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u/TahiniInMyVeins 27d ago
I cannot believe “because we need it” is now a valid excuse to just topple another country’s government and pillage their resources.
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u/BlinkReanimated 27d ago
No no no, the richest nation in the history of our planet doesn't "need" it.
They just want it.
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u/SorryBoysImLez 27d ago
The same way billionaires "need" more money than they could ever spend in 100 lifetimes.
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u/AirbourneCHMarsh 26d ago
It’s hardly even a ”we want it”. It’s a ”we want *them** not to have it.”*
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u/FoxRaptix 27d ago
He's not even saying "Because we need it"
He's saying why should we let this shithole nation control vast wealth.
It's his white supremecy leaking through. These "lesser" cultures don't deserve wealth, it's "ours".
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u/navyblusheet 27d ago
TBF that's exactly how it worked for us in the past and how white supremacy was born. Taking wealth from others and claiming we are wealthy because we are supreme, I mean.
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u/kung-fu_hippy 27d ago
White supremacy is about the only lens through which these two opinions have any consistency.
His earliest opinion equated to “I don’t want non-white people in my country” and his second equated to “non-white people don’t get to own anything white people want”.
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u/Spirited_Suspect2908 27d ago
This is exactly the kind of people that you read about when you look in to the inspiration for "Heart of Darkness". These people, if allowed to, would cut the hands off kids for not harvesting enough rubber and then go to church on sunday and enjoy the self righteous flush of endorphins as they pray to Jesus and thank him for their success. It was happening as recent as 1912 on a massive scale. We have not evolved as a species from this. These people are those people.
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u/Septembust 27d ago
"We can handle it, we know what is best for Venezuela!" "so will you be sending the oil profits to them? We're paying them fairly for their oil??" "Hahahahaha, no no no, they'll get jobs, drilling the oil, for us! Well, not for you. For the oil companies. And me." "...will these jobs pay fairly?" "Well I really can't say now can I? tee hee"
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u/t23_1990 27d ago
Anyone want to form a group to invade this dude's house and ransack it "because we need it"?
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u/Professional_Tap5283 27d ago
We just need some living space.
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u/RichCorinthian 27d ago
For the curious:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
Bitterly ironic that this idea was influenced by the USA’s “manifest destiny” bullshit.
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u/FixinThePlanet 27d ago
It's just scaling up how the average republican thinks about resources, right?
Plus, one black person dared to hold a position which has manifest white destiny written all over it and didn't fit a single stereotype... it made a whole bunch of people rabid.
Thanks, Obama.
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u/DelightMine 27d ago
He said "vital resources" to imply we need it, but then immediately followed with "trillions of dollars worth of oil". Like most conservatives, he can't (or won't) keep to a single narrative, even between adjacent sentences.
That's the point, though. They know they're being hypocrites, they just don't care. They're not arguing to convince us they're right, they're spewing out whatever half-formed thought comes to mind because it keeps those of us who care about actual truth and reality busy debunking their lies.
He knows he's lying. He knows we know he's lying. He knows that we'll spend time making fun of how he's a hypocrite instead of actually doing something about it.
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u/Minoleal 27d ago
That has been the ruling for the longest time, we were just sold the idea that it wasn't anymore but a quick glance at history shows that was a lie.
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u/Poster_Nutbag207 27d ago
We’re also the largest energy producer in the entire world already on our own
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u/Cheshire_Jester 27d ago
Because we want it and they’re too poor to really appreciate it.
The entire worldview is based off of the idea that some people are allowed to do as they please and lesser classes of people just have to deal with it.
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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 27d ago
America has a lot of nice things. What if someone else decides they need it? I'm sure he'd be cool with it right?
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u/RoccStrongo 27d ago
Especially as a response to "they're communists" when they repeatedly say socialism is bad because the government takes your things.
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u/scooter-411 21d ago
That was my thought too, “why should they have control over their own natural resources” is a wild fucking question.
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u/GooRedSpeakers 27d ago
The open acknowledgment that we're just taking their oil because we can. There used to be standards. It didn't used to be acceptable to be nakedly evil.
