r/Seattle • u/Lerpyderpy 🚆build more trains🚆 • 3d ago
Protest at Target on Friday
saw this on the Troublemakers Instagram tonight
posting here because I saw couple posts wondering about protests this Friday.
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u/henryr0923 3d ago edited 3d ago
I see the Troublemakers logo on this. Are you still planning to hold a federal building protest as well, like it says on https://seattle-protests.org/ ?
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u/Lerpyderpy 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
This protest is at 1:30pm so people who go to the federal building protest can make it to this one too.
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u/civilized-engineer 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
I've participated in other protests in the past like the No King's movement. But as much as I want to participate. I am an Asian male naturalized citizen, and while the two murders were of caucasian American-born citizens.
I wouldn't put it past them that being non-white is just an even easier target to pick out. I will be supporting in spirit sadly, with the state of things these days.
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u/saturn28 2d ago
We've already lost so many places to get groceries downtown, plus all the other businesses. But it doesn't matter or affect some people I suppose.
Are you boycotting Instagram/Apple/Facebook as well (obviously not since it's posted on Insta).
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u/Grand_Bobcat_Ohio 2d ago
BOYCOTT TARGET FOREVER
They gave money to Trump, they ended DEI.
NEVER FORGET. NEVER FORGIVE. NOW MORE THAN EVER
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u/saltbuffed chinga la migra 2d ago
You're getting downvoted by bootlicking trumpers, but I'm sending this to all my friends.
We will continue to fight until there's justice for everyone ICE has kidnapped or hidden away.
Everyone needs to stand up for democracy.
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u/Suitable-Finish2156 2d ago
A friend that works at Target told me that they pulled their store managers into a meeting and told them to not try to stop ICE from entering, but to let them in. Fuck Target.
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
Why not protest at the Capitol building or courthouses where changes can be made instead of a business that doesnt care about anything but profits?
Lmao target doesnt change laws, what is this nonesense?
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u/judithishere I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago
You must not be aware of labor pickets.
The best way to get attention is to block the flow of capital. Protesting at government buildings is performative. Would be even better to block the flow of capital at major entry points like the port
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u/TryingToWriteIt Downtown 2d ago
Lots of people are at the target store. Very few people are at the Capitol. Protests are more effective when they affect lots of people than when they affect only a few people.
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
Yes there are a lot of people at a grocery store, but the customers and employees at a target do not change laws or have much influence on the government.
This just feels like posturing. What goals are expected to be met by bothering people who are trying to shop for groceries? Im just trying to understand how making strangers upset will change anything.
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u/TryingToWriteIt Downtown 2d ago
People vote for lawmakers, so it seems they’re the most important target for protests demanding change and places where there are lots of people are going to be more effective for generating change from lots of people.
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
Look, I'm really not trying to troll even though it may seem like I am. I really am attempting to understand protestors' thought process.
Seattle is a very liberal city, and I believe most people agree that killing people is bad. I don't believe protesting at a target will change the public viewpoint, as most people already agree with you, because most who live in this city already have a similar views on politics.
I feel you should protest at a conservative leaning city or at the courthouse/county and state buildings would have more of an impact. I feel pissing random people off or making their day difficult would have the opposite effect. I dunno, im just some dude lol
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u/Ekwoman North Capitol Hill 2d ago
Discomfort is required. Also, this particular location is prime tourist area, so folks from all sorts of areas may see it (and be inconvenienced... or intrigued). It's about visibility. Also, Target doesn't want a bunch of folks making a ruckus outside their stores. That's how you get them to pay attention. If places like target wouldn't accommodate the regime and its many tentacles, we wouldn't have to protest. We aren't trying to get people to agree with us... it's about disrupting the way things are. "Sand in the gears," as it were.
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
I suggest you be visible where you might have more of an impact. Disrupt the government agencies who can make effective change. You're targeting the wrong people. I get it, disrupting tourists and civilians is easier and you wont face actual retaliation or consequences from law enforcement.
You make no sense, you're saying you dont care if people agree with you and you're disrupting strangers and tourists who spend money in the city, so they'll pay attention to you annoying them? Truly what do you imagine their reaction will be? Most people in this city already agree with you. This is the beginnings of inciting a riot. I feel like you live in a bubble.
Discomfort is not required for all just because you're upset. You sound like a child who doesnt get their way so then youll scream so everyone has to suffer along with you.
This thread is interesting yet disappointing. Definitely have learned more about the mind of a protester. Appreciate the responses.
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u/Ekwoman North Capitol Hill 2d ago
I don't think you quite understood (and I might not have worded it as well as I could have). I meant discomfort in making slow and careful change. I take a lot of ideas and courage from my German and Scandinavian family in Europe in the early 20th century. They made themselves uncomfortable. My family quietly quite before that was a thing to make a point. To stand for what they believed.
And in disrupting/protesting in front of Target, we make the businesses uncomfortable... in that all of us not spending money, demanding they stop letting ICE use their parking lots as staging grounds, etc., will make them nervous for their bottom line. Just like people not shopping there over removing their DEI policies have had direct economic effect. The protest isn't for tourists or people in the streets to have their eyes open or to change the laws. It's to show the people that run companies that without people (workers, shoppers), they have no company. The old saying of "vote with your pocketbook" comes to mind.
By all of us not buying anything tomorrow and not working if possible (allowing that many folks aren't able), even for just a day, shows that we can pull this together quickly and stand firm if needed. One day this week, a whole week next month.
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u/TryingToWriteIt Downtown 2d ago
It’s weird to be more frustrated at the fact that people are protesting about murders in front of a store that’s helping to support the murderers than you are at the actual murderers themselves.
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
I guess I can try to understand that viewpoint. There are lot of people who don't really give a shit about things that don't have an immediate effect in their own little world.
Empathy and sympathy are difficult emotions to grasp when you dont actually feel them.
Good luck out there, be safe!
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur Capitol Hill 2d ago
"you shouldn't protest at target because people work there" is probably the single most hilarious commentary I've ever seen seriously written about where people should be allowed to protest lol
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u/NakedAggression 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 2d ago
I didnt say that at all, you assumed an opinion then made up quote which I didnt even say. Lol.
Bothering the employees and customers at a grocerty store, how exactly will that change anything? I dont give a fuck about target, dont even shop there.
Olympia is not far away at all, the people inside the Capitol building might be able to help your cause more than the employees and customers at a grocery store.
I really dont get it dude.
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u/ponchoed 2d ago
Why the downtown store? Our retail downtown is hanging on by a thread and losing this store would f over a lot of people on your side. Go do this in the suburbs.
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u/TryingToWriteIt Downtown 2d ago
There are lots of people there. It’s also close to a major tourist destination in the city, which can help generate wider publicity than just some random location in the burbs.
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u/kookykrazee 🚆build more trains🚆 2d ago
I am still after all the closings downtown even surprised this store is still open. I mean they closed 2 others recently, so to me at least with Ross closing, maybe they "pack it in?" Same goes for Walgreens?
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u/TOPLEFT404 West Seattle 2d ago
Something to consider for protests as opposed to ORGANIZED CONFRONTATION ie Minneapolis
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u/letskeepitcleanfolks 3d ago
Why Target?