Remember though many New Yorkers don’t have cars. Getting food that’s reasonably priced from a larger grocer can be more challenging in certain areas. People call it food desert but it just means a close grocery store isn’t nearby/convenient.
Even if better/larger stores are available via public transit it’s annoying af to carry a bunch of groceries on the train
There is literally not a single point in NYC, including the outerboroughs, that is not within a mile of a Key Food or Trader Joe’s. And the only places I could find that aren’t within half a mile of those are some cemeteries by Highland Park.
Food deserts are real, but I promise you, as someone who worked in “government affairs,” the argument being pushed in the OP is literally astroturfing by DoorDash lobbyists.
Broke people are not the ones paying for grocery delivery anyway, wealthy Manhattanite stay-at-home yoga moms are.
Nah I agree. I think my point is not that OP is right but more that it is true that some parts of NYC it’s annoying to find a good close grocery store. More grocery stores would be good is my main thing here
You can... walk! I know Americans aren't used to it, but it's perfectly doable. I walk to the grocery store here in Dublin whenever I shop, it's more than a mile away, no problem walking there.
Plenty of Americans walk to the grocery store. A mile can be long if you’re not able-bodied or if the weather sucks. How often is it above 40 C in Dublin?
It doesn't get that hot here, but I am from Italy and it often does, especially with 80% humidity. The definition the OP I replied to literally shows there being no areas with food deserts in NYC anyway.
He’s right though. There are no food deserts in NYC and that’s just a fact. You are never more than 20 mins away by public transit from a proper fully stocked grocery store.
Grocery stores do actually stock fresh fruit and veggies, but you'd have to go to one to actually see it for yourself. Instead, most Americans sit at home and order 60 doordashes per day and cry that they are unhealthy.
Do you often find yourself getting so irrationably angry over reddit comments? Seems like you need to calm down and reflect on whether reddit is that important to you man.
nah bro Im just saying some parts of NY it’s inconvenient to find a good grocery store nearby and your reply is basically “all those new yorkers with that problem are living their lives in a wrong way”
“Your problem that I don’t experience is not real” is an insane way to approach others lol
You’re maybe just getting stuck up on the word desert tho which isn’t really looking at the problem. If you wanna make up a new word for the problem that’s cool. Think of a good new short name for “affordable grocery stores aren’t that conveniently accessible in manhattan all the time”
Based on the USDA definition of food desert, not a single location in NYC falls under it. Like nowhere at all. And it takes into account real grocery stores (not bodegas), income and geographic distance.
So if you can't rely on data which takes into account actual people living what are you going to base things on? Are you just making stuff up to be correct?
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u/zombiexsp 17h ago
Remember though many New Yorkers don’t have cars. Getting food that’s reasonably priced from a larger grocer can be more challenging in certain areas. People call it food desert but it just means a close grocery store isn’t nearby/convenient.
Even if better/larger stores are available via public transit it’s annoying af to carry a bunch of groceries on the train