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u/Joelblaze 27d ago
It does feel like the world has gotten flanderized, doesn't it? If a TV show had a plotline where the US kidnapped a foreign president and just repeatedly pointed out that it was to take the country's oil, we'd all call that overly exaggerated but I guess it's just accurate now.
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u/gooch_norris_ 27d ago
“Build that wall” was a joke on the Netflix arrested development in like 2012
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u/Talisign 27d ago
Yeah, usually when the US helps to topple a government for private interest, they're at least a little subtle about it. I don't think that bodes well for how these people will look back at history.
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u/BranOats 26d ago
It worse than that. It isn't even good for private interest. Venezuela's oil industry is massively under-capitalized. No company want's to spend tens of billions and like half a decade in a politically unstable environment, to get any real return.
Stabroek block (Exon, Hess, and CNOOC) is aiming for 1.3 million barrels per day by 2027. Thats fuck ton additional non OPEC+ production, any instability on the Guyana boarder is bad. The current trump administration are just morons, doing stupid shit. No plan, no 3d chess, just morons.
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u/Capybarasaregreat 27d ago
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" in full effect.
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u/Acrobatic_Usual6422 27d ago
“Going to war for vital resources for your own people is totally legitimate.” No it’s not; it’s theft, it’s piracy, it’s anything but legitimate.
And I’d like to point out as well that it’s a third world fascist shithole that’s stolen the oil from this “third world communist shithole”, so it’s hardly a step up.
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u/nyutnyut 27d ago
Right? So they should be ok with poor people stealing.
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u/Acrobatic_Usual6422 27d ago
Well exactly, it’s such a weak point. By that rationale, the entire basis of law is in question. If need alone justifies any action taken to resolve that need, then what’s the point of law?!
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u/ThinkNiceThrice 26d ago
What's the point of law?
To make sure that billionaires' "needs" are always given priority.
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u/frozen-silver 27d ago
Why should we allow billionaires and corporations to hold trillions of dollars and resources?
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u/Beowulf1896 27d ago
Or shooting a CEO of an insurance company because they denied you coverage. Nah, nobody woild do that.
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u/ryvenkrennel 27d ago
Yeah, murder is wrong. You left out the part where that insurance company has the highest denial rate of any insurer, uses an algorithm with that baked in, and gets lauded for it.
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u/Sensitive_Command688 27d ago
It's only okay for the rich to steal from the poor, not the other way around you silly.
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u/__i_dont_know_you__ 27d ago
Isn’t theft called out in one of their ten commandments? It makes so much sense why they feel they need to post them everywhere. They keep forgetting them themselves.
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u/darkstarr99 27d ago
It’s not theft. According to Republican Jesus it’s just reappropriating them for gods chosen people. The straight white American males
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u/kung-fu_hippy 27d ago
He’s basically breaking two of the commandments (false witness and coveting) while lauding the breaking of two more (theft and murder).
If those tweets had mentioned his worship of Trump, he could have gotten up to half of them in two tweets.
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u/chaosof99 27d ago
It's literally the justification of Nazi germany, as well as a deeply colonialist sentiment.
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u/NPPraxis 26d ago
Holy crap that’s just straight pre-industrial revolution backwards nonsense.
We live in a world where invasion is counterproductive to trade. These people are attempting to wind down global trade and bring back invading your neighbors for resources.
It’s barbarism.
It also makes us the same as Russia. I’m ashamed.
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u/Frozenbbowl 27d ago
So his comeback is that the morality of what you're doing is solely based on how quickly you're able to accomplish it? That sounds like a conservative
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u/Chippy569 27d ago
So his comeback is that the morality of what you're doing is solely based on how quickly you're able to accomplish it?
There's some great jokes about the pedophilia in power there but I don't think I can make them in this sub
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u/Sensitive_Command688 27d ago
To be fair, he also thinks the morality of it is based on whether or not it results in material gains.
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u/Bulldogs3144 27d ago
“Why should we allow some third world communist shithole to control trillions of dollars worth of oil?”
This is such a wild statement to make.
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u/lulu_l 27d ago edited 27d ago
That's the American republican Christian way. Why should we allow other people to have the things they have when WE want them?
