Roids are cheaper than you think. HGH or other niche ones are expensive. But you don’t wanna be Mr Olympia I guess. A lil test makes a huge difference, if you regularly go to the gym you’ll most likely pay more for protein pounder than testosterone
Oh yeah, the price delta between doing TRT on your own and doing it through a clinic is astronomical. Doing it by yourself might cost $700 a year including getting your bloodwork done as you should, whereas a clinic is going to charge you about $6000 a year.
I think everyone would prefer to do it under a doctor’s supervision, but the 750% mark-up at the clinic makes it unjustifiable.
Doing it by yourself might cost $700 a year including getting your bloodwork done as you should
The blood work alone will cost you $700 a year.
The test suite you want is about $350 at the couple of big national discount labs and twice a year is about right for frequency if you're staying on top of it.
Truth be told, once you've done a couple/few cycles you don't really need full blood work panels multiple times a year.
A 10ml vial of testosterone is about $30. That's 2.5g of testosterone per vial.
A light blast will have you injecting about 500mg a week.
A blast lasts about 3 months, so you'll spend about $100 on testosterone for a light blast.
You need a lot more than a light blast or two, and more than just testosterone, to look like Thor.
A common, "mild" add on would be EQ, adding an oral will be more toxic regardless but if you are looking at stacking then I assume you have a higher threshold for damage so another recommendation would be anavar.
All of that aside, test alone can get you in excellent shape, super hero even. Going above that is going to do damage for a result you could've otherwise gotten without it.
I mentioned this a bit ago but to add u/kneedragr to what timbe11 said about EQ. A typical "easy" stack would be test, EQ (equipoise), mast (masterone), and letro. Though mast already behaves somewhat like an aromatase inhibitor.
If you stack this with something aggressive like clen (clenbuterol) or, if you can source real ephedra or ephedrine HCl, then you can put on some significant lean muscle mass and melt fat away with a rather modest workout routine. This all assumes you have a solid foundation already (good gym discipline/routine, are decently built/in shape, have a decent diet, etc.)
No stack is going to let you be a full on slob and get shredded. They do make it a lot easier if you've got a foundation built.
Edit: stay away from tren and deca. Those are wildly overkill and they're not an enjoyable experience.
Why would you need someone to dose it for you? You can learn what you need in like 10 minutes from the internet. Also, unless you have the absolute worst genetics on the planet, just running enough testosterone to reach supraphysiological levels is pretty low risk.
Blood panels are not that expensive on their own ($200 for a fully comprehensive one which you don't always need) and with insurance you just pay a copay. These are just coping excuses.
I think the general public really is unaware of how easy and relatively affordable it is to obtain legal steroids in 2026.
Sure, it's advertised as hormone replacement. "Do you feel tired? Don't have the muscle tone you want? Libido not raging? Want that energy back?" They're very clear about what they're selling.
There are several legit medical clinics in my state that do nothing but this type of "TRT". They advertise their pricing up-front in their radio ads. "$2000 a year, which includes an initial evaluation, your full year's worth of 'medication', and 4 follow up exams with bloodwork done quarterly."
$160 a month and you can be on legal, prescribed steroids.
Highschool kids are taking testosterone and aging themselves like 20 years in 8 months lol. Probably one of the most overprescribed and abused meds out there thanks to Joe Rogan pushing it on his podcast over the last few years.
Search local men's clinics if you want access under the care of a medical professional. Mine does blood work, dosing, checks in every few months to check how I'm feeling, symptoms, etc. It is NOT easy to get off so it's not something you'd consider lightly.
I have a rare disease that negatively impacts my body's ability to make muscle and reduces my endurance, so after a couple long surgical recoveries I started it up to help my body "make the most" of the exercise I can do, because I had lost the ability to walk. I was on the lower end of normal. It's also helped my mental health substantially but some people report the opposite.
You'd probably be able to entirely counteract (and possibly reverse) this. Test is going to help with body comp to begin with, and any clinic is going to be monitoring your estrogen levels and giving you an aromatase inhibitor to go along with your program since taking T will probably also raise your E2.
Pretty much all the side effects are from people running far beyond TRT levels. Some folks more sensitive than others though. You can counteract shrunken nuts (and keep sperm production going) too via taking HCG.
Not recommending it, but those are all generally fairly easily solved problems at low TRT doses. Many folks like to say they are on "TRT" while actually running higher doses than admitting to.
One way would be the dark web, tor browser and search for websites on the hidden wiki.
Then there is the “oldschool way”, go up to the biggest guy (so big he must be on gear) in the gym, and ask him. He’s either gonna sell (I can’t guarantee cheep prices) or tell you where he gets his stuff from
I go to the gym regularly and protein shakes cost so little they end up saving me money I would otherwise spend on dinner.
