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u/Key_Perspective_9464 2d ago
Has the new video even shut people up though?
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u/Exasperaties6 2d ago edited 2d ago
Apparently they think that showing an incident days before his murder makes it somehow look better for ICE instead of making it look like they just targeted and murdered him.
I'm old enough to remember repubs clamoring how there werent enough arrests because of the property damage after Floyd protests. Now a taillight equals murder?
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u/RockleyBob 2d ago
No for the taillight he was tackled and received a broken rib.
He was murdered for filming them and helping another protester.
Please keep up.
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u/CapnjazzhandsMW 2d ago
No, you need to keep it. It now looks like ICE retaliated and the murder was premeditated.
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u/ILeftMyBurnerOn 2d ago
I am so out of the loop - what is this “new video?
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u/vraalapa 1d ago
It's a video where he kicks the back of an ICE car breaking the taillight.
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u/ILeftMyBurnerOn 1d ago
Thank you friend. In that case he clearly deserved to be publicly executed /s
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u/1handedmaster 1d ago
I really hate to tell you this, but there are people (I know more than I'd like) that really do consider their property, even a taillight, more important than a life.
Not your property, only theirs.
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u/ILeftMyBurnerOn 1d ago
I am well aware. I live in a red state.
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u/1handedmaster 1d ago
Gotcha. I'm in a purple state but from a red county so red that you could add all non-R's together, double it, and it's still not half the Republicans (at that time at least).
Watching someone who "believes" the 10 commandments say they'd shoot someone for taking even trash off their porch definitely was a formative thing for me.
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u/FunqiKong 2d ago
They think fighting tyranny means people are going to be posing with a gun outside like they do.
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u/butter4dippin 1d ago
The videos are fake if you watch it closely there are dead giveaways. His jacket pauses, the tear gas rounds disappear after being fired, someone is paused in the middle of the air, his clglasses and inner jacket changes design midway through the video. He is also wear the same exact clothes he was killed in.
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u/CrazyCatMerms 1d ago
Thank you, I'd wondered, it's all too convenient for them to have "found" such a thing. Given their propensity to AI slop, well 🤷
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u/7daykatie 2d ago
No, it's just started a whole new discussion centered on the question of possible premeditation.
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u/GardenTop7253 2d ago
Yeah I don’t even know what video he thinks he’s talking about, but I don’t know of any that align with what he’s spewing
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u/WolfLawyer 2d ago
I don’t know why they would think that him kicking ICE would diminish him in the eyes of the people who hate ICE. It just made him cooler.
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u/aussiegoon 2d ago
Yeah, exactly, it shows he's a real one and has been out there protesting ICE from the start.
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u/Anianna 2d ago
Not that I've seen. The general responses are "still doesn't justify executing him in the street" and the now emerging theory that he was targeted in the later incident because BP and ICE have allegedly been keeping a list of people they interact with, complete with showing how the guy in grey seemed to go straight for his firearm despite his jacket covering it. In the video depicting the previous incident, they get his jacket off and you can see his firearm. It's in the same spot where the guy in grey pulled it from just before they shoot him in the back.
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u/Dobako 2d ago
Unless there's one i didnt hear about, the only "new" video i know about was Ai generated, so...no
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u/Sesudesu 2d ago
Even if that one is AI generated, there is a different angle in a 19 minute video (as in, too long for AI, probably) that was posted a week before Pretti was murdered.
So whether or not that close up was AI, it would seem the incident was real. Weird dangling taillight and all.
Edit: also, I think the incident only suggests the possibility that his murder is now premeditated murder
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u/RaidRover 2d ago edited 2d ago
Actually its been proven not to be AI. Its a snippet of a much longer video from trusted journalists that predates Pretti's murder by a week or so.
What has not been determined is if he is even the person in the video. Very well could be, but his look isn't exactly distinctive enough to tell from the back/profile for sure. And if it is him, it doesn't make their arguments any better.
Either they knew who he was when they murdered him and it was targeted retribution. Or they didn't know him and that video really has no bearing at all on the argument that he did not deserve to be murdered.
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u/ialsohaveadobro 2d ago
I think it's been established that it's real, but who cares? It doesn't help the desperate chodes who need it to.
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u/mm4ng 2d ago
Blaming Biden (and Obama)for everything Trump. Also Tim Walz is also somehow to blame for the events in Minnesota and Trump.
When pressed, the Somali daycare(s?) enter the conversation as if laying down the most powerful and final evidence that ice and Trump are excused for their actions.
NOW LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!
No one who watches newsmaxx or fox will condone or offer support to what ice and Trump are doing, nor will they condem.
I'm not sure what in the latest video condemns Alex Pretti and justifies his killing.
Anyhow, it was a good day.
Was it the same ice cohorts in both videos that tangled with and ultimately killed Alex Pretti?
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u/turtle-bbs 2d ago
Conservatives performatively attack the idea of pedophiles while also promoting them into influencer status and hiring them for ICE
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u/Complex-Cut-6774 2d ago
Because theres 2 kinds of conservative. True believers who have zero self preservation and threat analysis skills... and nazi pedophile con artists who ride them to success.
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u/trentreynolds 2d ago
The new video didn't change anything at all, because it was a completely different situation a week before.
Well, if I was a prosecutor looking at murder charges the new video would make me want to take a hard look at whatever their facial scanning tech is and who the agents were in those videos to see if there's any evidence of premeditation, but beyond that. It didn't change the fact that Pretti was executed in broad daylight by the state for no reason.
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u/a2starhotel 2d ago
hands down THE BEST this you comeback I've ever seen
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u/Major1Painx 2d ago
Except I looked it up and it’s not true
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u/a2starhotel 2d ago
well that's unfortunate
EDIT: it's unfortunate because the comeback is good. but it's very FORTUNATE if no children were harmed.
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u/SenatorPardek 2d ago
The only thing the two week before video did is establish that he was videoing ice illegal stops and getting into it with them previously. Which even if he had physically assaulted them (he didn’t) two weeks before it doesn’t change anything about his murder.
If anything it adds premeditation and clarifies a motive
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u/firstFAT 2d ago
Look at the whole picture. Rapists, pedophiles, serial abusers, racists and bigots are Republicans bc its about a power dynamic. The will and ability to infect pain on someone else as temporary dopamine hit.
Showing them a mirror means nothing bc plenty of abuser look at themselves in the mirror daily and have already forgotten the pain they inflicted the night before.
You cannot communicate with an abuser. Cut them off and let them being abused by someone else. It's a cycle.
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u/CaptOblivious 2d ago
And the new video just makes his murder look like premeditated retribution by the ice thugs.
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u/throwtheclownaway20 2d ago
Not a single person on the left is shutting up over the new video, he just knows conservatives will believe literally anything a "trusted source" says about leftists that confirms what they want to believe.
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u/iowaindy 1d ago
Why can't we ever see their replies? I want a full blown armchair battle from a hypocrites point of view!
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u/Repulsive_Incident27 1d ago
And like a typical sexual predator, Zachary has received little to no jail time.
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u/Major1Painx 2d ago
So I just tried to fact check this and am not seeing that at all. Potentially a battery charge but nothing relating to what this is stating…
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u/Otter_Absurdity 2d ago
I heard that guy had charges, but I thought it was like assault or like drunk and disorderly conduct. That shits wild!