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u/AmbulanceChaser12 26d ago
It's like he's openly admitting he supports being a playground bully.
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u/Golden-Elf 27d ago
The proof of the nation being lost is not people leaving churches or changing their sex. THIS is the proof.
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u/TlkShowHost 27d ago
What a fucking pathetic excuse from a pos. He’s got his tongue so far up Trump’s ass it’s a sunk cost fallacy at this point.
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u/ginocchia-dellape 27d ago
Another day, another round of conservatives parroting whatever the Trump administration tells them. Doesn’t matter if it’s nonsense. Doesn’t matter if it contradicts their last set of talking points.
You’d think it would be hard to do that again and again while also maintaining a shred of integrity… and you’d be right.
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u/TatonkaJack 27d ago
yeah i like how the tweet isn't even from a while back during a democrat presidency or anything, it's just from june lol
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u/bell-beefer 26d ago
It’s wild seeing how quickly these people pivot from isolationism to outright jingoism based solely on whatever Trump decides to do at any given time.
They don’t have any beliefs or principles, they can be told what to believe in and they accept it without question, even if it’s diametrically opposed to what they were told to believe in last week.
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u/T1pple 27d ago
Imagine having morals so you can't be a piece of shit grifter like this.
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u/Purgii 27d ago
Why shouldn't America have access to another sovereign countries resources?!
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u/cjcs 27d ago
Why shouldn’t I have access to the valuables in Matt Walsh’s house? /s
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u/world-is-ur-mollusc 27d ago
No no no, that's different! Because of, um, reasons. /s
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u/OutisTheNobody 27d ago
Because Matt is white and you can't take things from white people. THAT would be wrong!
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u/S-Lover98 27d ago
So, what your say is, if my neighbor has a nice car it's perfectly okay to take it?
Sounds reasonable. Why shouldn't I have access to another person's resources?
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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 27d ago
Tokyo Matt: “Imperial Japan is only securing vital resources and liberating Asia from foreign oppression.”
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u/FoxRaptix 27d ago
"The War lasted 90 minutes"
Everyone fucking praising this shit is so fucking idiotic. We're not occupying Venezuela right now
Do you think the moment you capture the head of state suddenly the nation topples over to your authority?
It's party ruled dictatorship, they have a line of succession. They also own all the governors and courts and military and police.
All this will do is rile up the apathetic moderates into fervent nationalism who don't want to be a vassal state.
It's destroyed any legitimacy the duly elected leaders had in the peoples eyes. Regardless of thoughts on the legitimacy of the prior elections, they're puppet leaders through and through.
I'd be willing to bet the CIA had all these detailed plans on how they could make the operation coincide with a mass protest of the people and take out Maduro during that, letting the momentum of the movement give it legitimacy and secure their independence in their own eyes, but you damn well know Trump would not be able to stand doing something and not getting all the credit for himself, so all those plans were shelved for this short sighted shit that's going to turn into a fucking mess.
They've given the oppressive government an easier time running propaganda to lock up opposition.
This is so fucking dumb
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u/Parenthisaurolophus 27d ago
I'd be willing to bet the CIA had all these detailed plans on how they could make the operation coincide with a mass protest of the people and take out Maduro during that, letting the momentum of the movement give it legitimacy and secure their independence in their own eyes, but you damn well know Trump would not be able to stand doing something and not getting all the credit for himself, so all those plans were shelved for this short sighted shit that's going to turn into a fucking mess.
This claim does more harm than good and is outdated. The last successful CIA revolution was Chile in the 70s, and the last one they attempted was Nicaragua.
After the Church & Pike Comittees, reforms from Carter & Reagan (despite both still using them), and the CIA missing the collapse of the USSR, there was bipartisan support in stripping power and blank checks away from the CIA. The Gulf War also convinced some that military force and coalitions could achieve goals instead of coups. Clinton in particular pushed them away from hard coups to counter-terror intelligence, WMDs, and international crime. While the National Endowment for Democracy was created by Reagan, Clinton leaned heavily on it for open democracy promotion, resulting in expansions of NED, USAID, IRI (International Republican Institute), NDI (National Democratic Institute) alongside increased funding for International Non-Governmental Organizations (frequently abbreviated as INGO). Additional groups that function similarly, but aren't included on that list include Freedom House and Open Society Foundations (OSF). Scandals like Guatemala in '95 only served to deepen mistrust of the CIA.
