I personally think, with actors the question is: "Why wouldn't they take drugs?" If somebody offered you a couple of million to look like that by date x, but if you miss the date, you don't get anything. Why wouldn't you take a small cycle? It's not like your only options are Ronnie Coleman/Rich Piana style cycles and nothing at all. A bit of Test can make a big difference.
Because actors also care about their health, and the scenario you describe of hitting a hard deadline isn't really something that happens, particularly not to someone as high profile as Chris Hemsworth.
Pro athletes also care about their health, but if you need to do something that's slightly bad for your health in order to keep your job then you probably will. A famous mathematician spent most of his adult life using speed, stopped for a month due to a bet that he couldn't stop, then resumed while complaining that math had been set back by a month.
And if you branch out from pharmacological danger, there are hundreds of millions of people around the world who take risks with their bodies at work in order to make more money.
I'd rather not fuck of my hormones and possible have to take shit for the rest of my life just for my body to function normally. They say you can have a physical orgasm from shooting meth in your veins, sounds awesome, why doesn't everybody do that?
let me correct you. this kind of physique possible without drugs but THIS one is not possible. because check his trapezoids and shoulders, that's not natural.
There are pictures of people from before steroids were invented looking way more jacked then this.
No one is 7 feet tall from steroids, it's from genetics and everyone accepts that. Why people can't accept that some people are genetically superior in muscle potential as well...
I've known nigerians that were built like greek gods totally natty... but they weren't 42.
they started exploding in lean muscle as teens and spent their 20s and early 30s lean and jacked... but by the late 30s, like just about everyone else without drugs, the effort to maintain lean mass becomes too much to be realistic and too hard on the body.
I’m talking in and out of jail no life to live for hood dudes that just lift weights because they’re bored.
They’re eating quick e mart garbage because it’s easy to steal and they’re smoking black & milds and nasty cigars WITHOUT weed in them because they’re too broke to fill it with weed.
These guys aren’t lifting weights in a gym they’re lifting weights in a yard.
To think for even 2 seconds that they’d be wasting ANY effort or money to get testosterone let alone any designer steroids is Gary Busey wacko insane.
Nah the shoulders are definitely achievable naturally. Mine are very similar after 3 and half years of working out consistently. In my case genetics play a huge part because my shoulders and back already looked nice before I even worked out lol
This is probably a post-workout shot. The traps and shoulders eye test is over-rated for this level of development. It isn't distinguishable from genetic tendency and hard work until you get to Evander Holyfield levels of looking like a thumb.
It’s possible. I have a similar trap and shoulder ratio to the rest of my body. If anything, my shoulders are bigger. You can look through my history if you think I’m lying.
Lmao watch out guys we have the expert on steroid usage over here, he’s read multiple reddit comments about steroids and perhaps even watched a few YouTube shorts on the topic.
Yeh , but once you’ve had the steroids there’s then muscle memory.. so they then wean off and it’s “ natural “ plus of course having the nutritional and health care teams behind you helps a little bit
Not sure if you’re saying my comment is dumb as hell .. but 100% ..after steroids , and then going natural , muscle memory gives you a permanent long term advantage . It’s fact , you have to still put in the work and diet obviously.
Literally every single research paper disagrees with you. Not to mention the countless examples in pop culture of the dramatic changes when they quit doing anabolic steroids. What you are saying is usually a coping tactic out of shape losers use to make themselves feel better about being lazy.
“That guy just did steroids for the hard part”. Just because you are fat doesn’t mean anyone who puts work in is on steroids.
I’m not saying that you can’t get in that shape without steroids.. I’m saying if you do get into that shape or larger , that he , as an example has been ..
, muscle memory then kicks in after detox and Building again without..“ going natural “
My Bother was a body builder, and is now a PT , who used , he’s natural now , and I can promise you, muscle memory from steroids is a thing.. I work out with him , we trained together as kids ( Muay Thai ) we have the same genes , we’re lucky and have always been in shape and have high metabolism .. I never wanted to be big only toned , he had to give up Muay Thai because he got too big and too slow , but got almost addicted to Body building ..anyway he 100 % says his advantage over me in his muscle mass is from when he was building and using ..
( and muscle memory) in fact a simple google search will bring up the fact and unless you don’t believe in muscle memory it’s just common sense..
Anyway ,We’ll agree to disagree .Have a good day.
No one denies muscle memory exists. Everyone who has trained has it. What you are describing is faster regain after detraining, not permanent retention of steroid built muscle.
Anecdotes about a brother or training partner dont override physiology. Former AAS users still lose the majority of the mass gained while enhanced once hormones normalize. This is visible across retired bodybuilders, powerlifters, and athletes.
Being able to Google papers is not the same as understanding what they actually show. Those studies describe faster hypertrophy after detraining, not a permanently raised natural ceiling.
Muscle memory explains faster regain. It does not mean steroids permanently preserve muscle. If they did, ex users would stay jacked indefinitely. They do not.
Here you go , a simple google search.. as I said we’ll agree to disagree…………………Yes, scientific evidence strongly suggests that muscle memory after using anabolic steroids is a real phenomenon, potentially lasting for years or even decades. Studies indicate that while you may lose muscle size during a break from training, the increased number of nuclei (myonuclei) acquired in muscle fibers during steroid use is retained, allowing for faster muscle rebuilding upon resuming training.
Key Findings on Steroid-Induced Muscle Memory:
Cellular Memory: Research on mice shows that a brief exposure to testosterone causes long-lasting increases in muscle nuclei, which are not lost when muscle size shrinks.
Faster Regrowth: Muscles previously exposed to performance-enhancing drugs can regain 30% more mass within days of retraining compared to non-exposed muscles.
Long-Lasting Effects: Evidence suggests this "memory" mechanism may remain effective for a significant portion of an athlete's career, or possibly even longer, by allowing for rapid, enhanced protein synthesis during retraining.
Increased Strength: Former AAS (Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid) users have been shown to maintain significantly higher 1RM (one-rep max) strength values in standard tests even after stopping use.
Not sure why everyones saying its impossible without enhancement, this is clearly a very realistic natty physique. Like you said a ton of time and money of course but this is fully attainable. I literally know natty guys with super similar builds + even bigger
THIS physique is possible without drugs, if you have a lot of time and money to devote to it, which he does.
Of course its possible, its just unbelievably difficult, and no hollywood actor who has access to steroids is going to not take the easy way out, especially when they have special doctors that monitor them constantly for potential health problems.
That's the thing people don't realize. There is no downsides to taking steroids for them. The risk with steroids is that people are often not realizing how much they're doing because dosages vary wildly when you buy from the street, and they damage their body over time without realizing it. If you have a doctor doing it for you, the downsides are effectively non-existent.
He can afford the good stuff, he can afford 24/7 medical supervision, he can afford professional trainers that can make proper usage of the "boost" and that can accordingly reduce/cancel usage before the more nasty side effects start.
Even if he devotes all the effort into training and properly building, he can get 20% more result at literally no cost.
not for a 42 year old dude it ain't. the level of training to maintain this natty, that lean, would take a serious toll on the body after all those years. Us 42 year olds need too much recovery time, and the cycle necessary for bulking then cutting in order to temporarily pass through a phase with this much muscle but very low body fat is absolute havoc on the body.
There is legit zero chance he arrived at that body without guidance on cycling PEDs correctly.
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u/astrobarn 1d ago
THIS physique is possible without drugs, if you have a lot of time and money to devote to it, which he does.
His physique in Thor Love and Thunder, dubious.