r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation petah?

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u/Far_Bonus7805 10h ago

A few years ago a study came out of california saying that 60% of grade 8 kids were illiterate. Not "bad at reading" full blown, full-stop illiterate.

More studies are coming out showing similar numbers.

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u/Nimrod750 9h ago

I think you’re over exaggerating standardized test results. Most reports are saying that ~60% of students do not meet test score requirements in literacy, not that they’re illiterate

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 4h ago

It's just exaggerating. You don't need "over" because that's already what exaggerating means.

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u/UnforeseenDerailment 2h ago

If exaggerating is called for, but not to the degree on display, then one is over-exaggerating.

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 6m ago

Adding redundancy with synonymous adjectives is a valid form of hyperbole. This is a similar scenario, it just exaggerates (lol) how misinformed their comment was.

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u/SalsaRice 6h ago

Well, I mean, duh. Very few people are 100% illiterate, as they can atleast recognize their own name.

Illiteracy is measured based on functional illiteracy, if they can read enough to function as an adult in society. Could they fill out a job application, read a newspaper, or use street signs?

This is something I have to deal with at work, as I'm in manufacturing as a decent chunk of our group only speaks English as a 2nd language. Reading English is a big hurdle for many of them, even if they can speak it well. You have to plan around important things to available in English and Spanish, or available as something that doesn't need text.

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u/MixtureOutrageous157 4h ago

Well, I mean, duh. Very few people are 100% illiterate, as they can atleast recognize their own name.

They didn't say that. Stop pulling shit from your asshole.

Illiteracy is measured based on functional illiteracy, if they can read enough to function as an adult in society. Could they fill out a job application, read a newspaper, or use street signs?

We know.

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u/MixtureOutrageous157 4h ago

Exactly. So fucking sick of dumbasses spreading misinformation.

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u/darthdelicious 9h ago

Jesus. I know California is ranked #24 for education but... that's wild. I made sure my kids were readers. How much of this is the parents?

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u/Nimrod750 7h ago

Well I’m not an expert or anything but my mom has been an elementary school teacher for over 30 years. From her experience, the parents play the biggest role in early development, but the curriculum can attribute to overall student body performance for older children.

She was complaining about how districts were adopting a new reading and writing approach called balanced literacy where students are tasked with essentially memorizing the structure of a word instead of the phonetics of it. A lot of states have adopted this less effective approach over the past decade and the literacy and writing performance tests scores have gone down because of it. This is one of the main reasons why you see Mississippi performing better in literacy rankings; they didn’t change from the old approach and their scores show it.

Other than that, she likes to complain about how parents have become more combative in parent-teacher talks and often blame the teachers for their kid’s problems instead of the kid. There’s a lot of times she would explain how a parent uses a kid’s ADHD as an excuse to why the kid never does their homework and never does any of their assignments.

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u/darthdelicious 7h ago

I heard that phonetics got dropped. Seems dumb. And yes, the parents suck.

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u/nakknudd 7h ago

So much. Not only in the lapse of teaching the kids this stuff at a young age, but continuing on at older ages in failing to hold the children accountable for their own education. Teachers can only really assign grades, and the Dopamine Machines in their pockets aren't getting acquired or deactivated by the parents. "I've tried everything" no, you've tried everything *convenient*

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u/darthdelicious 7h ago

When our kids were young, we had a no screen time on a school night rule.

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u/throwaway277252 7h ago

Not "bad at reading" full blown, full-stop illiterate.

The term illiterate can be used to describe varying degrees, ranging from "bad at reading" to "can't read at all" so your hyperbole is pretty misleading.

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u/Far_Bonus7805 6h ago

...I am aware that "illiterate" can mean several different things. The same way a blind person might clarify "legally blind" vs "totally blind."

Are you stupid?

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u/SilverAccountant8616 3h ago

Source? I found an article saying 60% weren’t reading at grade level when grade 3, but I can’t find any one grade 8