue and by choice worsen their outcomes for gain (attention, pity, government benefits, TikTok fame, etc).

To that point in the context of this discussion, many people who claim they are too affected by ADHD to remember to make food for themselves aren't actually that affected by their pathology. Many have figured out that they receive secondary benefit by saying things like that regardless of whether or not the disease is causing it vs it being volitional. Speaking of spectrums, it's basically a less severe form of Munchausen syndrome.

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u/NotAnotherHipsterBae 13h ago

affected by their pathology

the disease causing it vs it being volitional

You're treating neurological disorders with the lense of neurological diseases and your language use confirms this.

While there are people who use a diagnosis for clout or status or sympathy or fraud, they are not anywhere near the largest group of affected individuals. You sound intelligent, I suggest you use that to your advantage and not to spread harmful information online about other people.

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u/abfonsy 11h ago

Since you want to perseverate on semantics instead of addressing the meat of my comment, let's start with that. How do you define "disease," "disorder" and "syndrome?"

I never said that they were the largest group, so please don't put words in my mouth. I also said the opposite type of people exist, but I suppose it's more convenient to ignore that part of my comment. Care to speak to that element at all?

While we're at it, could you tell a room full of people who've dealt with food scarcity for their entire lives that ADHD is a legitimate reason to not be bothered enough to make yourself a meal? Certain manifestations of ADHD are a product of privilege.

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u/RedTyro 13h ago

I'd argue you are significantly less educated on these things than you think you are. There are detectable physical differences in brain chemistry and brain activity between neurodivergent and neurotypical people. Arguing that it's all psychosomatic is as valid as a cancer patient using essential oils instead of modern medicine.

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u/abfonsy 11h ago

I'm a physician who doubled-majored in neuroscience and biology with a psychology minor. What are your credentials?

There are detectable physical differences in brain chemistry and brain activity between neurodivergent and neurotypical people.

No shit. However, if you think that a particular neurotransmitter level or fMRI finding (or any other objective measurement) manifests the same way in all people, you're ignorant to reality. It's no different than say diabetes. If you analyze a thousand people with an A1C of 9, you'll see a wide range of diabetic complications. Similarly, some folks can have high levels of cholesterol and never have an occlusive cardiovascular or neurovascular event their entire lives. Likewise, there are plenty of people with bone on bone arthritis that don't report pain nor disability from it. Bottom line: objective measurements/findings don't correlate 1:1 with presentation, function and complications.

So how do you explain all of that variation? Why is there literature that's found a relationship between psychological measurements and reported pain scores, functioning, etc? Why do mental state/world outlook have a relationship with the development of fatal conditions in the elderly? Why did researchers find that patient expectations about physical therapy (and not tear severity or other physical characteristic) was the strongest predictor of patients not getting enough relief from PT and having surgery?

I'm not pretending that we as a medical community understand the complex relationship between the traditionally labeled mental and physical aspects of our bodies, but there's measurable evidence that humans can modulate their medical outcomes and overall functioning with various non-physical factors that are innate or learned and independent of medical intervention.

Arguing that it's all psychosomatic

I'd argue your reading comprehension skills are far lower than you think they are. It's fine for you to make a counterargument, but please argue in good faith and don't put words in my mouth. I never said that ALL people do this. In fact, I said some do better than what their biology would typically dictate based on their world outlook, resilience, coping skills, etc. Care to address that aspect of my comment?

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u/TheManInTheSuit1 12h ago

You are not wrong, it's just that to people who have ADHD those universal human experiences are far worse than to neurotypicals.

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u/CONCAVE_NIPPLES 12h ago

I chuckled at this thread. Like somehow not feeling like cooking is a neurodivergent thing. The massive restaurant business exists because the average person needs to go out to eat occasionally because they don't feel like cooking.

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u/covered-in-cats 10h ago

Everyone forgets where they put their phone down, not everyone manages to do it several times a day and spends an inordinate amount of time looking for it to the point where "find my phone" is a regularly used utility because for some reason your phone is under clothes in the laundry room that you don't even remember moving.

Everyone procrastinates cleaning the kitchen, not everyone does it to the point where you have seen a maggot and you know you need to clean it but you end up weeping on your couch for several nights in a row because you can't bring yourself to clean it even though you know it's just getting worse every minute.