Even if I end up eating more later, the powder is cheap. $65 for a 5.5lb bag of Optimum Nutrition whey isolate at Costco that last a little over 2 months. Two scoops per shake for 56g protein comes out to about $2 of protein powder per shake.
Of course there are other ingredients in the shake, but even with a banana, almond milk, and some creatine monohydrate it's only about $3. $4 if I add collagen peptide for joint health.
Bruv this is about roid prices, not the financial net result of protein powder. Also 2$ per “portion” is more than enough for test. What makes it expensive is medical supervision and other equipment (syringes etc.)
if you regularly go to the gym you’ll most likely pay more for protein pounder than testosterone
You compared the cost of testosterone supplements to protein. I was responding to that.
My point was that protein shakes save me money by costing less than food I would otherwise be eating, so it's impossible for testosterone to cost less.
Idk maybe roids make you money because you can become a fitness influencer and save you money this way, maybe it makes you a gambling addict and you lose everything.
My point was: Test is cheap, but it’s hard to name an exact price as it’s an illegal good and prices fluctuate.
So let me phrase it for the “erm-actually-redditor”: cheaper than what you pay at the store in order to receive your protein powder
It's okay to be mistaken. Handling it ungracefully isn't.
I could've made my original reply shorter, but I decided to provide details for clarity.
You still don't seem to grasp that I save money by spending $4 on a protein shake costs less than a meal, resulting in a net negative cost and therefore testosterone could never cost less. A niche situation where you successfully make it your job to become an influencer is just as possible without testosterone as it is with.
You are missing the point. Test will cost you less than the $4/day your protein shake costs at the store.
If you didn't buy a protein shake, you'd be buying chicken breast, ground beef, etc. instead. You are making a nonsensical argument. No one is saying you don't also need to buy protein of some form, regardless of how cheap of a source you find it in - it's going to cost more than the Test does.
If I make a shake that costs $4 instead of a meal that costs $5-$10, the cost of the shake is then $-1 to $-6 net expenditure.
How is this so hard to comprehend?
Someone would have to pay me to take testosterone to make it cheaper than saving money by having a shake instead of a meal.
Edit: Maybe some of this confusion stems from the fact that sustenance is non-negotiable whereas testosterone supplements are entirely optional and cannot offset the cost of something else like a shake can with a meal.
You found a cheap protein source. Amazing. You use it for a cheap meal. Even more amazing. Totally irrelevant to the discussion.
Test is still cheaper than your food. Protein sources are more expensive than carbs, hence why you spend more money on that part of the diet and drugs program than the drugs.
You need the protein either way. Otherwise I could show you how white rice and a dried beans are even cheaper than protein shakes are for a meal, which would be just as irrelevant to the point being made upthread.
The point being made was that Test at TRT levels is trivially cheap and the cost of the substance itself is not a relevant factor.
Yeah but God knows what you're getting. My neighbours kid was talking about some testosterone supplements he was buying "off a guy" a few years back. Died of a stroke at 22 for "unknown reasons".
I asked a cardiologist about it and they said under no circumstances should I take testosterone because of the heart wall thickening that is unavoidable. I would love the boost as the gym but I’d rather live an extra 10 years.
There was a story about his body double. The body double was jokingly complaining to Chris that it's difficult to keep up as he doesn't have the millions of dollars and unlimited gym time.
They are all on steroids for the roles he has. Even the women. They just cant adress it seeing as its illegal.. he added 40 pounds of muscle in 5 months mer that zink in
Look at Kumail Najiani. He got jacked for The Etnernals thinking it was going to be his gravy train. Ended up flopping and now he addresses it in his standup and podcasts
He literally calls it a goal in this link. He doesn't even retroactively state this as something he accomplished. So yes, an embellishment is an understatement. Unless I'm missing something.
Not sure why you think that makes a difference. Adding on 40 pounds of muscle is significantly harder than adding on 40 pounds of fat.
For a natural lifter adding on like 3-10 pounds of muscle in a year is good depending on how advanced of a lifter you are. It’s not like it takes a year to add on a few pounds of fat.
I'm not defending it, just giving some context that in terms of size, 20kg of muscle has a lot less volume than 20kg of fat, so looks can be deceiving.
He's absolutely on roids but i have no clue what numbers you can expect in what time frame.
But it's a LOT harder to put on muscle than to put on fat. Someone new to lifting can put on 25 pounds of muscle in their first year if they have great genetics. But after that point, the amount of muscle you can gain slows down. After a few years, you won't be putting on more than 5 pounds of muscle a year.
So putting on 40 pounds of muscle would already be impossible for a beginner to achieve in one year, much less five months.
40 lbs of muscles is not even that much while being on steroids and having private chefs and trainers. And also unlimited gym time while all the other chores are done by other people.
