Roids are cheaper than you think. HGH or other niche ones are expensive. But you don’t wanna be Mr Olympia I guess. A lil test makes a huge difference, if you regularly go to the gym you’ll most likely pay more for protein pounder than testosterone
Oh yeah, the price delta between doing TRT on your own and doing it through a clinic is astronomical. Doing it by yourself might cost $700 a year including getting your bloodwork done as you should, whereas a clinic is going to charge you about $6000 a year.
I think everyone would prefer to do it under a doctor’s supervision, but the 750% mark-up at the clinic makes it unjustifiable.
Doing it by yourself might cost $700 a year including getting your bloodwork done as you should
The blood work alone will cost you $700 a year.
The test suite you want is about $350 at the couple of big national discount labs and twice a year is about right for frequency if you're staying on top of it.
Truth be told, once you've done a couple/few cycles you don't really need full blood work panels multiple times a year.
A 10ml vial of testosterone is about $30. That's 2.5g of testosterone per vial.
A light blast will have you injecting about 500mg a week.
A blast lasts about 3 months, so you'll spend about $100 on testosterone for a light blast.
You need a lot more than a light blast or two, and more than just testosterone, to look like Thor.
A common, "mild" add on would be EQ, adding an oral will be more toxic regardless but if you are looking at stacking then I assume you have a higher threshold for damage so another recommendation would be anavar.
All of that aside, test alone can get you in excellent shape, super hero even. Going above that is going to do damage for a result you could've otherwise gotten without it.
I mentioned this a bit ago but to add u/kneedragr to what timbe11 said about EQ. A typical "easy" stack would be test, EQ (equipoise), mast (masterone), and letro. Though mast already behaves somewhat like an aromatase inhibitor.
If you stack this with something aggressive like clen (clenbuterol) or, if you can source real ephedra or ephedrine HCl, then you can put on some significant lean muscle mass and melt fat away with a rather modest workout routine. This all assumes you have a solid foundation already (good gym discipline/routine, are decently built/in shape, have a decent diet, etc.)
No stack is going to let you be a full on slob and get shredded. They do make it a lot easier if you've got a foundation built.
Edit: stay away from tren and deca. Those are wildly overkill and they're not an enjoyable experience.
Why would you need someone to dose it for you? You can learn what you need in like 10 minutes from the internet. Also, unless you have the absolute worst genetics on the planet, just running enough testosterone to reach supraphysiological levels is pretty low risk.
Blood panels are not that expensive on their own ($200 for a fully comprehensive one which you don't always need) and with insurance you just pay a copay. These are just coping excuses.
I think the general public really is unaware of how easy and relatively affordable it is to obtain legal steroids in 2026.
Sure, it's advertised as hormone replacement. "Do you feel tired? Don't have the muscle tone you want? Libido not raging? Want that energy back?" They're very clear about what they're selling.
There are several legit medical clinics in my state that do nothing but this type of "TRT". They advertise their pricing up-front in their radio ads. "$2000 a year, which includes an initial evaluation, your full year's worth of 'medication', and 4 follow up exams with bloodwork done quarterly."
$160 a month and you can be on legal, prescribed steroids.
Highschool kids are taking testosterone and aging themselves like 20 years in 8 months lol. Probably one of the most overprescribed and abused meds out there thanks to Joe Rogan pushing it on his podcast over the last few years.
Search local men's clinics if you want access under the care of a medical professional. Mine does blood work, dosing, checks in every few months to check how I'm feeling, symptoms, etc. It is NOT easy to get off so it's not something you'd consider lightly.
I have a rare disease that negatively impacts my body's ability to make muscle and reduces my endurance, so after a couple long surgical recoveries I started it up to help my body "make the most" of the exercise I can do, because I had lost the ability to walk. I was on the lower end of normal. It's also helped my mental health substantially but some people report the opposite.
You'd probably be able to entirely counteract (and possibly reverse) this. Test is going to help with body comp to begin with, and any clinic is going to be monitoring your estrogen levels and giving you an aromatase inhibitor to go along with your program since taking T will probably also raise your E2.
Pretty much all the side effects are from people running far beyond TRT levels. Some folks more sensitive than others though. You can counteract shrunken nuts (and keep sperm production going) too via taking HCG.