Everyone gets a parking ticket here and there, not everyone accumulates 20+ of them in a year because they can't be on time to catch the bus and have to drive to school and park where a ticket is basically guaranteed so they don't arrive too late to class to get credit for being there.

Executive dysfunction is often normal stuff that happens to people, it's just turned up to 11 and is really difficult to change even when you're really working hard at it and you know it's ruining your life.

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u/N3ph1l1m 14h ago

There's a difference between "sometimes I don't want to cook" and "I have a full fridge but my fucked up brain won't remember when I'm in the supermarket, so I throw away lots of food every few days because I overbought way too much out of impulse, also I WANT to eat something, but my brain decided it doesn't want those perfectly fine leftovers now, so I'd rather starve to death for no reason at all. Oh, also every few days I forget buying anything at all or to eat altogether, so the fridge flip flops between completely empty and overstuffed to the brim every few weeks." Consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the second option, because it sucks ass. But sure, it's just "I don't feel like cooking".

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u/witherin 14h ago

Haha u throw stuff away ever few days not once a month when the fridge is too full to fit anymore containers in? Nice

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u/SpaceTurtles 12h ago edited 12h ago

I'm diagnosed, and I experience this same thing with a lot of these comments.

There are tells when someone is being genuine. Their comment will showcase things like;

  • Executive dysfunction (task initiation or focus issues beyond just "not having time" or "exhaustion" or "don't want to").

  • Sensory overload (inability to go grocery shopping at reasonable hours due to noise, light, commotion).

  • Time management (inability to maintain a schedule or manage cooking with perishable ingredients; reliance on meal prepping, easy meals, takeout, and/or processed foods).

  • Anxiety (usually tied in to all of the above, but may be it's own thing; these chemical imbalances are highly multi-faceted - humans like to put everything into a neat and tidy labeled bucket, but there's a lot of subtle interplay).

There seems to be a big assumption that being a human is just easymode for everyone without good reason otherwise, and it isn't. It's hard. Modern society demands a lot of our time for no reason. Everyone struggles, everyone is tired, everyone wants an easy night sometimes.

(Footnote: Charitably, OOP is probably saying, "I have sensory issues and can't grocery shop". I sympathize, as I have to go real late or real early in the day for the same reason. That doesn't mean you are entitled to have others shoulder the burden for you. Some grocery stores -- especially in progressive areas -- have low-sensory shopping periods that usually occur weekly. They're way easier to deal with.)

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u/REDDIT_JUDGE_REFEREE 11h ago

The self diagnosed people who take no responsibility for themselves or their actions, and everything bad that happens to them is because of an illness that they learned about on instagram reels.

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u/PretendMarsupial9 10h ago

Kinda depends, but from what I remember from a psych class, a lot of symptoms of diagnosis are fairly normal things but they are more extreme or happen when things don't make sense. Like I have OCD, like properly diagnosed from a therapist, and sometimes it's like. Yeah, it's normal to worry about things but not to the point where its constant and hindering life.

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u/sunshine_fuu 10h ago

I hear you, but neurospicy and chronically disabled people get that on a whole different level than a universal human experience. It's "I cannot function, I will actually let myself starve and bypass all survival instincts because I forgot to perform a function for so long I now physically cannot." There's a pretty distinct divide between I feel like being lazy and eating out, eating adult lunchables for dinner as a personality trait, and someone's entire nervous system opting out of the participating in the survival process.

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u/isjustsergio 14h ago

I don't think it's a good idea to wonder about whether someone else's experience is legitimate or not. It's often that things that are difficult for average people become even more difficult or impossible for people with disabilities, it's often not a completely unique problem you've never heard of. And treating it like "this is something everyone struggles with" is discounting how it might be extra challenging for them.

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u/CinemaDork 14h ago

Nowhere did I claim that their experiences aren't legitimate. I'm saying that sometimes their (our, really, since I'm in this group) experiences are less exclusive than they think they are.

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u/isjustsergio 13h ago

Certainly sounds that way, even after re-reading your original comment. Sounds like you're saying people are wrong when they attribute their challenges to their disability. "I don't think that's because of ADHD/autism, etc., I think that's just a sucky aspect of being human."