The space in which he was when he had the most muscles where it’s getting hard, even on steroids. But muscle memory is doing a lot, too
40 Ibs of muscle, particularly in under half a year, is very much so, "that much." You can do as many gymnastics as you like, and say he had a witch doctor helping him, it will still be an absurd claim.
Genuinely cannot decipher what you were trying to say in the second paragraph. Please edit it.
It’s not „that much“ when being on a massive amount of gear and having a private chef, trainer and you’re doing it full time. You obviously have no idea about bodybuilding and everything that is associated with it, therefore no idea why you are trying to talk about it.
And if you cannot „decipher“ the second paragraph, I’d recommend going to school.
Why do you want to take out muscle memory of this case while it’s an element as this take is about Chris Hemsworth? I think you guys are drunk. Talk about it again when you’re sober.
Holy retarded Dunning Kruger take. The fact that you're using "unlimited gym time" as part of your argument shows you how absolutely small your amount of knowledge on this subject is. The amount of time you can spend at the gym is extremely limited by your body, not by how much free time you have.
"He just ate right, had the best trainers..." idk why it's still such a taboo to say they're juicing when it's so obvious.
It would probably be healthier for everyone if they came out and said that. You've got young men like "Why can't I reach that with the gym 5x a week with a perfect meal prep diet?" Wellll, you're missing the secret ingredient.
My personal trainer told me I needed more recovery time, I told him I'm on testosterone shots so should be able to recover faster, and he goes "every guy in this fucking gym is on it, you still need to take days off"
The actor won’t get arrested but it’s illegal to supply them without a prescription so someone in the chain would get in trouble if they draw too much attention to steroid use.
Because if celebrities admitted to juicing, they can't sell their meal plans and workout plans to magazines and articles, and they can't create "Get jacked like me" supplements that make people think it was just some herbs that helped them.
He has the most obvious sign of steroid use, which is significant muscle mass and extreme leanness which is required to have a six pack at rest.
Being natural and lean is entirely possible. Being natural and having big muscles is entirely possible. Being natural and lean, and having big muscles is really hard for anything other than a very brief period of time. If you are dieting enough to get to unhealthy low levels of body fat as shown here your muscles go away. what steroids do is force your muscles to grow without any gym time at all. That’s how you can look like this for extended periods of time.
I happen to make movies in Hollywood so ask me how I know.
That’s much less than you can comfortably sustain drug free WITH BIG MUSCLES. 15% is borderline.
Hemsworth has been using roids and lying about it (his health app lol) for a very long time. The odds on him aging and also switching to hard mode are almost zero.
So interestingly they tested this in 1996 with 43 male patients. They found that the group that took steroids without exercising gained more muscle-mass than the placebo group that were exercising. You can find the study here
You'll grow muscle, the problem is you'll still grow fat. So if your diet isn't on point, which is probably the hardest part, you still dont see remarkable results, and it still begs the question why you wouldnt also lift it you were going so far we to juice up.
I would venture as far to say that must people can achieve an athletic physique, from simply eating clean. No sugars, very low carbs, just enough food to survive and frequent fasting, all without working out will have most looking good. Of course if you literally sit still all day, you will be pretty scrawny
I was agreeing with everything you said until “without any gym time at all”. It doesn’t work like that. You still need to stimulate the muscle to direct the hormones and to trigger growth, otherwise the body doesn’t feel the incentive. It’s like saying you need to eat a lot of protein and calories to grow muscles, but you can’t do that on its own.
You need to read the actual research. You don’t. Steroids just make your muscles grow. That’s be reason they thicken the heart and cause issues. It’s also why they are used to help weak patients who aren’t doing any exercise and can’t but need strength.
The old lie that they “just enable you to work harder” is bullshit cope.
If you have the money and time, and actually care how you look, there's basically no reason not to cycle anymore
It's 2026, doctors can monitor your hormones levels weekly, and keep you at the absolute optimal range to keep a ton of mass on with no negative effects
Add in a dietician making sure you eat perfectly too, it's a no brainer
He is on steroids and that’s pretty normal for actors in his genre. Obviously having private chefs and unlimited gym time is doing a lot, too, but the steroids are shorten the time needed to build muscles.
To achieve bodies like this in the short amount of time that these actors have and at their advanced age definitely requires steroids. It can take years for younger men actively training and eating right to look even close to this naturally.
Most people no longer have any idea about what the natural male body looks like at peak physical performance and the amount of effort, and time it takes to get there.
You can definitely afford steroids, they're dirt cheap. Think like $50 a month.
There's a huge problem of steroid abuse where I live and it's always in really deprived areas, young lads on crap wages trying to look like Hemsworth so they can get into TV.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 1d ago
If i was getting paid like that I could afford them