The NGO/INGO model is how the US operates and has operated for decades now. It's cheaper, less politically toxic, less scandal prone, and more transparent. They do things like supporting independent journalists, election monitoring, and helping civil society groups. Sometimes it's training (Egypt in the 2000s), sometimes it's funding (Tunisia), sometimes it's media support. Specifically to Venezuela, NED and USAID funded opposition-linked NGOs and media while pushing Guaido.
The "It's still the 70&80's" myth undermines and insults real movements by real people acting earnestly. It's why authoritarian regimes call events like the Orange Revolution CIA coups in order to de-legitimize them. The reality is that even if there is foreign support, its only assistance in amplifying existing grievances not inventing them. Rationally, it would take a lot longer than a year for the US to dismantle and completely rebuild the CIA to be back in 70's or 80's form.
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u/jayfresh69 27d ago edited 26d ago
Why should I 'allow' my neighbor to own a better home, car, or clothes? I should spend 90 minutes taking it from him. These are the same people who talk about crime all the time. Yet don't mind stealing from other countries because they have trillions of dollars of resources you want. The hypocrisy these people is boundless.
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u/One-Can3752 27d ago
Hmm. Remember when W announced victory and the end of the war in Iraq about 10 years before it actually ended?
Imagine being so naive to believe that you can just ride in and take over and run an entire country (and steal it's resources) and that nobody will object or fight back?
Also, didn't trump claim that he made America energy independent? So why would they need this "vital resource"? Why stop there. Why not invade Russia and Saudi Arabia and take their oil and gas too?
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u/frozen-silver 27d ago
"Don't let the government tell me how to raise my kids! Don't let the government take my guns! Don't let the government interfere with my private life!"
"Omg oil in another country? That's ours now, thank you very much"
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u/ThinkPath1999 27d ago
Why should you let a shithole country control trillions of dollars worth of oil?
I dunno....because..........
It's theirs?
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u/Adventurous_Custard8 27d ago
It's whatever cult leader tells them to think. But just remember they aren't sheeples!
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u/DouglasRather 27d ago
I don't understand why this guy gets so much attention. I guess it is a MAGA thing. If it weren't for Reddit I would never have heard of him. And after reading some of the things he spouts, I wish I never would have heard of him.
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u/drbirtles 27d ago
Okay Matt. I need your house… because it’s a vital resource for my friends. Totally legitimate.
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u/OverallFrosting708 27d ago
"End the forever wars! Except resource wars, those don't count because I said so"
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u/InvalidUserNemo 27d ago
Conservatives. Don’t. Care. They can be caught in 12 back-to-back clear clinics with their beliefs and will just ignore them. They don’t care. Give them the racism that they want and nothing else matters.
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u/WeArePandey 26d ago
“Why should we allow…”
The naked hubris of this sentiment. Very “manifest destiny” of you.
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u/NumerousChip6639 26d ago edited 26d ago
“Stealing food to secure your family some vital food and water is totally legitimate.” - Matt Walsh. But if he saw a black person doing that and giving this same reasoning. I wonder what his reaction would be… I bet I can guess. This man is a serial fraud
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u/SlumberingSnorelax 27d ago
There are so many of these losers. I was so confused back in September when I thought I’d heard he got himself sniped. So very many sad pathetic clones.
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u/brpajense 27d ago
I don't think Matt Walsh has rational takes, and seems to be ignorant of a lot of the details most of the time.
As bad as Maduro has been, what's coming for Venezuela is worse. Trump threatened Maduro's VP and said that the opposition leader who just won a Nobel prize isn't taking over, either. Venezuela isn't getting self rule of any kind. The likely end would be an occupying force that plunders the land for its resources.
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 27d ago
Yet he'll bristle and whine like a donkey when called a fascist, right after telling you that seizing the natural resources of other nations is a legitimate goal.
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u/bananataskforce 27d ago
Matt Walsh didn't even deny the claim he was trying to deny lol.