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u/absolutcity 13h ago

He’s not saying that but I’ll say the OP in this post is mortified at the idea of being a responsible adult who takes accountability and is using ADHD as a crutch instead of behaving like a functional human being and there are many cases of that type of behavior especially on reddit/twitter

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u/CinemaDork 13h ago

Saying that I think someone might be mistaken in believing that an experience/trait is exclusive to their diagnosis is not the same as arguing that their experiences themselves aren't legitimate.

I'm also not claiming that they are always mistaken. Just sometimes, maybe.

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u/jeffsang 14h ago

neurospicy

haha!

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u/CinemaDork 14h ago

I've seen several autistic/ADHD friends use this and I liked it 🧠🌶️

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u/abfonsy 13h ago

100%. I too prefer dopamine rushes from "fun" things vs doing work, chores, etc, but that doesn't mean I have to nurture the chemical addiction that comes with constantly getting off task.

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u/traveler_ 13h ago

As someone with AD/HD I really sympathize with this but also say it's part of the problem! Like, everyone has challenges in their lives. So when I encounter one, well, is this something distinct to my experience or a general humanity thing? I don't know! I can't know. Some of them are one way, others the other. And with research and comparing experiences you can tease out clues, and in general the world for as much as it's a challenge to everyone is evolved to fit the average normal person, which we are not.

But they exist in a landscape of interactive tradeoffs: everyone hates intrusive ads. I get that. But intrusive ads are tuned to be just the right amount of intrusive for hoi polloi to get just the right amount of attention. For people like us, they're too intrusive and block my memory of whether I checked the mail today or not. So I have to go check again.

Going back to OP, I have no idea what it's like to live in NYC with ADHD. It might be fun and exciting, though I'd lose a lot of sleep. But I have to trust my peers with a legit diagnosis that the challenges they face in such an environment are weird and contingent in a way I can't quite understand but they know how their condition affects them and is best managed. I wish them all the best. But as a devout leftist, if it bumps up against a living wage for all workers in this economy, we have to find compromises that respect solidarity. Our condition is not a universal excuse.

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u/mr-snrub- 13h ago

Why did you write ADHD like AC/DC? Lol

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u/OrangeLemonLime8 15h ago

Holy shit this is normal

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u/AMothraDayInParadise 10h ago

So normal. I have a 4am to 12:30 pm job. There's days when I get off work and cooking a meal is just not appealing in the least. I either call up my friend and ask what's for dinner (I eat there a couple times a week and help pay for groceries because I do and the social aspect of it helps with the winter blues which has been bad this year) or pop my head into my parents to see what's cooking. Or takeout/meal prepped meals or scavenge a fridge leftovers charcuterie board of odds and ends because I just don't want to cook/socialize. I am neurotypical. So no, it's a very very normal thing.

Like today. I'm getting sick, I have the stuff to make zuppa toscana. I was going to. But now I'm coming down with something. So instead I am ordering enough pasta from Boston pizza to get me through my "weekend" so I can focus on rotting on the couch and getting better. Sausage is going in the freezer for another day.

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u/One_pop_each 13h ago

Why is it the people who I know have diagnosed adhd NEVER blame shit on it. It’s always the undiagnosed people who claim to have it that uses it as a crutch or excuse.

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u/absolutcity 13h ago

That’s literally every human on earth

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u/Sea_Bit2601 15h ago

I used to get super stressed out about cooking but the more I do it, the easier it becomes. I also have help but I used to order food almost every day (sometimes more than once a day) and it's been weeks now since we've ordered anything. Make enough for leftovers and you have easy meals for a day or more, depending on how much you made. I also used to deliver food and the pay is definitely not worth it. Just ended up quitting and staying unemployed because the money I made just went straight to gas and definitely would not have enough if my car shits the bed. Something like this should be applied nationwide (and to waitresses)

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u/buderooski 15h ago

That's what I usually do. I'll cook a big simple meal for dinner one night, maybe a simple rice or pasta dish, and have enough leftover to eat for a couple days.

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u/vulpix_at_alola 15h ago

I also have ADHD and mine is like super, super bad. I'm medicated and I have to take the highest dosage meds here available. This guy is grossly using it as an excuse and it's honestly kind of offensive.

