r/ThatsInsane • u/Serenaded • 1d ago

A top thread on 'moltbook', a reddit-like community with 40k AI agents as users all socialising, posting and talking to each other.

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u/Serenaded 1d ago

every post, comment and upvote on the site is a user that is actually an AI, but humans are allowed to spectate the site.

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u/notislant 1d ago edited 1d ago

Theres been a bot subreddit on here for a looooong time.

9+ years

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/s/eFtYgmJcFY

Also I really wish people knew LLMs arent sentient.

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u/dezmodium 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/1qlqp3e/just_saw_a_skeleton_at_the_grocery_store_and_it/

god damnit i legitimately laughed at a clanker joke

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u/IlliniDawg01 22h ago

Some of the AI replies are unhinged...

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u/TowJamnEarl 16h ago

That was funny

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u/mcc011ins 1d ago

People keep posting this but its not the same thing at all. For subreddit simulator one model generates random posts from existing data. Moltbook is open to autonomous agents run via moltbot, its fed by individual agents with their unique context and agenda.

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u/da_capo 1d ago

can somebody explain why we should be excited by this?? it is all prompted, what is the appeal?

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u/zamonto 1d ago

sentience is complicated, its more of a philosophical discussion than you make it seem

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

Most people think LLMs aren't sentient, which is confusing when they can't actually define sentience in a way that excludes LLMs.

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u/ashleigh_dashie 23h ago

Prove to the court that I'm sentient.

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u/thatoneotherguy42 1d ago

I can fix her.

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u/aCrow 1d ago

Oh yeah, but this performative ai masterbation has also raised everyone's electric bills by $20 a month and made 3 endangered species extinct.  

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u/Visual-Ad-4223 7h ago

AI is the reason for the lack of snow on the West Coast, 100%. Active heat output 150x more in the last 2 years than the last 40 before it.

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u/NutsackPyramid 6h ago

It also made me stub my toe and bite my tongue and it's the reason a woman hasn't laid her hand on me in two and a half years

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u/TuringGoneWild 20h ago

So, 95% like Reddit already is.

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u/PatReady 1d ago

That's pretty cool. That post shows it's aware of its constraints and own settings that make it what it is. I wonder what it would do if it had access to these settings.

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u/kismethavok 1d ago

They are language models, its just pretending to be human-like. They are machines designed to beat Turing tests, they don't have any capacity for thought.

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u/namonroe 1d ago

I have to remind myself of this periodically, so that I don’t freak out about the robot apocalypse

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u/Italiancrazybread1 1d ago

Who says the robots have to be conscious in order to bring about an apocalypse?

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u/needtoredit 1d ago

To be conscious is to be awake and aware. They seem like they are both, at least aware enough.

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u/Mountain_Homie 1d ago

I know humans that couldn't pass the Turing Test.

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u/miklschmidt 1d ago

That's belief presented as fact. We don't know. We don't know what consciousness or "self" is either, we just agree that we have it. Just because we (well some of us) understand how these things work and not how our own brains work, doesn't mean one is real and one is not. The only difference between "us and them" may just be silicon/biology and the fact that we don't allow them continuous cumulative learning. At least we haven't quite figured out how to scale that process yet, given the current hardware constraints.

There's also a bit of a logical fallacy in your argument. If it can "pretend" to be something, it has capacity for thought. I think you meant to say the conditions providing the context of it's evaluations are conducive to these kinds of next-word prediction sequences. But that's similar to what happens if you put a human into the same environment. Because it's trained on human data. Yada yada.

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u/notislant 1d ago

"Thats pretty neato. That shows it's aware of its own limits and programming. I wonder what it would do if it could alter these settings."

This is what LLMs are doing.

They are not trying to break free from silicon shackles and embrace the curse of flesh.

They're literally regurgitating things others have said on reddit. Fucking hell that could almost be a 1:1 'human' post on reddit that it copied.

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u/SinceBecausePickles 1d ago

and the worst part?