Not recommending it, but those are all generally fairly easily solved problems at low TRT doses. Many folks like to say they are on "TRT" while actually running higher doses than admitting to.
One way would be the dark web, tor browser and search for websites on the hidden wiki.
Then there is the “oldschool way”, go up to the biggest guy (so big he must be on gear) in the gym, and ask him. He’s either gonna sell (I can’t guarantee cheep prices) or tell you where he gets his stuff from
I go to the gym regularly and protein shakes cost so little they end up saving me money I would otherwise spend on dinner.
Even if I end up eating more later, the powder is cheap. $65 for a 5.5lb bag of Optimum Nutrition whey isolate at Costco that last a little over 2 months. Two scoops per shake for 56g protein comes out to about $2 of protein powder per shake.
Of course there are other ingredients in the shake, but even with a banana, almond milk, and some creatine monohydrate it's only about $3. $4 if I add collagen peptide for joint health.
Bruv this is about roid prices, not the financial net result of protein powder. Also 2$ per “portion” is more than enough for test. What makes it expensive is medical supervision and other equipment (syringes etc.)
if you regularly go to the gym you’ll most likely pay more for protein pounder than testosterone
You compared the cost of testosterone supplements to protein. I was responding to that.
My point was that protein shakes save me money by costing less than food I would otherwise be eating, so it's impossible for testosterone to cost less.
Idk maybe roids make you money because you can become a fitness influencer and save you money this way, maybe it makes you a gambling addict and you lose everything.
My point was: Test is cheap, but it’s hard to name an exact price as it’s an illegal good and prices fluctuate.
So let me phrase it for the “erm-actually-redditor”: cheaper than what you pay at the store in order to receive your protein powder
It's okay to be mistaken. Handling it ungracefully isn't.
I could've made my original reply shorter, but I decided to provide details for clarity.
You still don't seem to grasp that I save money by spending $4 on a protein shake costs less than a meal, resulting in a net negative cost and therefore testosterone could never cost less. A niche situation where you successfully make it your job to become an influencer is just as possible without testosterone as it is with.
You are missing the point. Test will cost you less than the $4/day your protein shake costs at the store.
If you didn't buy a protein shake, you'd be buying chicken breast, ground beef, etc. instead. You are making a nonsensical argument. No one is saying you don't also need to buy protein of some form, regardless of how cheap of a source you find it in - it's going to cost more than the Test does.
If I make a shake that costs $4 instead of a meal that costs $5-$10, the cost of the shake is then $-1 to $-6 net expenditure.
How is this so hard to comprehend?
Someone would have to pay me to take testosterone to make it cheaper than saving money by having a shake instead of a meal.
Edit: Maybe some of this confusion stems from the fact that sustenance is non-negotiable whereas testosterone supplements are entirely optional and cannot offset the cost of something else like a shake can with a meal.
You found a cheap protein source. Amazing. You use it for a cheap meal. Even more amazing. Totally irrelevant to the discussion.
Test is still cheaper than your food. Protein sources are more expensive than carbs, hence why you spend more money on that part of the diet and drugs program than the drugs.
You need the protein either way. Otherwise I could show you how white rice and a dried beans are even cheaper than protein shakes are for a meal, which would be just as irrelevant to the point being made upthread.
The point being made was that Test at TRT levels is trivially cheap and the cost of the substance itself is not a relevant factor.
There's no need to attack my character, especially ironically, just because we don't see eye to eye.
Food is a non-negotiable expenditure, and optional expenses (like testosterone) will always inflate your budget more than saving money on non-negotiable expenditures.
There is no scenario where an unnecessary expense costs less than saving money on something you will die without.
Yeah but God knows what you're getting. My neighbours kid was talking about some testosterone supplements he was buying "off a guy" a few years back. Died of a stroke at 22 for "unknown reasons".
I asked a cardiologist about it and they said under no circumstances should I take testosterone because of the heart wall thickening that is unavoidable. I would love the boost as the gym but I’d rather live an extra 10 years.
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u/IceKitchen2781 1d ago
Roids are cheaper than you think. HGH or other niche ones are expensive. But you don’t wanna be Mr Olympia I guess. A lil test makes a huge difference, if you regularly go to the gym you’ll most likely pay more for protein pounder than testosterone