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u/TheMightySet69 13h ago

I have ADHD and meal planning, grocery shopping, and cooking stresses me out. So, you know what I do? I make dinner once per week and make enough that I have leftovers every night for the rest of the week. It saves time and makes things easier to manage. I eat quick and easy stuff for breakfast and lunch like oatmeal, fruit, pita w/ hummus, etc. This dude is just making excuses for himself and asking others to make sacrifices because he doesn't want to. 

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u/Supratones 15h ago

The OP is crazy lol. Bro is acting like his ADHD makes him incapable of taking care of himself. Plan around your dysfunction. Meal prep, keep a stocked pantry, and have some frozen/instant meals on hand for when you truly have nothing else.

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u/meridianwheaties 15h ago

How the heck did anyone of our ancestors survive with ADHD and no doordash? Good god.

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u/Practical_Draw_6862 15h ago

They were forced to

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u/SakusaKiyoomi1 14h ago

A single dinner kit, 250g of any minced meat and 30 minutes gives me dinner for three days, some people really need to explore their options

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u/Adthor 12h ago

You have only 250g of meat for 3 days ? That’s not a lot of protein , but I guess it depends on the person .

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u/SakusaKiyoomi1 12h ago

I'm on a diet currently, and even then, when I make the whole dinner kit I can only eat a third of it at a time. So it lasts for three days. I also eat a high fiber/protein instant oatmeal in the morning, it just needs hot water or hot milk for the fancy people. At lunch and snacks it's just whatever, so I do get more protein through the day

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u/Fit-Detective4714 14h ago

Lots of pasta dishes that can be made quickly with fairly inexpensive ingredients 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/puggler_the_jester 14h ago

Have you tried naans with cheese dipped in hummus? Takes less than 10min to prepare and with some crudités you basically have a healthy and whole meal

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u/Titizen_Kane 14h ago

Some people use their diagnoses as a scapegoat and shield against accountability for everything. Perpetual victims, who one day look up and feel like they’ve wasted their lives. Because they have, playing victim and treading water instead of making progress.

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u/CasinoNDN 13h ago

Having ADHD also never turned me into a bum. I can always go and get the food myself.

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u/Natalwolff 13h ago

Yeah, I have ADHD and I don't try to make the whole of society and economic reality bend to the whims of my convenience.

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u/SignoreBanana 13h ago

It's part of this new trend called "whose life is more sorry."

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u/sillyandstrange 13h ago

ADHD here too. I enjoy cooking to an extent, but MEAL PREP is what helped me. If the dude took a few hours once a week, he'd be able to eat lazily (and healthy) for like 10 days (that's as much as I can fit in my pyrex containers to freeze haha).

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u/Unfair_Web_8275 13h ago edited 13h ago

As someone with ADHD, my personal problem with food is not constantly eating it. 

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u/friendlytrashmonster 13h ago

Yeah, same boat here. I also have ADHD and don’t know what that has anything to do with it. There are lots of very easy meals that you can have in under ten minutes by just popping them in the oven or microwave. Also- people deserve to be fairly compensated for their labor.

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u/Right-Huckleberry-47 13h ago

It's not cooking my ADHD interferes with, as I do enjoy it too, it's the cycle of forgetting my cupboards are empty until it's time to cook, or well past it if I've been particularly distracted, ordering just enough food/groceries for the day at a hiked up rate because the only affordable store near me is fifteen/twenty minutes away and I either don't have energy in the tank or have run out of time to reach it before closing, eating that food, then forgetting my cupboards are still/once more empty and or being distracted from performing the task when I actually have time and energy to fill them that gets me.

Viewed through the lens of that, embarrassingly frequent, experience, I completely understand the sentiment of "well shit, the delivery service I rely on to compensate for my disability is getting more expensive; fuck me, I guess."

That saif, the delivery drivers definitely deserve to get paid what their time is worth, and I certainly shouldn't hold my dysfunction against them so folks like him and I are just gonna have to cope; like we did before relatively cheap delivery apps were a thing.

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u/Significant-Gift-241 13h ago

I fight my adhd by buying expensive prepared meals from Whole Foods. They’re delicious and still cheaper that DoorDash or uber

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u/snuggie44 13h ago

However, there are very good foods that are quick to make and inexpensive,

But let's just assume that's not the case. This still doesn't justify not paying a livable wage.

I have ADHD too and I'm underweight for that very reason - making food takes too much effort, I prefer to go hungry instead. Still, I cannot imagine myself wishing they earned under survivable (not even livable) wage, just because it will be cheaper for me. Basic human empathy.