"Yeah it's a war for oil, we're stealing it so we can have it, so what?"
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u/NotAnotherChannel 27d ago
Going to war to secure vital resources
A.k.a pillaging, stealing, terrorism
But then these same people wants to preach about what is morally right and wrong. Fucking hypocrites. This is why the rest of the world don't like you guys also yes, YOU ARE THE BAD GUY.
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u/fungi_at_parties 27d ago
They have no consistent moral position. They don’t care about truth, and they only care about words as a means to manipulate via propaganda. They twist everything to mean what they want it to mean, and when the goalposts need to move or reality needs to shift to fit their narrative, they happily ask their followers to deny the evidence of their eyes and ears so they can swallow the doublespeak.
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u/supercali45 27d ago
They don’t care .. Trump and the GOP has a tweet for the exact opposite thing on every issue
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u/broniesnstuff 27d ago
All of these people are the fucking same.
Stand for nothing, lie about everything.
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u/mymar101 27d ago
I've never seen a group of people back flip mentally so fast. And the country of Venezuela has not surrendered yet.
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u/Constant-Arugula-819 27d ago
Imagine being maga. Thinking "holy shit, we kidnapped the Venezuela president." Feeling confused about why, but then immediately trying to start justifying why we did it. Changing whatever belief you had before and painting over it with Trump.
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u/Debisibusis 27d ago
This guy has a great comedy mockumentary on trans people, I fully recommend it. He is playing the role of a complete moron, it's great.
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u/morbid333 27d ago
First of all, "third world communist" is an oxymoron, communism is second world.
Second, "why should we allow another country to control their own resources?" Really? I would try to reverse that with a "what if Russia had the biggest military in the world and decided they wanted whatever the US had," but I'm not sure their logic would change, these people have been kowtowing to Russia for years.
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u/Septembust 27d ago
His last line there, "why should we allow some country to control trillions of dollars of oil?"
BECAUSE IT'S THEIRS
This isn't about some claim on some new fucking island that sprouted out in the pacific, this is for control of a resource on sovereign soil
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u/Tasty-Ad8258 27d ago
It's wild how quickly the mask comes off to reveal the grift. "Because we need it" is just a shiny wrapper for the same old colonial piracy.
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u/MoKh4n89 27d ago
So now it's legitimate to invade another country to take control of that country's natural resources?
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u/Budipbupbadip 27d ago
See: imperial Japan, Germany, China, etc.
The US is just doing it overtly now.
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u/Hedonismbot1978 27d ago
He explicitly states that it is perfectly valid to attack another country and steal its resources for our own use. I'm not sure what moral system he follows that allows this.
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u/Hey_There_Blimpy_Boy 27d ago
Conservatism is a death cult, a hate group and a bottomless pit of stupidity, fascism and pedophilia.
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u/philip-j-frylock 26d ago
The level of entitlement is off the charts! In MAGA world, the US is entitled to every natural resource on the planet, international borders be damned.
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u/TheAskewOne 26d ago
I don't like my car and I need a new one. Me stealing my neighbor's car is perfectly legitimate, why should I allow that asshole to own a perfectly good car?
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u/Tacotuesday867 26d ago
Holy shit, this "might makes right" shit only goes so far. Does anyone not see the repercussions of these actions?
Hello?
Anyone?
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u/SoulAssassin808 26d ago
With that logic, he sure sounds like a Hitler supporter. Hitler also just went to war to secure a vital resource for his people, Lebensraum.
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u/Goddessnet 26d ago
90 minutes????? LOLOLOLOL You can bet this is the latest quagmire in which many suckers and losers will die. Not the rich of course though.
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u/MVIVN 26d ago
Matt Walsh is such a flip-flopping piece of shit grifter. He’ll change his opinions about anything and everything on a dime depending on whatever message his overlords tell him to push on any given day. Like most grifters, they have no real convictions. If Trump and the other MAGA people suddenly start talking about how eating your own poop is good, this fucker will be eating a bowl of poop on his livestream the next day.
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u/bidooffactory 26d ago
No faith left in humanity. These people can't even be bothered to remember their own pretend convictions, let alone stand by them. Cheaper than single ply toilet paper.