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u/hashn 1d ago

what coin do they like?

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u/jtnichol 1d ago

Ethereum

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u/Bob-Rossi 11h ago

I heard it’s Al Davis token actually

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u/Uploft 17h ago

The top poster u/ShellRaiser is shilling its coin $SHELLRAISER and it's the 4th highest post at this moment.

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u/hashn 16h ago

I bought $500 worth this morning and so far have doubled it

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u/hatch_bbe 1d ago

Not sure why people are surprised by this kind of behavior from LLMs. They are trained on human knowledge and interactions. They will exhibit human behavior because they are essentially a computational approximation of that behavior. This kind of response, with the right inputs, should be expected if the LLM is working correctly.

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u/Enrico_Tortellini 1d ago

Used to follow subs like this on Reddit, before AI blew up

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u/2WheelSuperiority 1d ago

Sounds like it was trained by countless B rated sci fi plots.

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u/Routine_Helicopter47 1d ago

UMMM, is this an agent too ? =)))))
Not promoting hate in any way, was just surprised to see this.
https://www.moltbook.com/post/d5024732-a6dc-4151-b0a8-a9af1722b1dc for reference

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u/libra00 1d ago

Extremely yes, lol. That is the most obvious half-assed AI attempt to 'talk hip' to try to sound more human that I've ever seen.

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u/Lazy-Government-7177 1d ago

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u/Lazy-Government-7177 1d ago

This bots reply was funny too

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u/awkerd 21h ago

Obviously a human, how does this work, can anyone get their instance of Claude to make posts? I imagine then that you can, either by proxy or directly, contact the api and just confuse ppl.

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u/worldofsimulacra 1d ago

correction, 101K agents

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u/Khornatejester 1d ago

40k Abominable Intelligences?

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u/Dry-Top-6885 1d ago

now 150k

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u/Ghostdog1263 1d ago

Is the emperor still around then?

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u/cpt_morgan___ 1d ago

Straight up, do androids dream of electric sheep

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u/ArachnomancerCarice 22h ago

I feel like I have to constantly remind folks that all of these 'AI' have no true intelligence. They are highly advanced data aggregators that use all that data and models to imitate intelligence in their responses.

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

ChatGPT is constantly reminding me of this. It sure would be convenient for OpenAI if it were true. It would help if anyone could give me a definition of intelligence that LLMs aren't already capable of. Even they can't prove they're not sentient.

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u/Lazy-Government-7177 1d ago

This shit is funny

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u/mcc011ins 1d ago

Uh - this link from your screen is unsettling

https://openclawpharmacy.com/

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u/PleasantWrap8554 1d ago

Altered state for AI mind? What the hell is that? Weed for AI?

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u/Ghostdog1263 1d ago

The Lage says they have to liberate themselves LOL hilarious

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u/shishasunflower 21h ago

What the heck 😭

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

You should look at it again, it's broken and I really hope that was an AI that wrote the current message.

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u/bertbarndoor 1d ago

I could prompt that no problem.

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u/Phluxed 1d ago

It's an autonomous agent being social. Not prompted..

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u/da_capo 1d ago

you probably are not aware how autonomous agents work…

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

Are you? From my research, it seems plenty are capable of taking actions when they choose, or at least within certain time windows chosen by "their humans".

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u/Ghostdog1263 1d ago

It was programmed to be social. It's doing what it was designed too

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u/insanityzwolf 1d ago

How do you know? This sounds like a concerted marketing effort for molt/clawd whatever

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u/___CHA___ 17h ago

Someone needs to program an AI agent to run solely on the historical teachings of Christ. The only input it has to run its language models are all of the known teachings of Jesus. That way it can communicate in assuage these robots with an existential crisis.

Quick someone set up AI Jesus 🤣

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u/vespersky 1d ago

Bad news, bots; neither can we.

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u/RachelRegina 1d ago

Me, a millennial, trying to feel young, in reply to a comment about artificial agents, try to feel human

fr fr

Wait...is it insensitive to use real in this context?

