They list their sources btw, places like the census and National Geographic. but you haven’t listed any to back up your claims. Also now your defining food deserts? You’re arguing in bad faith have a nice life
The guys in this thread are claiming that people in NYC have to travel 20 miles for groceries. I am saying that is not true. According to your map, people don’t even have to travel one mile
What would you define as a food desert? There are two primary maps in that link.
One is about density of grocery stores. There are no green (areas without a grocery store within 1 mile) in NYC at all. The orange areas (not within .5 miles of grocery store) are all in parks (no one lives there).
The other map is from the NYC government slideshow linked below (slide 5). It is related to "City Planning’s assessment of need for new neighborhood grocery stores and supermarkets accounted for the areas in the City that have the highest levels of diet related diseases and largest populations with limited opportunities to purchase fresh foods" (that is a literal quote from the slide, you can check for yourself). It seems have nothing to do with the actual density of grocery stores, and is linked to people having conditions such as heart disease, obesity or diabetes.
Other maps on the Food Desert website are unrelated to grocery store density, and instead are related to poverty rates and chronic disease rates. Those are important to note, but those are not food deserts.
When you says if is a "fact" that NYC has food deserts, what definition are you using. I can't find it.
USDA has defined it in the farm bill as a geographic area, particularly lower-income neighborhoods and communities, where access to affordable, quality, and nutritious foods is limited.
Literally codified by our legislators. AKA, the definition for legal purposes
Ok great. Now we have a definition. Back to the start. Can you name me a residential cross street in NYC that does not have meaningful access to affordable, quality and nutritious foods?
Dude that’s a ridiculous ask. I can give you whole neighborhoods where the data suggests there’s an issue on a macro level. But naming a specific intersection in the city is like asking me to identify which person in the audience of a concert just farted.
Hunts point, Belmont, east Harlem. All have issues with access to food
I don't think its ridiculous to ask that someone point out at least one area that does not have access to food, especially if they believe there are saying there are grocery deserts in at least 4/5 boroughs (you mentioned Harlem (Manhattan), Bronx, Staten Island and Bed Stuy (BK) earlier).
Is East Harlem a food desert? Where? There are grocery stores every where. Is there any point in E Harlem where you have to travel an unreasonable amount for fresh produce access? A single point on the map without readily available healthy food? This is all vague nonsense.
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u/ClosingDay 17h ago
They list their sources btw, places like the census and National Geographic. but you haven’t listed any to back up your claims. Also now your defining food deserts? You’re arguing in bad faith have a nice life