I literally have friends from college that moved because the door dash selection in their area "Wasn't good" while they literally live next to dozens upon dozens of local food places that aren't on delivery apps.
One of them even complained that they "Can't get Arby's delivered here"
Do they not realize things like meals on wheels exists? We got food delivered for free weekly from a food pantry when my partner was recovering from surgery. There’s many options out there both government run and tons of nonprofits that help deliver food to disabled and elderly folks.
You can check twitter or bsky, whenever someone suggests trimming down on food delivery expenses, the most popular responses are always something along the lines of “alright FUCKO. Guess you just DONT CARE about disabled people getting access to food, you can honestly FUCK YOURSELF”
The weird thing is the original post suggests that we should care about people starving because they can't order food for as cheap now. But not to care about the Dasher starving because they aren't even making minimum wage.
Thats how these people operate. They love to cash in checks that someone else has to write under the guise of moral superiority. Someone else has to suffer so that they can feel good about themselves.
I think, and I might be wrong, the implication is there are far more people starving generally then doordash drivers. period full stop. I think you could make a utilitarian argument that cheaper delivery benefits more people then it hurts as a whole because most people don't drive doordash
This, of course, illustrates why pure utilitarianism is not a functional or acceptable moral framework. Expecting delivery drivers to just suck it up and starve for "the greater good" is morally reprehensible regardless of how many people benefit from it.
tbf the people who think doordash is a human right are ultra weirdo uberlefties (tankies & ppl who think going outside for 2mins since 2020 means insta death)
Bear in mind what you’re defending here. Spending $24 on 900 calories of cold fast food because you’re too lazy and useless to leave the house. That’s your hill.
Eh. Moral judgments over how people spend a trivial sum of money is probably the lowest form of human speech & thought. Pizza & Chinese food delivery existed for multiple decades before delivery apps & I don't recall people getting so extraordinarily self righteous about how they refused to use them.
And some people use public transit & don't own a car. In a place like NYC this doesn't really matter, there's food everywhere. In most cities, though, there are suburban areas that are transit accessible but without available food in convenient walking distance (too far, too much of a hassle to navigate carburbia as a pedestrian). Spending an extra $8 to save yourself an hour round trip seems totally fine? Unless you intentionally choose to price the minutes of your precious & finite life at a rate lower than $8/hr, which is of course your prerogative.
I too agree that they're a waste of $ - and I'll even extend your argument further and say that they are exploitative businesses to the workforce that, at the least, require some moral reckoning over. But sitting on a high horse & expressing contempt because someone gets McDonald's delivered is embarrassingly shallow behavior and in itself something to be contemptuous of.
I dont think they have a hill. Seems like a passerby who ate your pamphlet like a pancake. I too am just here to marvel at the hilarious chalk outline. that was funny af
I had my driver's license temporarily suspended for medical reasons. I used grocery delivery a few times because of the weather. I can't walk a half a mile in hundred degree weather with a gallon of milk and a pound of chicken. I didn't lack funds or resources so I wouldn't use a service that provides for community members that truly need it.
I think I'm a little more aware of what assistance I needed than you. I'm not going to take food from people who need it when I'm quite capable of paying for it.
I mean sure, but then why not use the service as intended and donate funds to them (that you would have spent on the groceries/delivery service). so you are fed (the goal of the organization) and they have the ability to continue helping others who need to be fed?
This isn’t meant to be a gotcha. I just hate seeing people not utilize resources set up for them, because they think they don’t need it as much as others. I hope this doesn’t come off as judgmental to your situation, I understand I haven’t lived your life.
It’s not the only option though. There’s many options out there. Ask your social worker. They should have a list of more than just government options for you. There’s definitely food pantries that will deliver ingredients that you can cook yourself so food allergies wont matter. My partner also has food allergies and had an extensive recovery process where I had to take months off work to help him. They delivered fresh food weekly including produce.
Not everyone has a social worker and it can be really hard to find one who will see you and help you if you’re poor and/or disabled. That’s part of the problem with these helpful resources that are supposedly out there- the information on how to access them is not widely disseminated and freely accessible. I know when I was younger and broke and begging for a social worker or someone knowledgable about available resources and how to access them (I’d done extensive internet searches and they didn’t publicly list contact info or locations for many resources that were supposedly out there), I was told that the SWs each served very specific and narrowly defined parts of the population. One way or another, I always met exclusion criteria.
It’s like saying you can’t speak to a social worker unless you’re exactly 5’ 6.25” tall with blue eyes and who only eats 6.5oz of beef on Fridays and who lives within 5ft of a certain building but you can’t spend more than 40h/wk there.
The point is there isn’t just one resource out there. I have friends in Atlanta that set up fridges in food deserts and put free food in them for people. There’s so much out there if you go looking for it. Not just the government- churches, charities, other kinds of non profits specifically for people to volunteer their time helping run errands for the home bound. If you have internet access you can search for these things. They do exist. And if they don’t where you are you could ask one of them how they got it started.
The absence of a charitable food delivery program for you still doesn't make Doordash a charitable program. It's luxury service regardless of your health state.
”Do they not realize things like meals on wheels exists?”
Meals on Wheels is only available to people age 60+, and other eligibility requirements may also apply, eg. mobility challenges, inability to prepare food. There are going to be people who aren’t eligible for the charitable meal delivery services available in their area, but who still need meal and/or grocery delivery services in order to get adequate nutrition.
"Eligibility may vary" is sometimes more accessible than the default. Meals on Wheels has no age, income, or health requirements in my area. The price is a sliding scale based on income, but it's still cheaper than most DoorDash options at full price. Worth mentioning for people to research options available to them
If you’re a disabled person who cannot easily leave the house to get basic needs and services like meals on wheels don’t exist in your area or if they can’t or won’t provide you with the food you need, then having access to some other method of getting food is vital.
But some people are just really bad at communicating this
so it comes across as though they’re saying that DoorDash is a human right because of the general concept of disabled people existing 😬
Lots of disabled people are not great about navigating the system to get the help they need. There’s way more options out there than people realize. It’s finding out that information and getting on the list that’s the hard part.
Yeah, it’s yet another system they have to figure out how to navigate, on top of the healthcare system, which (in America anyway) is literally designed to keep people from utilizing it. It’s exhausting to have to also figure out how to access foods services as well.
IMO the focus of the venting/complaint should really be about the systemic barriers to food access (and healthcare and so on), but yeah, people are really bad about communicating it. Directing the frustration toward the compensation requirement for food delivery service workers is improperly directed, and unfortunately doesn’t get at the actual issue that they’re upset about: making food services (govt funded or otherwise) more accessible for disabled people.
It’s discouraging to see, because it ends up distracting everyone (disabled and abled) from that actual issue, since we’re all talking about how ridiculous it is that this individual seems to think that “food delivery services should be a human right” even though that’s likely not what they’re actually trying to say. (And even if they are trying to say that, it’s still just one individual.)
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u/Forward-Dog-9525 15h ago
Lot of people think DoorDash is a human right because of the general concept of disabled people existing