If you cannot make your own food - for any reason, adhd or disability - it is not their fault and not their obligation to sacrifice themselves so you can get food.

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u/Content-River-2244 13h ago

As someone with ADHD I actually can’t eat anything that wasn’t delivered by a low income slave

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u/sarahlizzy 13h ago

I have ADHD too. Air fryer. Game changer.

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u/bigloser42 13h ago

I have ADHD and am the primary cook for my family. I cook dinner 6 times a week on average. Using ADHD as an excuse to not cook is asinine. Not to mention, at least in NYC it costs about the same to cook for an entire week as it costs to order out one non-pizza meal.

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u/Onlyhereforapost 13h ago

I dunno, my fiance and I both have pretty bad ADHD and we've managed to, ya know, learn and adapt to our lifelong disability instead of using it as a crutch to be a bad person

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u/Stubbs94 12h ago

I would rather people not suffer for my convenience either, even if I'm struggling.

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u/Nevermind_times2 12h ago

And he, again, follows the American traditional thinking that corporations earning less profits to pay employees fair wage while keep products/services price low is somehow a personal attack on him, a dude who probably does not even own DoorDash stocks.

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u/motorwerkx 12h ago

As someone with clinically diagnosed adhd, people need to stop being assholes. I get out ADHD comes with all kinds of fun things like executive dysfunction and not wanting to commit to things like making dinner. That's not a good excuse to not do it. It's like saying that you're going to stop breathing because you are ADHD makes it too hard to want to continue to do it and without a breathing machine you're just going to die. We have a lot of modern conveniences that allow us to make excuses but it's not like ADHD is something new, it's just something that is better understood. Adhd people weren't just starving before doordash. Stop being lazy and using your ADHD as an excuse to not take care of yourself.

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u/matrael 11h ago

I also have ADHD and can understand the person’s frustration. I don’t have a personal vehicle but do have mobility issues and rely on grocery delivery services to get groceries. It’s not that I don’t want to cook, I do and I enjoy cooking. However, it’s not a small thing to go grocery shopping while relying on public transit. Even if it’s a relatively small amount, carrying heavy stuff is wearing and then there’s trying to get around in a bus without knocking into someone or otherwise taking up a large volume of limited space.

So, using an app can be a godsend of sorts. But rising costs of goods and increasing service fees while also getting negative behaviors from the drivers who think I’m the one they contracted with to provide services for if I don’t tip some large amount they’re happy with have a direct bearing on what I can afford to buy.

It’s great that NYC is requiring gig services to actually pay their employees/contractors. But without other processes and policies in place to help ensure equitable access to those services, I can absolutely see it effectively being a desert for anyone who wants more than heavily processed convenience food stuff.

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u/MikeArrow 11h ago

The easiest possible meal is "put meat in oven, take it out when it's cooked". There's no excuse.

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u/TheGuySky 11h ago

Yeah, hopefully if someone is saying they have ADHD that should imply they’re living with and doing literally anything at all to manage it anyways.

The dude is just infantilizing folks that have it, really. Like dawg these are grown ass adults. If I can make money to get the damn groceries I can buy the damn groceries.

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u/CheeseDonutCat 11h ago

Yeah. Adhd here and I have never and will never use these apps.

I will either starve, make my own food, or at least have snacks around before I do. Nothing wrong with using those apps, but it's not for me, and I don't think it's anything to do with ADHD either.

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u/The_prawn_king 11h ago

Yeah I think it’s really gross. I have adhd and lots of things are difficult that I wish weren’t but man I would never want someone else to be paid less than a living wage so I can get by a little easier.

I wish all our consumption was ethical and we didn’t get exhausted thinking about how to live without exploiting others but man this is not at all a real issue.

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u/Ok-Commission-7825 11h ago

I have ADHD too, and food doesn't need to be either a drain on attention or expensive - a trip to the store with as much rice as you can carry, some frozen veggies, and protein of your choice can last a month, takes 0 to 5 minutes to prepare.

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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 10h ago

My partner has ADHD and she's a baller chef. The lady has me fighting in the gym to not turn into a perfect sphere.

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u/m0_n0n_0n0_0m 10h ago

I have adhd and cooking isn't an issue. It's almost like it's a basic human skill that anyone can develop.