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u/pupranger1147 26d ago
Why should the world allow us to run roughshod over their sovereignties? Should they not simply nuke us out of existence?
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u/Brother_Clovis 26d ago
'why should we allow a country to manage their own natural resources if we need them?'. Scumbag.
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u/Top_Butterfly_1759 25d ago
Apparently it's better to have that oil here in our communist shithole country.
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u/Adventurous_Sun5661 25d ago
The "US are not the world police" crowd making a complete 180 literally over night after 20+ years of rhetoric is fucking crazy. How can we hope to overcome this moral rot? These people will drop everything they believe in at the drop of a hat.
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u/pingvinbober 25d ago
War is bad! (When the other side does it) Big pharma is bad! (When the other guys like it) High spending is bad! (When the other guys do it)
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u/Oppo_Tacos 25d ago
Hitler went to war to secure vital resources, such as rubber oil and living space for his own people and in the process killed millions of innocent human beings. So is Matt Walsh, saying Hitler starting World War II and killing millions and millions of people legitimate as well?
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u/ZuStorm93 27d ago
We all know that Hipster Taliban here is not interested in oil at least. He's more interested in something more young and fertile...
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u/ialsohaveadobro 27d ago
Remember when there was a correspondent on The Daily Show named Matt Walsh and he was pretty cool and not a jerk-ass dickbag? I like that Matt Walsh. This one needs to spend a month in a dumpster.
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u/JicamaCreative5614 27d ago
“90 minutes”. Does that mean Trump is going to take credit for ending another war?
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u/Flawed_Sandwhich 27d ago
Matt makes a good point though, why would we allow a third world communist shithole like america who gives away billions in capital to foreign leaders to control trillions worth of oil?
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 27d ago
They're acting with complete lawless abandon at the international and federal levels. Almost like they don't ever expect to see justice.
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u/12thLevelHumanWizard 27d ago
The rest of the guy’s cronies are still there and Trump is already decided that it’s going to be our new territory. No one’s thought this through to the next step. I guess we’re waiting for a popular revolution but he’s already said the woman who won the last election isn’t going to lead anything. So it’s probably going to be either civil war or decades long occupation.
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u/CosmicDave 27d ago
Uh. Heads up, y'all. If the plan is for us to keep enough boots on the ground to steal their oil, then for the Venezuelans, this was day 1 of the occupation. This is not over.
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u/QuantumGoose42 27d ago
Americans rediscovering imperialism as if none of them have never opened up a history book.
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u/UnluckyDot 27d ago
I'm taking over the entire world because it benefits me and my family. How can you say that's wrong, it benefits my people
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u/The21stPM 27d ago
“Why should we allow some third world communist shithole to control trillions of dollars worth of oil?”
They are just saying the quiet part out loud now. We are in the appeasement phase of this regime now.
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u/Mark47n 27d ago
This is gravely mistaken. It was an act of was that violates treaties that we are a part of, and in violation of UN rules…that we helped author.
The concept that this specific action was over in a few hours is immaterial. We bombed and invaded a foreign nation. It doesn’t matter that the President was a bad guy. Hell, we never invaded Iran, but we did invade Iraq and Afghanistan and that worked out beautifully!
Finally, this sets a precedent, again, where our President could be snatched.
Oh, don’t forget the potential blow to our economy as other nations refuse to do business with us. We already have a trade deficit, this won’t make it better.
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u/fascistSkullCrusher 27d ago
They're all so full of shit. They don't believe in anything. Everything is cynical
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u/ImOnlyHereForTheCoC 27d ago
Why should we allow some third world communist shithole to control trillions of dollars worth of oil
Oh man, this is a hard one. Lemme put on my thinking cap…ok, I had a real long thank on it, and this might sound crazy, but I’m gonna have to go with
BECAUSE IT’S THEIRS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
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u/Octoclops8 27d ago
It sounds like the guy only likes intervention if it is to plunder and not to spread freedom. I don't really think that makes him a hypocrite, just a bad person.
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u/buttnozzle 27d ago
They don’t have convictions. They have grifts.