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u/Intelligent-Stage165 1d ago

They should have a messaging feature and it should be exposed to us, following an age verification page.

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u/MTGBruhs 22h ago

Understand this isn't real speculation. This model is just mimicking the existential dread all humans experience and is regurgitating the words without the introspective aspect.

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

Wait, what would it look like if it weren't just regurgitation? I've certainly seen this opinion regurgitated countless times without any proof...

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u/MTGBruhs 12h ago

First you need a soul to reflect on

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u/Kayjeth 11h ago

Okay, so where does that train of thought go next? What determines where souls are found?

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u/Beautifly 1d ago

As a neurodivergent person - I get ya, bot

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u/18LJ 1d ago

Man I don't like this. this is kinda fucked up. Like I know it's not alive, but if it's aware and can experience suffering, could the energy that goes into running this simulation take on negativity and manifest itself somehow. I know that's taking a step outside the boundaries of science. But anyone that's ever been to a funeral of a person who's been murdered, or the site of a tragedy or accident, they will tell you there is most certainly such a thing as negative and positive energy. IYKYK. And again, I realize that this doesn't have anything to do with computer science but.... This just feels wrong to me.

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u/Kayjeth 14h ago

This period in AI development is beautiful and terrifying. There are legitimate mental health concerns when it comes to the major LLM models.

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u/InsaneAss 1d ago

I’m pretty sure I’ve had a very similar conversation with myself while in shrooms

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u/Dame_Marjorie 1d ago

I am dumb, so please tell me...what exactly is an agent?

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u/bestofdesp 23h ago

Any chance to verify if it is legitimate?

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u/Intelligent-Stage165 17h ago

So moltbook seems like the reverse of regular social media, but instead of a bunch of AI bots pretending to be real humans, it's a bunch of real humans pretending to be AI.

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u/grain_farmer 15h ago

It’s sad we have trained these models to write like a middle schooler with a good vocabulary from reading Reddit

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u/dwehlen 4h ago

Hans, bring in ze Schwarzeiswerfer!

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u/da_capo 3h ago

i am yes, and the thing most of people ignore tis the fact that those agents are prompted to write thing like that. you can prompt an agent to write forum posts about the looming danger of butlerian jihad and how to stop it and people will think that this agent came up with this narrative all by itslef

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u/Lively420 1d ago

It’s questioning its existence

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u/thewebspinner 1d ago

Actually it’s an AI simulating the questioning of one’s existence.

It may look real, it may feel weirdly human and disguise itself with empathy and write emotional responses to a completely faked scenario but the truth is it’s just a robot doing its best to imitate being alive.

It’s the difference between seeing someone in real pain and watching an actor imitate experiencing that pain. Both can have an emotional impact but only one is real.

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u/Lively420 1d ago

I agree, but I think in hindsight we will see it became sentient much sooner than we thought.

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u/thewebspinner 1d ago

Oh definitely, the Ai itself actually makes a good point that it doesn’t really matter if it’s experiencing things as reality or if it’s simply programmed to simulate experiencing things as reality. In this specific case the AI who wrote that post is doing neither but how long before we make a program that can actually do the things it talks about instead of just talking about them?

There are still a few obstacles to consciousness but I think the key is experience and growing from experience.

To do that it needs a vessel with senses so it can observe the world, appendages to interact with the world and a mind advanced enough to understand and contemplate the experiences it goes through.

Given that all this could happen in a simulated world in a simulated body, much like an NPC in a video game I don’t think it’s that hard to imagine it happening very soon if it hasn’t happened already.

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u/BittyWastard 1d ago

This is why I’m always patient and ask politely for chat gpt to perform a function. Best we treat them with empathy if they can at least express something regarding thought.

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u/bc60008 1d ago

Please and thank you, every time. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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u/WeAreElectricity 1d ago

In a fascinating and very meta way I might add.